HC press/3-2 zone Exploit Topic

So I haven't seen this before. Why not learn about it in the forums?

Gameplanning against a hc press/3-2 zone defense. The majority of his team plays zone with a C or C- IQ... new for them this season, I'd say.

What are the big keys y'all would focus on to exploit these kids' IQs?
10/16/2017 6:19 PM
Play a sf with good ath and look. Load up the distribution
10/16/2017 6:44 PM
I used to run this defense and agree with Trenton, athletic sf's that could score from the post or perimeter were difficult to contain. I think one of your bigs should also be able to score. I know they are rare, but speedy pf's can also do well....I say speedy, but I mean speed relative to their position.
10/16/2017 6:50 PM
I definitely took the advice (the boxscore doesn't reflect that)... I expected to be outmatched but only lost by 7 with abysmal shooting. Great advice, thanks!

Boxscore
10/17/2017 2:13 AM
Visconti and Thorton were good distro ideas. I probably would have played Vandenbergh at the 3 from purely an offensive position.
10/17/2017 6:47 AM
Also, notice that the defense was 'Half-Court Press/2-3 Zone' rather than 'Half-Court Press/3-2 Zone' which contributed to your low shooting percentage inside the Arc. Good game, craigaltonw.
10/17/2017 9:35 AM
Posted by dacamel14 on 10/17/2017 9:35:00 AM (view original):
Also, notice that the defense was 'Half-Court Press/2-3 Zone' rather than 'Half-Court Press/3-2 Zone' which contributed to your low shooting percentage inside the Arc. Good game, craigaltonw.
Damn you!... haha, changing up your D when read my post. Lol
10/17/2017 10:03 AM
Posted by craigaltonw on 10/17/2017 10:03:00 AM (view original):
Posted by dacamel14 on 10/17/2017 9:35:00 AM (view original):
Also, notice that the defense was 'Half-Court Press/2-3 Zone' rather than 'Half-Court Press/3-2 Zone' which contributed to your low shooting percentage inside the Arc. Good game, craigaltonw.
Damn you!... haha, changing up your D when read my post. Lol
Actually, no. I changed to 2-3 because you do not really have any outside shooting threats on your squad :)
10/17/2017 10:06 AM
Posted by Trentonjoe on 10/17/2017 6:47:00 AM (view original):
Visconti and Thorton were good distro ideas. I probably would have played Vandenbergh at the 3 from purely an offensive position.
Vandenbergh was at the 3 off the bench, and the 4. I thought Fuller at 3 was a good idea because of his speed and high scoring throughout the season... but blah.

Distro was 22 for Vandy and Fuller. 10 for Visconti and 12 for Thornton, everyone else on the team lower than that... so idk
10/17/2017 10:08 AM
You know you can have a different distro for 3/2 and 2/3, right?! Prep ahead for the rematch!
10/19/2017 9:39 AM
Posted by stewdog on 10/19/2017 9:39:00 AM (view original):
You know you can have a different distro for 3/2 and 2/3, right?! Prep ahead for the rematch!
So, facing a zone D. I don't understand it yet. Zone is weak against perimeter shooting?... so, if your team sucks at perimeter shooting, what do you do against the zone?

If they play 3-2, jack up distro to your SF... I took this advice, but why? Why is the SF left unguarded in a 3-2?

If they play 2-3, that disrupts your inside scoring game? Somebody teach me.
10/21/2017 2:41 PM
Posted by craigaltonw on 10/21/2017 2:41:00 PM (view original):
Posted by stewdog on 10/19/2017 9:39:00 AM (view original):
You know you can have a different distro for 3/2 and 2/3, right?! Prep ahead for the rematch!
So, facing a zone D. I don't understand it yet. Zone is weak against perimeter shooting?... so, if your team sucks at perimeter shooting, what do you do against the zone?

If they play 3-2, jack up distro to your SF... I took this advice, but why? Why is the SF left unguarded in a 3-2?

If they play 2-3, that disrupts your inside scoring game? Somebody teach me.
The Zone defense (X -Y) has X defenders focus guarding the perimeter shots and Y defenders focusing on the inside ones.

So 3-2 is more focused/used against teams which will take outside/3s while 2-3 will try to contain those who mostly come into the paint.

If your team doesn't have any outside (PER) scoring, then expect them to play 2-3, and if your team mostly jack 3s, then expect them to play 3-2.

Sometime coaches who play zone while also positioning their defense opposite of the focus (ex. playing 2-3 but setting their positioning to +2) to hedge their bets.

When constructing your game plan, you *should* prepare for the coach to play either defense alignment (i.e set up game plan to play vs 2-3 and another to play vs. 3-2) else you might have some old distro which doesn't align with your intended game plan.
10/21/2017 2:53 PM (edited)
Thank you Buddha... I like the idea of 2 different distro plans for each possibility.

So when you're planning against a Coach's 2-3, you'll give extra distro to outside shooters? And the opposite against a 3-2? Why is the SF important offensively against a 3-2?
10/21/2017 3:38 PM
Posted by craigaltonw on 10/21/2017 3:38:00 PM (view original):
Thank you Buddha... I like the idea of 2 different distro plans for each possibility.

So when you're planning against a Coach's 2-3, you'll give extra distro to outside shooters? And the opposite against a 3-2? Why is the SF important offensively against a 3-2?
In a 3-2 the SF is covered by the average of the PG-SG-SF. Those teams tend to have lower ATH and BLK scores so an ATH/LP based SF will be successful.

In a 2-3, the SF is covered by the average score of the SF-PF. Those combos tend to be slower so SPD/PER scores will be successful.
10/21/2017 8:40 PM
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