Just curious if any other rating plays a "hidden" factor into free throws? For the past two seasons I feel my UNLV team has under performed in that area despite having good free throw ratings. There is nothing more frustrating then sucking at the line...

I'd guess small sample size.

I doubt it. If there was some kind of hidden experience or clutch rating, maybe, but I don’t think that exists in the game.

When im scouting, I generally think of .667 as C, with every grade increment corresponding to about .033 of a point. So C+ at .700, B- at .733, B at .767, etc. Just a rough guide, because there are gradients within each grade we don’t see (red B+ is a little better than orange B+ for a given player). And obviously, there will be variance based on sample size.

I've felt this way since I first started playing. I had a SUPER weird FT experience right off the bat.

Willie Giancola

C FT Rating

FR: 37/48 = 77.1%
SO: 41/66 = 62.1%
JR: 57/89 = 64.0%
SR: 33/67 = 49.3%

I was baffled by this drop off his SR season. And while the sample size wasn't huge, it wasn't tiny either.
Also, he started his SO and JR seasons averaging 21mpg and 23mpg but then as a SR he came off the bench and avg 17mpg so it didn't seem like a ST issue.

Posted by pkoopman on 10/11/2017 5:21:00 PM (view original):
I doubt it. If there was some kind of hidden experience or clutch rating, maybe, but I don’t think that exists in the game.

When im scouting, I generally think of .667 as C, with every grade increment corresponding to about .033 of a point. So C+ at .700, B- at .733, B at .767, etc. Just a rough guide, because there are gradients within each grade we don’t see (red B+ is a little better than orange B+ for a given player). And obviously, there will be variance based on sample size.

Interesting,I guess I just assumed a little higher for the letter grades....guess Ill have to start tracking it to see

Posted by Benis on 10/11/2017 5:41:00 PM (view original):
I've felt this way since I first started playing. I had a SUPER weird FT experience right off the bat.

Willie Giancola

C FT Rating

FR: 37/48 = 77.1%
SO: 41/66 = 62.1%
JR: 57/89 = 64.0%
SR: 33/67 = 49.3%

I was baffled by this drop off his SR season. And while the sample size wasn't huge, it wasn't tiny either.
Also, he started his SO and JR seasons averaging 21mpg and 23mpg but then as a SR he came off the bench and avg 17mpg so it didn't seem like a ST issue.

Wow, thats a huge drop off...

I thought home court advantage factored into FT's. I could be wrong,

The player's fatigue level at the time the FT's are taken plays a role if I recall correctly. So a B FT shooter over time should shoot a better percentage at Fairly Fresh than that same player would shoot over the long term if Tired.

Posted by rednu on 10/11/2017 7:29:00 PM (view original):
The player's fatigue level at the time the FT's are taken plays a role if I recall correctly. So a B FT shooter over time should shoot a better percentage at Fairly Fresh than that same player would shoot over the long term if Tired.

This. And as TJ mentioned I would think homecourt plays a role and if that's true you'd see bigger home/away variance at D1 than D2 and D3.

A few years ago I recall a similar thread about FTs where a user showed over a couple different seasons the best defensive teams seemed to give up the lowest FT%. I think CS looked into it and swore there wasn't a correlation but whichever user posted data made a pretty compelling argument.

Posted by Benis on 10/11/2017 5:41:00 PM (view original):
I've felt this way since I first started playing. I had a SUPER weird FT experience right off the bat.

Willie Giancola

C FT Rating

FR: 37/48 = 77.1%
SO: 41/66 = 62.1%
JR: 57/89 = 64.0%
SR: 33/67 = 49.3%

I was baffled by this drop off his SR season. And while the sample size wasn't huge, it wasn't tiny either.
Also, he started his SO and JR seasons averaging 21mpg and 23mpg but then as a SR he came off the bench and avg 17mpg so it didn't seem like a ST issue.

Interesting that his big outlier seasons were the two he was coming off the bench.

I didnt think about HCA, that’s totally possible. I’d love to see some data, if anyone is less lazy than me and wants to look into it.

Posted by rednu on 10/11/2017 7:29:00 PM (view original):
The player's fatigue level at the time the FT's are taken plays a role if I recall correctly. So a B FT shooter over time should shoot a better percentage at Fairly Fresh than that same player would shoot over the long term if Tired.

I was just going to say you only can see the stamina bar every 4 minutes, so it's not out of the question, especially if both teams are running uptempo that the same player that was green could be yellow on the stamina bar 2 minutes later and you would have no idea.

Posted by pkoopman on 10/11/2017 5:21:00 PM (view original):
I doubt it. If there was some kind of hidden experience or clutch rating, maybe, but I don’t think that exists in the game.

When im scouting, I generally think of .667 as C, with every grade increment corresponding to about .033 of a point. So C+ at .700, B- at .733, B at .767, etc. Just a rough guide, because there are gradients within each grade we don’t see (red B+ is a little better than orange B+ for a given player). And obviously, there will be variance based on sample size.

Close but FT % to Grades are as follows:

Below 54 = F
54 to 57 = D-
57 to 60 = D
60 to 63 = D+
63 to 66 = C-
66 to 69 = C
69 to 72 = C+
72 to 75 = B-
75 to 78 = B
78 to 81 = B+
81 to 84 = A-
84 to 87 = A
Above 87 = A+

This was observed from hundreds of recruits based on the listed FT% and their assigned FT grades.

Posted by pkoopman on 10/11/2017 7:56:00 PM (view original):

Posted by Benis on 10/11/2017 5:41:00 PM (view original):
I've felt this way since I first started playing. I had a SUPER weird FT experience right off the bat.

Willie Giancola

C FT Rating

FR: 37/48 = 77.1%
SO: 41/66 = 62.1%
JR: 57/89 = 64.0%
SR: 33/67 = 49.3%

I was baffled by this drop off his SR season. And while the sample size wasn't huge, it wasn't tiny either.
Also, he started his SO and JR seasons averaging 21mpg and 23mpg but then as a SR he came off the bench and avg 17mpg so it didn't seem like a ST issue.

Interesting that his big outlier seasons were the two he was coming off the bench.

I didnt think about HCA, that’s totally possible. I’d love to see some data, if anyone is less lazy than me and wants to look into it.

For this past season in Crum (D1 only):

Visiting Teams: 61,913 - 86,724 (71.39%)
Home Teams: 63,060 - 88,413 (71.32%)

Overall: 124,973 - 175,137 (71.36%)

Vanderbilt shot 17.16% higher on the road 78.48% vs 61.33% at home.
Boise State shot 11.99% higher at home 79.44% vs 67.45% on the road.
The data for all teams is listed below if anyone wants to see:

Team	(V) Made	(V) ATT	PCT	(H) Made	(H) ATT	PCT	(Tot) Made	(Tot) ATT	PCT		Variance
New Mexico	332	447	74.27%	210	287	73.17%	542	734	73.84%		1.10%
Michigan State	316	464	68.10%	269	367	73.30%	585	831	70.40%		-5.19%
San Diego State	312	405	77.04%	276	377	73.21%	588	782	75.19%		3.83%
Northwestern	267	375	71.20%	166	208	79.81%	433	583	74.27%		-8.61%
Illinois	256	376	68.09%	128	174	73.56%	384	550	69.82%		-5.48%
Army	229	312	73.40%	224	327	68.50%	453	639	70.89%		4.90%
Denver	254	369	68.83%	252	328	76.83%	506	697	72.60%		-7.99%
Miami (FL)	242	349	69.34%	182	238	76.47%	424	587	72.23%		-7.13%
Santa Clara	256	345	74.20%	146	226	64.60%	402	571	70.40%		9.60%
UConn	288	397	72.54%	179	254	70.47%	467	651	71.74%		2.07%
Texas Tech	251	361	69.53%	248	358	69.27%	499	719	69.40%		0.26%
Louisiana State	241	368	65.49%	169	235	71.91%	410	603	67.99%		-6.43%
Boston College	301	443	67.95%	140	213	65.73%	441	656	67.23%		2.22%
George Washington	149	227	65.64%	218	303	71.95%	367	530	69.25%		-6.31%
Missouri	266	365	72.88%	213	289	73.70%	479	654	73.24%		-0.83%
Pepperdine	272	378	71.96%	169	232	72.84%	441	610	72.30%		-0.89%
Clemson	234	356	65.73%	163	238	68.49%	397	594	66.84%		-2.76%
Tennessee	241	368	65.49%	133	194	68.56%	374	562	66.55%		-3.07%
Providence	298	408	73.04%	230	312	73.72%	528	720	73.33%		-0.68%
Kentucky	292	421	69.36%	181	252	71.83%	473	673	70.28%		-2.47%
Florida A&M	279	397	70.28%	202	280	72.14%	481	677	71.05%		-1.87%
Wake Forest	224	316	70.89%	241	338	71.30%	465	654	71.10%		-0.42%
Northern Arizona	241	317	76.03%	192	275	69.82%	433	592	73.14%		6.21%
Stanford	213	299	71.24%	113	161	70.19%	326	460	70.87%		1.05%
Oklahoma	248	360	68.89%	161	246	65.45%	409	606	67.49%		3.44%
Syracuse	236	330	71.52%	163	256	63.67%	399	586	68.09%		7.84%
Pittsburgh	256	375	68.27%	148	206	71.84%	404	581	69.54%		-3.58%
Loyola (MD)	230	319	72.10%	282	380	74.21%	512	699	73.25%		-2.11%
Dayton	286	394	72.59%	250	337	74.18%	536	731	73.32%		-1.60%
Wisconsin	275	403	68.24%	148	218	67.89%	423	621	68.12%		0.35%
Minnesota	283	391	72.38%	147	215	68.37%	430	606	70.96%		4.01%
Georgia Tech	306	438	69.86%	145	194	74.74%	451	632	71.36%		-4.88%
Ohio State	161	226	71.24%	224	315	71.11%	385	541	71.16%		0.13%
Chattanooga	230	305	75.41%	161	228	70.61%	391	533	73.36%		4.80%
Washington	210	317	66.25%	195	269	72.49%	405	586	69.11%		-6.24%
Iowa	244	327	74.62%	138	191	72.25%	382	518	73.75%		2.37%
Boise State	172	255	67.45%	282	355	79.44%	454	610	74.43%		-11.99%
Oregon	192	277	69.31%	181	255	70.98%	373	532	70.11%		-1.67%
Rutgers	220	308	71.43%	264	365	72.33%	484	673	71.92%		-0.90%
Xavier	128	178	71.91%	174	245	71.02%	302	423	71.39%		0.89%
Arizona	113	144	78.47%	137	201	68.16%	250	345	72.46%		10.31%
South Carolina	274	364	75.27%	304	427	71.19%	578	791	73.07%		4.08%
Penn State	333	458	72.71%	193	263	73.38%	526	721	72.95%		-0.68%
Texas	210	301	69.77%	227	319	71.16%	437	620	70.48%		-1.39%
UCLA	138	208	66.35%	139	191	72.77%	277	399	69.42%		-6.43%
Long Beach State	203	281	72.24%	205	290	70.69%	408	571	71.45%		1.55%
Nebraska	194	260	74.62%	215	287	74.91%	409	547	74.77%		-0.30%
Michigan	233	321	72.59%	180	286	62.94%	413	607	68.04%		9.65%
Hawaii	264	373	70.78%	150	206	72.82%	414	579	71.50%		-2.04%
Campbell	165	211	78.20%	184	255	72.16%	349	466	74.89%		6.04%
Kansas	203	278	73.02%	202	292	69.18%	405	570	71.05%		3.84%
Cincinnati	176	232	75.86%	305	424	71.93%	481	656	73.32%		3.93%
Auburn	289	388	74.48%	178	252	70.63%	467	640	72.97%		3.85%
BYU	185	248	74.60%	150	211	71.09%	335	459	72.98%		3.51%
Princeton	162	223	72.65%	190	283	67.14%	352	506	69.57%		5.51%
Rice	196	277	70.76%	241	330	73.03%	437	607	71.99%		-2.27%
Louisville	161	224	71.88%	170	271	62.73%	331	495	66.87%		9.14%
Morgan State	267	355	75.21%	286	396	72.22%	553	751	73.64%		2.99%
San Francisco	184	258	71.32%	249	329	75.68%	433	587	73.76%		-4.37%
Tennessee Tech	393	525	74.86%	170	229	74.24%	563	754	74.67%		0.62%
Eastern Michigan	151	196	77.04%	173	236	73.31%	324	432	75.00%		3.74%
Mercer	182	266	68.42%	253	352	71.88%	435	618	70.39%		-3.45%
Lafayette	174	250	69.60%	224	320	70.00%	398	570	69.82%		-0.40%
Memphis	172	240	71.67%	257	359	71.59%	429	599	71.62%		0.08%
Northern Illinois University	219	296	73.99%	175	241	72.61%	394	537	73.37%		1.37%
Saint Peter's	217	290	74.83%	231	310	74.52%	448	600	74.67%		0.31%
UC Irvine	199	268	74.25%	216	298	72.48%	415	566	73.32%		1.77%
The Citadel	231	312	74.04%	204	284	71.83%	435	596	72.99%		2.21%
Stony Brook	158	234	67.52%	237	356	66.57%	395	590	66.95%		0.95%
Purdue	164	235	69.79%	159	236	67.37%	323	471	68.58%		2.41%
Oregon State	139	195	71.28%	155	219	70.78%	294	414	71.01%		0.51%
Utah	204	273	74.73%	225	309	72.82%	429	582	73.71%		1.91%
Middle Tenn. State	198	271	73.06%	208	295	70.51%	406	566	71.73%		2.55%
Penn	267	385	69.35%	273	371	73.58%	540	756	71.43%		-4.23%
Weber State	193	273	70.70%	176	240	73.33%	369	513	71.93%		-2.64%
Bradley	221	301	73.42%	208	267	77.90%	429	568	75.53%		-4.48%
Bethune-Cookman	185	238	77.73%	237	321	73.83%	422	559	75.49%		3.90%
Green Bay	251	341	73.61%	227	313	72.52%	478	654	73.09%		1.08%
Toledo	118	148	79.73%	298	382	78.01%	416	530	78.49%		1.72%
New Orleans	208	284	73.24%	168	250	67.20%	376	534	70.41%		6.04%
Southern Illinois	168	241	69.71%	235	327	71.87%	403	568	70.95%		-2.16%
Sacramento State	144	206	69.90%	199	262	75.95%	343	468	73.29%		-6.05%
UNLV	248	360	68.89%	94	135	69.63%	342	495	69.09%		-0.74%
UL-Lafayette	211	284	74.30%	162	240	67.50%	373	524	71.18%		6.80%
Saint Francis of PA	258	337	76.56%	238	328	72.56%	496	665	74.59%		4.00%
Stephen F. Austin	189	247	76.52%	236	337	70.03%	425	584	72.77%		6.49%
Colorado State	206	304	67.76%	258	351	73.50%	464	655	70.84%		-5.74%
American U.	180	239	75.31%	191	262	72.90%	371	501	74.05%		2.41%
North Carolina	172	227	75.77%	185	244	75.82%	357	471	75.80%		-0.05%
Wright State	191	264	72.35%	245	333	73.57%	436	597	73.03%		-1.23%
Arkansas	229	321	71.34%	235	337	69.73%	464	658	70.52%		1.61%
NC State	227	331	68.58%	207	289	71.63%	434	620	70.00%		-3.05%
Alabama	215	300	71.67%	191	260	73.46%	406	560	72.50%		-1.79%
Maryland Eastern Shore	173	216	80.09%	221	299	73.91%	394	515	76.50%		6.18%
Wofford	199	269	73.98%	186	267	69.66%	385	536	71.83%		4.31%
Prairie View A&M	138	189	73.02%	192	278	69.06%	330	467	70.66%		3.95%
SE Missouri State	210	301	69.77%	182	265	68.68%	392	566	69.26%		1.09%
Idaho	151	210	71.90%	190	270	70.37%	341	480	71.04%		1.53%
Centenary	201	284	70.77%	188	255	73.73%	389	539	72.17%		-2.95%
Louisiana Tech	170	218	77.98%	186	255	72.94%	356	473	75.26%		5.04%
Appalachian State	178	254	70.08%	211	300	70.33%	389	554	70.22%		-0.25%
Temple	177	253	69.96%	238	316	75.32%	415	569	72.93%		-5.36%
Charlotte	238	337	70.62%	264	390	67.69%	502	727	69.05%		2.93%
Binghamton	205	266	77.07%	200	265	75.47%	405	531	76.27%		1.60%
Birmingham-Southern	203	271	74.91%	179	261	68.58%	382	532	71.80%		6.33%
Georgia	184	254	72.44%	165	230	71.74%	349	484	72.11%		0.70%
Southern Utah	205	272	75.37%	209	289	72.32%	414	561	73.80%		3.05%
Florida	229	293	78.16%	115	145	79.31%	344	438	78.54%		-1.15%
La Salle	229	301	76.08%	201	276	72.83%	430	577	74.52%		3.25%
Richmond	190	269	70.63%	191	269	71.00%	381	538	70.82%		-0.37%
McNeese State	189	245	77.14%	225	301	74.75%	414	546	75.82%		2.39%
Southern	203	283	71.73%	241	315	76.51%	444	598	74.25%		-4.78%
Texas Christian	244	361	67.59%	191	267	71.54%	435	628	69.27%		-3.95%
UTEP	258	348	74.14%	161	235	68.51%	419	583	71.87%		5.63%
North Texas	191	258	74.03%	215	286	75.17%	406	544	74.63%		-1.14%
Portland	169	240	70.42%	226	291	77.66%	395	531	74.39%		-7.25%
Marist	191	287	66.55%	234	346	67.63%	425	633	67.14%		-1.08%
Western Kentucky	181	255	70.98%	191	288	66.32%	372	543	68.51%		4.66%
Air Force	137	189	72.49%	210	295	71.19%	347	484	71.69%		1.30%
Oral Roberts	240	343	69.97%	235	322	72.98%	475	665	71.43%		-3.01%
Cal Poly SLO	201	290	69.31%	219	305	71.80%	420	595	70.59%		-2.49%
Maryland	155	215	72.09%	147	214	68.69%	302	429	70.40%		3.40%
Bucknell	180	235	76.60%	170	223	76.23%	350	458	76.42%		0.36%
Wichita State	140	194	72.16%	256	368	69.57%	396	562	70.46%		2.60%
High Point	202	288	70.14%	249	345	72.17%	451	633	71.25%		-2.04%
St. John's	166	239	69.46%	148	231	64.07%	314	470	66.81%		5.39%
Wyoming	171	236	72.46%	134	179	74.86%	305	415	73.49%		-2.40%
Georgia Southern	195	281	69.40%	196	291	67.35%	391	572	68.36%		2.04%
Detroit Mercy	149	208	71.63%	167	259	64.48%	316	467	67.67%		7.16%
Holy Cross	197	279	70.61%	213	311	68.49%	410	590	69.49%		2.12%
Duquesne	165	216	76.39%	210	289	72.66%	375	505	74.26%		3.72%
UMKC	212	292	72.60%	223	329	67.78%	435	621	70.05%		4.82%
TX State-San Marcos	204	304	67.11%	192	268	71.64%	396	572	69.23%		-4.54%
Canisius	169	232	72.84%	164	239	68.62%	333	471	70.70%		4.23%
Saint Francis of NY	198	265	74.72%	216	289	74.74%	414	554	74.73%		-0.02%
Howard	241	308	78.25%	201	258	77.91%	442	566	78.09%		0.34%
Siena	198	273	72.53%	209	291	71.82%	407	564	72.16%		0.71%
Washington State	147	202	72.77%	171	249	68.67%	318	451	70.51%		4.10%
Bowling Green	126	170	74.12%	260	332	78.31%	386	502	76.89%		-4.20%
Southern Mississippi	121	186	65.05%	230	329	69.91%	351	515	68.16%		-4.86%
Western Michigan	155	217	71.43%	164	255	64.31%	319	472	67.58%		7.11%
Loyola Marymount	172	239	71.97%	224	295	75.93%	396	534	74.16%		-3.97%
C. Connecticut State	196	295	66.44%	213	298	71.48%	409	593	68.97%		-5.04%
Columbia	165	237	69.62%	189	258	73.26%	354	495	71.52%		-3.64%
UAB	211	313	67.41%	223	331	67.37%	434	644	67.39%		0.04%
Texas Southern	144	227	63.44%	180	261	68.97%	324	488	66.39%		-5.53%
Vermont	133	188	70.74%	235	322	72.98%	368	510	72.16%		-2.24%
Fresno State	159	222	71.62%	208	308	67.53%	367	530	69.25%		4.09%
Pacific	154	226	68.14%	180	263	68.44%	334	489	68.30%		-0.30%
Central Michigan	164	238	68.91%	184	244	75.41%	348	482	72.20%		-6.50%
East Tennessee State	224	314	71.34%	198	284	69.72%	422	598	70.57%		1.62%
UMass	204	278	73.38%	216	301	71.76%	420	579	72.54%		1.62%
Kansas State	150	203	73.89%	189	252	75.00%	339	455	74.51%		-1.11%
Eastern Washington	167	239	69.87%	209	284	73.59%	376	523	71.89%		-3.72%
Houston	129	191	67.54%	173	242	71.49%	302	433	69.75%		-3.95%
Albany	158	222	71.17%	188	278	67.63%	346	500	69.20%		3.55%
IUPUI	209	293	71.33%	242	325	74.46%	451	618	72.98%		-3.13%
Indiana	228	313	72.84%	206	278	74.10%	434	591	73.43%		-1.26%
Northwestern State	215	295	72.88%	221	312	70.83%	436	607	71.83%		2.05%
Southern Methodist	238	322	73.91%	196	266	73.68%	434	588	73.81%		0.23%
Morris Brown	213	291	73.20%	222	307	72.31%	435	598	72.74%		0.88%
San Diego	142	200	71.00%	192	247	77.73%	334	447	74.72%		-6.73%
Grambling State	146	195	74.87%	163	221	73.76%	309	416	74.28%		1.12%
Southeastern Louisiana	219	315	69.52%	219	335	65.37%	438	650	67.38%		4.15%
Murray State	251	324	77.47%	212	294	72.11%	463	618	74.92%		5.36%
Fordham	202	272	74.26%	199	276	72.10%	401	548	73.18%		2.16%
Florida Atlantic	244	331	73.72%	222	311	71.38%	466	642	72.59%		2.33%
Northeastern	204	297	68.69%	197	286	68.88%	401	583	68.78%		-0.19%
Charleston	204	281	72.60%	207	297	69.70%	411	578	71.11%		2.90%
Eastern Illinois	267	371	71.97%	300	413	72.64%	567	784	72.32%		-0.67%
Jackson State	162	267	60.67%	188	280	67.14%	350	547	63.99%		-6.47%
UC Santa Barbara	192	246	78.05%	182	257	70.82%	374	503	74.35%		7.23%
Brown	198	262	75.57%	201	278	72.30%	399	540	73.89%		3.27%
Cal State Northridge	200	292	68.49%	163	237	68.78%	363	529	68.62%		-0.28%
Kent State	215	271	79.34%	216	287	75.26%	431	558	77.24%		4.07%
Iowa State	155	200	77.50%	188	269	69.89%	343	469	73.13%		7.61%
Northern Iowa	154	200	77.00%	209	270	77.41%	363	470	77.23%		-0.41%
Old Dominion	200	280	71.43%	230	312	73.72%	430	592	72.64%		-2.29%
New Hampshire	131	202	64.85%	183	270	67.78%	314	472	66.53%		-2.93%
IPFW	156	239	65.27%	211	299	70.57%	367	538	68.22%		-5.30%
Illinois State	183	244	75.00%	203	297	68.35%	386	541	71.35%		6.65%
Colorado	179	263	68.06%	200	281	71.17%	379	544	69.67%		-3.11%
Portland State	200	283	70.67%	216	316	68.35%	416	599	69.45%		2.32%
Mississippi State	172	256	67.19%	238	340	70.00%	410	596	68.79%		-2.81%
Navy	204	301	67.77%	245	352	69.60%	449	653	68.76%		-1.83%
Alabama A&M	211	295	71.53%	178	252	70.63%	389	547	71.12%		0.89%
St. Joseph's	158	227	69.60%	190	262	72.52%	348	489	71.17%		-2.92%
Montana State	197	270	72.96%	186	278	66.91%	383	548	69.89%		6.06%
Cal	158	233	67.81%	172	237	72.57%	330	470	70.21%		-4.76%
Arkansas State	177	255	69.41%	269	364	73.90%	446	619	72.05%		-4.49%
Texas A&M, CC	307	442	69.46%	171	273	62.64%	478	715	66.85%		6.82%
Hampton	165	234	70.51%	212	279	75.99%	377	513	73.49%		-5.47%
Utah State	141	206	68.45%	180	244	73.77%	321	450	71.33%		-5.32%
Nevada	183	260	70.38%	163	224	72.77%	346	484	71.49%		-2.38%
Tulsa	163	222	73.42%	247	346	71.39%	410	568	72.18%		2.04%
Elon	227	309	73.46%	214	303	70.63%	441	612	72.06%		2.84%
Missouri State	208	301	69.10%	202	284	71.13%	410	585	70.09%		-2.02%
Idaho State	168	247	68.02%	214	277	77.26%	382	524	72.90%		-9.24%
Morehead State	256	348	73.56%	231	329	70.21%	487	677	71.94%		3.35%
Iona	215	308	69.81%	219	315	69.52%	434	623	69.66%		0.28%
UNC Asheville	148	196	75.51%	190	266	71.43%	338	462	73.16%		4.08%
Drake	201	276	72.83%	190	273	69.60%	391	549	71.22%		3.23%
Towson	208	273	76.19%	198	280	70.71%	406	553	73.42%		5.48%
Cornell	150	216	69.44%	205	292	70.21%	355	508	69.88%		-0.76%
UL-Monroe	237	335	70.75%	134	188	71.28%	371	523	70.94%		-0.53%
Boston U.	160	229	69.87%	172	237	72.57%	332	466	71.24%		-2.70%
Lipscomb	167	238	70.17%	213	278	76.62%	380	516	73.64%		-6.45%
Delaware State	193	282	68.44%	236	341	69.21%	429	623	68.86%		-0.77%
Troy	163	217	75.12%	174	251	69.32%	337	468	72.01%		5.79%
Stetson	186	266	69.92%	225	312	72.12%	411	578	71.11%		-2.19%
Oklahoma State	144	202	71.29%	218	289	75.43%	362	491	73.73%		-4.15%
Milwaukee	126	175	72.00%	208	292	71.23%	334	467	71.52%		0.77%
Coppin State	185	248	74.60%	254	329	77.20%	439	577	76.08%		-2.61%
Seton Hall	198	290	68.28%	252	355	70.99%	450	645	69.77%		-2.71%
South Alabama	187	237	78.90%	233	311	74.92%	420	548	76.64%		3.98%
Texas, San Antonio	184	252	73.02%	214	276	77.54%	398	528	75.38%		-4.52%
Alcorn State	164	227	72.25%	177	249	71.08%	341	476	71.64%		1.16%
North Carolina A&T	209	288	72.57%	200	309	64.72%	409	597	68.51%		7.84%
Hartford	159	246	64.63%	120	180	66.67%	279	426	65.49%		-2.03%
Marquette	143	199	71.86%	173	232	74.57%	316	431	73.32%		-2.71%
Mount St. Mary's	159	226	70.35%	183	242	75.62%	342	468	73.08%		-5.27%
Saint Louis	143	206	69.42%	166	242	68.60%	309	448	68.97%		0.82%
Tulane	159	233	68.24%	211	295	71.53%	370	528	70.08%		-3.29%
Western Carolina	148	209	70.81%	208	292	71.23%	356	501	71.06%		-0.42%
South Florida	184	265	69.43%	135	205	65.85%	319	470	67.87%		3.58%
Alabama State	200	265	75.47%	190	263	72.24%	390	528	73.86%		3.23%
Cal State Fullerton	207	309	66.99%	186	254	73.23%	393	563	69.80%		-6.24%
Georgetown	152	223	68.16%	196	289	67.82%	348	512	67.97%		0.34%
Robert Morris	174	240	72.50%	193	257	75.10%	367	497	73.84%		-2.60%
Arizona State	181	238	76.05%	165	210	78.57%	346	448	77.23%		-2.52%
Dartmouth	170	232	73.28%	185	254	72.83%	355	486	73.05%		0.44%
Akron	208	294	70.75%	165	258	63.95%	373	552	67.57%		6.79%
Butler	181	266	68.05%	205	281	72.95%	386	547	70.57%		-4.91%
Lehigh	164	228	71.93%	162	229	70.74%	326	457	71.33%		1.19%
Gardner-Webb	169	251	67.33%	162	239	67.78%	331	490	67.55%		-0.45%
UMBC	199	273	72.89%	189	270	70.00%	388	543	71.45%		2.89%
UNC Greensboro	149	205	72.68%	210	299	70.23%	359	504	71.23%		2.45%
Quinnipiac	199	256	77.73%	202	282	71.63%	401	538	74.54%		6.10%
VMI	204	299	68.23%	238	319	74.61%	442	618	71.52%		-6.38%
Oakland	198	278	71.22%	210	277	75.81%	408	555	73.51%		-4.59%
Ohio	168	234	71.79%	200	258	77.52%	368	492	74.80%		-5.72%
Charleston Southern	160	233	68.67%	180	259	69.50%	340	492	69.11%		-0.83%
Gonzaga	175	243	72.02%	188	260	72.31%	363	503	72.17%		-0.29%
Central Florida	187	255	73.33%	210	277	75.81%	397	532	74.62%		-2.48%
George Mason	221	337	65.58%	180	271	66.42%	401	608	65.95%		-0.84%
William & Mary	184	282	65.25%	197	266	74.06%	381	548	69.53%		-8.81%
Liberty	161	244	65.98%	203	275	73.82%	364	519	70.13%		-7.83%
Duke	148	205	72.20%	156	241	64.73%	304	446	68.16%		7.46%
Hofstra	144	209	68.90%	184	266	69.17%	328	475	69.05%		-0.27%
Ball State	146	214	68.22%	168	254	66.14%	314	468	67.09%		2.08%
Colgate	157	214	73.36%	155	206	75.24%	312	420	74.29%		-1.88%
Virginia	236	335	70.45%	109	158	68.99%	345	493	69.98%		1.46%
Baylor	130	190	68.42%	172	272	63.24%	302	462	65.37%		5.19%
Florida State	126	177	71.19%	187	252	74.21%	313	429	72.96%		-3.02%
Texas A&M	171	231	74.03%	203	293	69.28%	374	524	71.37%		4.74%
Georgia State	187	259	72.20%	190	277	68.59%	377	536	70.34%		3.61%
Notre Dame	134	191	70.16%	158	220	71.82%	292	411	71.05%		-1.66%
Norfolk State	193	267	72.28%	168	248	67.74%	361	515	70.10%		4.54%
Niagara	183	255	71.76%	218	309	70.55%	401	564	71.10%		1.21%
DePaul	187	243	76.95%	174	244	71.31%	361	487	74.13%		5.64%
Texas-Arlington	188	259	72.59%	179	269	66.54%	367	528	69.51%		6.04%
Sam Houston State	219	313	69.97%	134	184	72.83%	353	497	71.03%		-2.86%
Virginia Tech	201	275	73.09%	195	278	70.14%	396	553	71.61%		2.95%
Furman	158	224	70.54%	230	313	73.48%	388	537	72.25%		-2.95%
New Mexico State	181	225	80.44%	155	215	72.09%	336	440	76.36%		8.35%
Illinois-Chicago	211	283	74.56%	214	300	71.33%	425	583	72.90%		3.22%
VCU	183	250	73.20%	196	279	70.25%	379	529	71.64%		2.95%
Yale	160	210	76.19%	190	263	72.24%	350	473	74.00%		3.95%
Belmont	152	209	72.73%	179	248	72.18%	331	457	72.43%		0.55%
Loyola Chicago	165	219	75.34%	176	253	69.57%	341	472	72.25%		5.78%
West Virginia	129	199	64.82%	193	280	68.93%	322	479	67.22%		-4.10%
East Carolina	190	272	69.85%	183	277	66.06%	373	549	67.94%		3.79%
Harvard	175	250	70.00%	179	233	76.82%	354	483	73.29%		-6.82%
San Jose State	163	243	67.08%	272	380	71.58%	435	623	69.82%		-4.50%
Radford	135	184	73.37%	149	212	70.28%	284	396	71.72%		3.09%
Youngstown State	162	245	66.12%	136	189	71.96%	298	434	68.66%		-5.84%
Mississippi Valley St.	233	329	70.82%	229	324	70.68%	462	653	70.75%		0.14%
UC Riverside	183	268	68.28%	195	284	68.66%	378	552	68.48%		-0.38%
Villanova	148	210	70.48%	120	174	68.97%	268	384	69.79%		1.51%
Long Island	157	217	72.35%	148	205	72.20%	305	422	72.27%		0.16%
Chicago State	132	193	68.39%	161	230	70.00%	293	423	69.27%		-1.61%
Tennessee Martin	202	287	70.38%	202	283	71.38%	404	570	70.88%		-0.99%
Rider	194	280	69.29%	167	240	69.58%	361	520	69.42%		-0.30%
UNC Wilmington	170	266	63.91%	176	265	66.42%	346	531	65.16%		-2.51%
Valparaiso	142	218	65.14%	172	265	64.91%	314	483	65.01%		0.23%
Wagner	173	245	70.61%	188	255	73.73%	361	500	72.20%		-3.11%
St. Bonaventure	165	208	79.33%	164	223	73.54%	329	431	76.33%		5.78%
Tennessee State	172	241	71.37%	215	292	73.63%	387	533	72.61%		-2.26%
Maine	149	222	67.12%	178	266	66.92%	327	488	67.01%		0.20%
South Carolina State	170	247	68.83%	172	226	76.11%	342	473	72.30%		-7.28%
Davidson	163	255	63.92%	184	272	67.65%	347	527	65.84%		-3.73%
Montana	148	199	74.37%	149	220	67.73%	297	419	70.88%		6.64%
Rhode Island	177	250	70.80%	205	277	74.01%	382	527	72.49%		-3.21%
Austin Peay	119	193	61.66%	205	303	67.66%	324	496	65.32%		-6.00%
Vanderbilt	124	158	78.48%	111	181	61.33%	235	339	69.32%		17.16%
Monmouth	182	238	76.47%	194	251	77.29%	376	489	76.89%		-0.82%
Mississippi	160	225	71.11%	140	214	65.42%	300	439	68.34%		5.69%
James Madison	174	236	73.73%	249	356	69.94%	423	592	71.45%		3.78%
Marshall	136	209	65.07%	168	241	69.71%	304	450	67.56%		-4.64%
Southern Cal	123	184	66.85%	104	144	72.22%	227	328	69.21%		-5.37%
Miami (OH)	149	209	71.29%	168	221	76.02%	317	430	73.72%		-4.73%
Cleveland State	162	219	73.97%	186	254	73.23%	348	473	73.57%		0.74%
Eastern Kentucky	137	189	72.49%	157	210	74.76%	294	399	73.68%		-2.28%
Drexel	150	221	67.87%	192	259	74.13%	342	480	71.25%		-6.26%
Creighton	204	257	79.38%	173	246	70.33%	377	503	74.95%		9.05%
Fairfield	141	202	69.80%	156	245	63.67%	297	447	66.44%		6.13%
Jacksonville State	209	287	72.82%	159	228	69.74%	368	515	71.46%		3.09%
Evansville	168	256	65.63%	173	244	70.90%	341	500	68.20%		-5.28%
Nicholls State	188	267	70.41%	152	226	67.26%	340	493	68.97%		3.16%
Manhattan	194	270	71.85%	167	242	69.01%	361	512	70.51%		2.84%
Florida Int.	125	201	62.19%	207	288	71.88%	332	489	67.89%		-9.69%
Arkansas, Little Rock	205	286	71.68%	192	271	70.85%	397	557	71.27%		0.83%
Indiana State	157	233	67.38%	156	224	69.64%	313	457	68.49%		-2.26%
Arkansas Pine Bluff	154	220	70.00%	211	303	69.64%	365	523	69.79%		0.36%
Buffalo	161	220	73.18%	185	254	72.83%	346	474	73.00%		0.35%
Jacksonville	124	183	67.76%	183	258	70.93%	307	441	69.61%		-3.17%
Western Illinois	122	181	67.40%	116	163	71.17%	238	344	69.19%		-3.76%
Winthrop	134	197	68.02%	147	211	69.67%	281	408	68.87%		-1.65%
Sacred Heart	151	198	76.26%	140	208	67.31%	291	406	71.67%		8.95%
Delaware	173	268	64.55%	190	269	70.63%	363	537	67.60%		-6.08%
Samford	155	227	68.28%	175	228	76.75%	330	455	72.53%		-8.47%
Lamar	199	279	71.33%	150	202	74.26%	349	481	72.56%		-2.93%
Fairleigh Dickinson	170	234	72.65%	176	270	65.19%	346	504	68.65%		7.46%
Coastal Carolina	170	233	72.96%	170	244	69.67%	340	477	71.28%		3.29%
TOTALS	61913	86724	71.39%	63060	88413	71.32%	124973	175137	71.36%

Posted by rednu on 10/11/2017 7:29:00 PM (view original):
The player's fatigue level at the time the FT's are taken plays a role if I recall correctly. So a B FT shooter over time should shoot a better percentage at Fairly Fresh than that same player would shoot over the long term if Tired.

I was about to also point this out.

Posted by wvufan76 on 10/12/2017 7:30:00 AM (view original):

Posted by rednu on 10/11/2017 7:29:00 PM (view original):
The player's fatigue level at the time the FT's are taken plays a role if I recall correctly. So a B FT shooter over time should shoot a better percentage at Fairly Fresh than that same player would shoot over the long term if Tired.

I was about to also point this out.

Yeah this makes sense to me. And I haven't really tracked it very much. But the example I posted above makes even less sense if that's the case since he was playing fewer minutes and was coming off the bench. He should have been pretty fresh.

Maybe you could look at FT rating and ST and see if there is some correlation. Or FT % on teams that run FB/Press vs Zone.