UFO probably doesn’t remember this but I remember when the all3 said that people and their businesses should be allowed to restrict serving people and discriminate legally for religion or race.

come on guys.
arent you smart enough to understand someone from the racist part of the country.

do you think he is different because he doesn’t curse and seems polite and plays wis.

it seems kinda pathetic to me.

just sayin.

Posted by dino27 on 8/16/2020 10:47:00 PM (view original):
UFO probably doesn’t remember this but I remember when the all3 said that people and their businesses should be allowed to restrict serving people and discriminate legally for religion or race.

come on guys.
arent you smart enough to understand someone from the racist part of the country.

do you think he is different because he doesn’t curse and seems polite and plays wis.

it seems kinda pathetic to me.

just sayin.

You're right to a degree, but that he was pulled to this point is still unbelievable. Cults, man.

Posted by all3 on 8/16/2020 10:14:00 PM (view original):

Posted by wylie715 on 8/16/2020 9:13:00 PM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 8/16/2020 1:45:00 PM (view original):
I never said that he wants you or I killed. I said that he would prefer we be killed at worst and discriminated against at best rather than vote for AOC.

don't get me wrong, I am not defending him on this one at all. I find it hard to believe any rational, somewhat intelligent human being (and I do think all3 is somewhat intelligent) can say they would vote for David Duke over AOC because some democrats have (what he considers) somewhat radical ideas (which would probably never get passed by both the senate and the house anyway).

"Some" Democrat extremists wouldn't scare me. Thing is, I don't think it's just "some" any more. People like coreander (see his AOC thread) are flocking to AOC and her Crew. If that doesn't scare you, for the ENTIRE Country, it should.
The though of Duke even being a candidate for POTUS sickens me as much as it does any of you, but he, or any other ___ist (race, sex, whatever) would only ruin part of the Country, while (I feel) AOC and/or the like would ruin everyone.
You may not understand that line of thinking, or agree with it, but that's OK. I think we all (well, except coreander) agree we hope to never get anywhere even close to that point.

There are very fine people on both sides...

Posted by Uofa2 on 8/16/2020 11:53:00 PM (view original):

Posted by dino27 on 8/16/2020 10:47:00 PM (view original):
UFO probably doesn’t remember this but I remember when the all3 said that people and their businesses should be allowed to restrict serving people and discriminate legally for religion or race.

come on guys.
arent you smart enough to understand someone from the racist part of the country.

do you think he is different because he doesn’t curse and seems polite and plays wis.

it seems kinda pathetic to me.

just sayin.

You're right to a degree, but that he was pulled to this point is still unbelievable. Cults, man.

To a degree?
pulled?
he was a George wallace strom Thurmond dem before he became a republican.

im completely right.

you guys need new prescriptions.

Posted by Uofa2 on 8/16/2020 11:53:00 PM (view original):

Posted by dino27 on 8/16/2020 10:47:00 PM (view original):
UFO probably doesn’t remember this but I remember when the all3 said that people and their businesses should be allowed to restrict serving people and discriminate legally for religion or race.

come on guys.
arent you smart enough to understand someone from the racist part of the country.

do you think he is different because he doesn’t curse and seems polite and plays wis.

it seems kinda pathetic to me.

just sayin.

You're right to a degree, but that he was pulled to this point is still unbelievable. Cults, man.

I still believe any private business should have the right to serve whoever they want, just as any customer has the right to totally disregard that business if they do. "Funny" how people who don't want to be told what to do have no problem telling others what they should do.

PS, Uofa obviously lied when he said he "wanted nothing to do with me". Still hanging on my every word. Still scary, and not a surprise.

Posted by dahsdebater on 8/14/2020 4:28:00 PM (view original):

Posted by The Taint on 8/14/2020 1:43:00 PM (view original):

Posted by all3 on 8/14/2020 10:41:00 AM (view original):
Since I'm only guessing at what exactly you mean by that, I will say these things.
The USPS has been horribly run for decades (I'm friends with 3 people who have each worked there for 20+ years each). It is long overdue for a HUGE overhaul. Had they been doing the job efficiently, at a reasonable price, we wouldn't have seen all these companies like UPS, FED EX, DHL, etc. come to be.
I hate how Trump is mixing their funding with mail-in votes though. That said, there are a ton of people who vote by mail who are perfectly capable of going to the polls, so I do think it should be a bit more difficult to apply to vote by mail, as it certainly is easier to have fraud that way (for either Party). For example, I am collecting my neighbors' mail this week while they are away. The husband works from home, with flexible hours, the wife is back in school and working PT, and the 20 year old daughter does nothing. They got their mail-in ballots delivered yesterday, although all of them could easily go to the polls. What's keeping me from filling-out their ballots and returning them?
Hope that addresses what you were asking. You may begin criticising now.

They would get sent back because the signature doesn't match. Not to mention, they would wonder where their ballots got to..why they didn't get to them and eventually could probably remember that you were checking their mail for them. Ballots are easily tracked.

In most states, at least, vote by mail ballots are centralized. They generally don't even have access to the statewide pool of signatures, and it's a virtual guarantee that nobody is checking them.

I tend to agree with my fellow conservatives on this one. Living in Virginia, for the first time in my life, I've been required to present my ID when I show up to vote, and this feels much more appropriate to me. My primary concerns are not far-fetched things like mail fraud, however. What concerns me the most is the lack of a mechanism in most states to automatically clean up voter rolls. Most voters - myself included - are not rigorously fastidious about cleaning up after ourselves in this particular area. I last lived in Pennsylvania, honestly, in 2006, but I voted in PA until summer 2010 when I moved to California. After the 2018 election my dad happened to mention to my brother - who lives in Arizona since 2013 - and me that we were still on the registration list at my parents' polling place in Pennsylvania. In Pennsylvania, you just need to sign the paper to vote. And they provide the reference signature. It's not held by the election officials to cross-reference, it's right on the paper next to where you sign. So all anybody would have needed to vote as me in Pennsylvania in every election from 2010 through 2018 was the knowledge that I wouldn't be there and a willingness to copy my signature. It seems like states could use state and Federal tax databases to notice that I was no longer paying taxes in Pennsylvania and at least send me a letter asking if I still resided and voted at that polling place. Most people are registered to vote by the DMV (EDIT: really at the DMV, but that's at least where they get the paperwork), but they also don't use DMV records to remove voters. The PA DMV knew I had cancelled my PA license for a CA license. But nobody took me off the voter roll until I requested paperwork to do so, filled it out by hand, and sent it back to them. Eight years after I left.

At least this experience gave me a heads up to clean up my California registration. I was registered to vote by mail in CA. That means that in the 2018 election, and any intervening local elections from summer 2017 until that point, whoever moved into my former house received a valid ballot with my name on it. All they had to do was fill it in and send it back, and it could be counted. At least California is actually one of the states that does scrupulously check signatures on vote-by-mail ballots.

I've had a Washington state ballot returned because of signature not matching. So take that for what it's worth. I'm a scribbler.

Posted by all3 on 8/16/2020 10:14:00 PM (view original):

Posted by wylie715 on 8/16/2020 9:13:00 PM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 8/16/2020 1:45:00 PM (view original):
I never said that he wants you or I killed. I said that he would prefer we be killed at worst and discriminated against at best rather than vote for AOC.

don't get me wrong, I am not defending him on this one at all. I find it hard to believe any rational, somewhat intelligent human being (and I do think all3 is somewhat intelligent) can say they would vote for David Duke over AOC because some democrats have (what he considers) somewhat radical ideas (which would probably never get passed by both the senate and the house anyway).

"Some" Democrat extremists wouldn't scare me. Thing is, I don't think it's just "some" any more. People like coreander (see his AOC thread) are flocking to AOC and her Crew. If that doesn't scare you, for the ENTIRE Country, it should.
The though of Duke even being a candidate for POTUS sickens me as much as it does any of you, but he, or any other ___ist (race, sex, whatever) would only ruin part of the Country, while (I feel) AOC and/or the like would ruin everyone.
You may not understand that line of thinking, or agree with it, but that's OK. I think we all (well, except coreander) agree we hope to never get anywhere even close to that point.

coreander's AOC thread has only 7 response. Not sure I would call that "flocking to her". Personally, I'd much rather have a president who is in favor of free healthcare and education than a racist hate monger as president. Also, its pretty obvious that a Duke candidacy for POTUS does not sicken you as much as it does me. I can't think of any circumstances in which I would vote For David Duke for anything, let alone POTUS. You already said you would vote for him over AOC. I may not agree with all of her positions, but I would vote for her over Duke without even having to think about it. The fact that you said you would not, that is what scares me. How many others would vote for Duke (or Trump, for that matter) because some democrat ideas scare them?

This is literally how fascists come to power, every time. "Centrist liberals" (not the Uofa kind, the all3 kind) will always choose fascism over socialism. Especially if they are straight white males who won't be nearly as harmed by this type of government as wylie and I would be.

Posted by wylie715 on 8/17/2020 1:37:00 PM (view original):

Posted by all3 on 8/16/2020 10:14:00 PM (view original):

Posted by wylie715 on 8/16/2020 9:13:00 PM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 8/16/2020 1:45:00 PM (view original):
I never said that he wants you or I killed. I said that he would prefer we be killed at worst and discriminated against at best rather than vote for AOC.

don't get me wrong, I am not defending him on this one at all. I find it hard to believe any rational, somewhat intelligent human being (and I do think all3 is somewhat intelligent) can say they would vote for David Duke over AOC because some democrats have (what he considers) somewhat radical ideas (which would probably never get passed by both the senate and the house anyway).

"Some" Democrat extremists wouldn't scare me. Thing is, I don't think it's just "some" any more. People like coreander (see his AOC thread) are flocking to AOC and her Crew. If that doesn't scare you, for the ENTIRE Country, it should.
The though of Duke even being a candidate for POTUS sickens me as much as it does any of you, but he, or any other ___ist (race, sex, whatever) would only ruin part of the Country, while (I feel) AOC and/or the like would ruin everyone.
You may not understand that line of thinking, or agree with it, but that's OK. I think we all (well, except coreander) agree we hope to never get anywhere even close to that point.

coreander's AOC thread has only 7 response. Not sure I would call that "flocking to her". Personally, I'd much rather have a president who is in favor of free healthcare and education than a racist hate monger as president. Also, its pretty obvious that a Duke candidacy for POTUS does not sicken you as much as it does me. I can't think of any circumstances in which I would vote For David Duke for anything, let alone POTUS. You already said you would vote for him over AOC. I may not agree with all of her positions, but I would vote for her over Duke without even having to think about it. The fact that you said you would not, that is what scares me. How many others would vote for Duke (or Trump, for that matter) because some democrat ideas scare them?

Duh

Posted by tangplay on 8/17/2020 1:58:00 PM (view original):
This is literally how fascists come to power, every time. "Centrist liberals" (not the Uofa kind, the all3 kind) will always choose fascism over socialism. Especially if they are straight white males who won't be nearly as harmed by this type of government as wylie and I would be.

Duh

Back when Wylie said there was possible merit to the alt3 right to discriminate point he admits to just like I said.

faux intellectuals.

he laughs at you guys for not having any balls.

White straight males are the absolute worst. Once we ditch capitalism and it's concomitant white supremacist system ... White straight males will lose most of the property they've stolen with their privileges over the years. It will be a glorious day :)

worm drifting along..................

Posted by coreander on 8/17/2020 3:14:00 PM (view original):
White straight males are the absolute worst. Once we ditch capitalism and it's concomitant white supremacist system ... White straight males will lose most of the property they've stolen with their privileges over the years. It will be a glorious day :)

Silly talk
kudos for concomitant
I like that word too.

chase dreams not pipe dreams.

Say it with me: radical change is possible if we work for it! Don't stop fighting. No justice no peace!!!