Posted by tangplay on 10/10/2017 5:32:00 PM (view original):

Posted by jmcraven74 on 10/10/2017 1:19:00 PM (view original):
For me, it's the fact they are doing anything to protest the the flag and the USA when the acts they are being told to be upset about are not committed by the USA or anyone acting on its behalf.

And it's unhealthy for our nation. Instead of these guys raising funds for defense lawyers or DNA exonerations or even funding a netflix documentary on police brutality in certain cities, they are kneeling. It's a juvenile gesture that promotes an attitude of rebellion against authority. It leads to FIVE OFFICERS GETTING KILLED IN DALLAS, a city where there were no incidents of police shooting black men.

There's a fundamental lack of common sense in this debate. Do people in the USA have the right to protest the flag- yeah, a Conservative, Justice Scalia wrote the opinion that says that its Constitutional to burn the flag in protest, but you really need to step back and ask yourself if what is going on is really helping the situation or is just designed to get people to react emotionally to something they really have very little actual knowledge about.

People are too caught up in this theoretical debate about free speech rights and not looking at what is actually going on when the anthem stops playing.

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We are not saying that anyone supports police brutality and vice versa or that I necessarily support kneeling. The problem is when Donald Trump and Jerry Jones fire players who PEACEFULLY and RESPECTFULLY protest.

Posted by bagchucker on 10/10/2017 6:01:00 PM (view original):
monkeys with a bomb

Posted by strikeout26 on 10/10/2017 6:14:00 PM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 10/10/2017 5:32:00 PM (view original):

Posted by jmcraven74 on 10/10/2017 1:19:00 PM (view original):
For me, it's the fact they are doing anything to protest the the flag and the USA when the acts they are being told to be upset about are not committed by the USA or anyone acting on its behalf.

And it's unhealthy for our nation. Instead of these guys raising funds for defense lawyers or DNA exonerations or even funding a netflix documentary on police brutality in certain cities, they are kneeling. It's a juvenile gesture that promotes an attitude of rebellion against authority. It leads to FIVE OFFICERS GETTING KILLED IN DALLAS, a city where there were no incidents of police shooting black men.

There's a fundamental lack of common sense in this debate. Do people in the USA have the right to protest the flag- yeah, a Conservative, Justice Scalia wrote the opinion that says that its Constitutional to burn the flag in protest, but you really need to step back and ask yourself if what is going on is really helping the situation or is just designed to get people to react emotionally to something they really have very little actual knowledge about.

People are too caught up in this theoretical debate about free speech rights and not looking at what is actually going on when the anthem stops playing.

click $, click $, click $

We are not saying that anyone supports police brutality and vice versa or that I necessarily support kneeling. The problem is when Donald Trump and Jerry Jones fire players who PEACEFULLY and RESPECTFULLY protest.

Jerry Jones has every right. Trump needs to stay the F away from the situation. A president should never comment on who a private company hires or fires.

Posted by jmcraven74 on 10/10/2017 6:10:00 PM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 10/10/2017 5:32:00 PM (view original):

Posted by jmcraven74 on 10/10/2017 1:19:00 PM (view original):
For me, it's the fact they are doing anything to protest the the flag and the USA when the acts they are being told to be upset about are not committed by the USA or anyone acting on its behalf.

And it's unhealthy for our nation. Instead of these guys raising funds for defense lawyers or DNA exonerations or even funding a netflix documentary on police brutality in certain cities, they are kneeling. It's a juvenile gesture that promotes an attitude of rebellion against authority. It leads to FIVE OFFICERS GETTING KILLED IN DALLAS, a city where there were no incidents of police shooting black men.

There's a fundamental lack of common sense in this debate. Do people in the USA have the right to protest the flag- yeah, a Conservative, Justice Scalia wrote the opinion that says that its Constitutional to burn the flag in protest, but you really need to step back and ask yourself if what is going on is really helping the situation or is just designed to get people to react emotionally to something they really have very little actual knowledge about.

People are too caught up in this theoretical debate about free speech rights and not looking at what is actually going on when the anthem stops playing.

click $, click $, click $

We are not saying that anyone supports police brutality and vice versa or that I necessarily support kneeling. The problem is when Donald Trump and Jerry Jones fire players who PEACEFULLY and RESPECTFULLY protest.

Jones is the boss. He makes the rules. Just like the boss that says McDonald's employees wear uniforms instead of America Sucks t-shirts.

America. Where business owners have rights, too.

Posted by jmcraven74 on 10/10/2017 6:10:00 PM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 10/10/2017 5:32:00 PM (view original):

Posted by jmcraven74 on 10/10/2017 1:19:00 PM (view original):
For me, it's the fact they are doing anything to protest the the flag and the USA when the acts they are being told to be upset about are not committed by the USA or anyone acting on its behalf.

And it's unhealthy for our nation. Instead of these guys raising funds for defense lawyers or DNA exonerations or even funding a netflix documentary on police brutality in certain cities, they are kneeling. It's a juvenile gesture that promotes an attitude of rebellion against authority. It leads to FIVE OFFICERS GETTING KILLED IN DALLAS, a city where there were no incidents of police shooting black men.

There's a fundamental lack of common sense in this debate. Do people in the USA have the right to protest the flag- yeah, a Conservative, Justice Scalia wrote the opinion that says that its Constitutional to burn the flag in protest, but you really need to step back and ask yourself if what is going on is really helping the situation or is just designed to get people to react emotionally to something they really have very little actual knowledge about.

People are too caught up in this theoretical debate about free speech rights and not looking at what is actually going on when the anthem stops playing.

click $, click $, click $

We are not saying that anyone supports police brutality and vice versa or that I necessarily support kneeling. The problem is when Donald Trump and Jerry Jones fire players who PEACEFULLY and RESPECTFULLY protest.

Jones is the boss. He makes the rules. Just like the boss that says McDonald's employees wear uniforms instead of America Sucks t-shirts.

America. Where business owners have rights, too.

Posted by strikeout26 on 10/10/2017 9:59:00 PM (view original):
My biggest issue with all of this is that Goodell is a hypocrite. When players wanted to wear a patch honoring the victims of 9/11 he said "no", but he is just now really saying anything about this. Either keep your league completely apolitical or allow both political sides to have a voice.

Posted by Tucker T's on 10/10/2017 11:21:00 PM (view original):

Posted by strikeout26 on 10/10/2017 9:59:00 PM (view original):
My biggest issue with all of this is that Goodell is a hypocrite. When players wanted to wear a patch honoring the victims of 9/11 he said "no", but he is just now really saying anything about this. Either keep your league completely apolitical or allow both political sides to have a voice.

Yes but not on the field of play. Play ball and do anything you want away from the workplace. My opinion......

Posted by strikeout26 on 10/10/2017 11:46:00 PM (view original):

Posted by Tucker T's on 10/10/2017 11:21:00 PM (view original):

Posted by strikeout26 on 10/10/2017 9:59:00 PM (view original):
My biggest issue with all of this is that Goodell is a hypocrite. When players wanted to wear a patch honoring the victims of 9/11 he said "no", but he is just now really saying anything about this. Either keep your league completely apolitical or allow both political sides to have a voice.

Yes but not on the field of play. Play ball and do anything you want away from the workplace. My opinion......

I agree. I'm just saying that if you are going to allow don't pick and choose which issues you allow.