Posted by tangplay on 1/1/2018 12:09:00 PM (view original):
Did some quick research, here are some examples I found:
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As they describe in two working papers, Redzo Mujcic and Paul Frijters, economists at the University of Queensland, trained and assigned 29 young adult testers (from both genders and different ethnic groups) to board public buses in Brisbane and insert an empty fare card into the bus scanner. After the scanner made a loud sound informing the driver that the card did not have enough value, the testers said, “I do not have any money, but I need to get to” a station about 1.2 miles away. (The station varied according to where the testers boarded.)

With more than 1,500 observations, the study uncovered substantial, statistically significant race discrimination. Bus drivers were twice as willing to let white testers ride free as black testers (72 percent versus 36 percent of the time). Bus drivers showed some relative favoritism toward testers who shared their own race, but even black drivers still favored white testers over black testers (allowing free rides 83 percent versus 68 percent of the time).

The study also found that racial disparities persisted when the testers wore business attire or dressed in army uniforms. For example, testers wearing army uniforms were allowed to ride free 97 percent of the time if they were white, but only 77 percent of the time if they were black.' - NYT, https://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/24/opinion/research-shows-white-privilege-is-real.html

https://www.thenewprogressive.net/ultimate-white-privilege-statistics/ also gives a TON of statistics, in almost every category.

https://www.theroot.com/yes-you-can-measure-white-privilege-1794303451 - More statistics.

We KNOW from quotes by Nixon and others that things like the War on Drugs and redlining was made to create the 'hood' and to keep black people out of suburbs and good 'white' jobs, this is not speculation, we KNOW this.

The Nixon campaign in 1968, and the Nixon White House after that, had two enemies: the antiwar left and black people," former Nixon domestic policy chief John Ehrlichman told Harper's writer Dan Baum for the April cover story published Tuesday.
"You understand what I'm saying? We knew we couldn't make it illegal to be either against the war or black, but by getting the public to associate the hippies with marijuana and blacks with heroin. And then criminalizing both heavily, we could disrupt those communities," Ehrlichman said. "We could arrest their leaders. raid their homes, break up their meetings, and vilify them night after night on the evening news. Did we know we were lying about the drugs? Of course we did." - CNN

And we can see it's impact in the world today.

just so some people can read up

Posted by strikeout26 on 1/1/2018 3:26:00 PM (view original):
The answer is no. People that come from wealth have an advantage, but race plays no factor. Poor white people struggle with the same issues as poor blacks and hispanics. Poverty is a much larger indicator than race.

I agree! Hispanics and Black people also are statistically more likely to be in poverty!

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Posted by DougOut on 1/1/2018 1:40:00 PM (view original):
Why are you quoting 1990 statistics? I didn't post them. Slavery ended over 150 years ago. The 1960s are over and Nixon and Reagan are dead. The majority of voters in Seattle are Democrats. And if nobody is racist then why do you post it? You should give up this argument and it is beyond party lines.

I would rather we agree on something instead of resist.

I wouldn't mind a new and improved infrastructure bill.

Because the statistics presumably still hold true today. And as the statistics show, THE IMPACT OF THOSE PEOPLE AND THINGS ARE STILL AROUND. And some people are racist others are not.

Black slums didn't exist prior to NIXON? He's the culprit and Republicans are monsters? And prior to 1968 everything was solid?

"Presumably" is a very weak foundational word to base an argument on. Particularly when it's forced into the first sentence.

Black slums did not have that culture and drug abuse if not for Nixon... His aide literally admitted it. Read the God Damn quote.

I am the only one to have provided statistics, until you provide more recent statistics saying otherwise, my statement holds true.

This isn't a time to argue. This is the time to get help. I think I can help you.

Unlike the liberals, I'm not gonna force it. I'll be here when you're willing and ready, It shouldn't be much longer now.

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Posted by strikeout26 on 1/1/2018 2:52:00 PM (view original):
Nope. The left loves crutches and doesn't understand personal choice. Nothing naive about it.

So the fact that crimes are committed equally among races yet black people get arrested twice as much isn't a big deal and does not show that white people are better off in any way?

I'm not a big fan of using crime rates to show social injustice. It's simple. Don't commit the crime. If you want to show me credible statistics that innocent minorities are being convicted you might sway me.

http://www.law.umich.edu/special/exoneration/Documents/Race_and_Wrongful_Convictions.pdf

You do realize all life forms from before the beginning of time can't click on a black link.

Why do you people keep posting them? Get with the 1990's. OH WAIT!

NEVERMIND!~

Posted by tangplay on 1/1/2018 3:14:00 PM (view original):

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Posted by DougOut on 1/1/2018 1:40:00 PM (view original):
Why are you quoting 1990 statistics? I didn't post them. Slavery ended over 150 years ago. The 1960s are over and Nixon and Reagan are dead. The majority of voters in Seattle are Democrats. And if nobody is racist then why do you post it? You should give up this argument and it is beyond party lines.

I would rather we agree on something instead of resist.

I wouldn't mind a new and improved infrastructure bill.

There is a difference between inequality and inequity. We had an African American POTUS who won by a landslide both times. This country has racist people but there is no more white privilege or wide spread institutional racism. We are not any more racist now than we were in the 60s yet in 60s 20% of African American kids had 1 parent and today it is around 70%. Nothing to do with racism and everything to do with culture.

AMEN!

This is not about racism though. It really isn't. What the deniers are saying can be lumped into a) I'm not racist, it's black people's fault. b) It's their own choice. But just look at my statistics and anecdotal evidence and tell me that white people are not better off.

Also divorce rates are WAYYYY up for everyone since the 60's, which would explain that stat.

You say it's not about racism, but the discussion started with someone talking about "institutional racism."

I thought it was White Privilege.

OH WAIT!

It's like a TWIX candy bar.

One side is white privilege and the other is institutional racism.

YUMMY!

Posted by tangplay on 1/1/2018 3:07:00 PM (view original):

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Posted by cccp1014 on 12/31/2017 5:12:00 PM (view original):
White privilege: Advantages both social and economic that benefit people identified as white beyond what is commonly experienced by non-white people under the same circumstances. Example: Because I am white bad_luck thinks I can get jobs easier than an African American or Asian American person. Yet Asian Americans statistically earn the most in the U.S. But stats don't matter to bad_luck because he is an idiot.

'Get Jobs easier'
'Asians earn the most'
False equivalence

HOW?!??!!? You idiot?!?!?! NO!!!

Please never respond to my posts again. You are a moron.

OK let me break it down for you. YOU were talking about white privilege meaning 'getting jobs easier', which I agree with. Then, you go on to prove that claim by saying, 'Asian Americans earn the most in the US'. This statistic means nothing in the context of your argument. Asian Americans can be discriminated against and still earn the most. It's pretty obvious that there is a stereotype around Asian Americans that they are 'smarter' than the rest of us. So just finding that statistic out of context really means nothing because it is a completely different issue. You proved nothing.

No, dummy. I used getting jobs easier as an example but it is not true. Asian Americans would not be getting paid more if they could not attain the higher paying jobs. Fact is men do get better jobs but not because of their color. This is my LAST post to you:

You are a mental midget who does not know sh*t about F*ck. You have no idea about the business world, you are a terrible writer and your religious views are at best primitive. There is no such thing as white privilege or institutional racism. There are those that are racists but so what, it is not wide spread and it is not built into our culture. Your idiocy is off the charts. STFU and read a damn book.

Uhh that is simply not true. Here is a good post for you. https://www.bls.gov/opub/ted/2012/ted_20121026.htm

This shows that white people and Asians get higher paying jobs (Because of the stereotype). Black people have majority production, transportation, etc., Hispanics have majority natural resources, etc. So yes, you are correct. I agree, Asians are better off in terms of getting higher-paying jobs. However I am correct in saying that white people and Asians are better off. It's black people and Hispanics that a) Statistically get lower-paying jobs and b) Have much higher unemployment rates. You are correct about Asians (although your logic is still off), but I am correct about white privledge.

https://www.stlouisfed.org/on-the-economy/2017/february/why-unemployment-rates-vary-races-ethnicity

So it was because of privilege that I received a college degree and then my company paid for my MBA? My parents came here with $100 in their pocket and did not speak English. It has nothing to do with race but culture. Plain and simple:

1. Graduate High School --- Anyone can do that who applies themselves
2. Don't become a single parent --- fairly easy to attain
3. Get a job post high school

Follow these three steps and you will not be poor. Nothing to do with DAMN color of someone's skin. ZERO.

Posted by DougOut on 1/1/2018 3:33:00 PM (view original):
You do realize all life forms from before the beginning of time can't click on a black link.

Why do you people keep posting them? Get with the 1990's. OH WAIT!

NEVERMIND!~

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NBA is 75% African American. DAMN RACISTS!!!

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Posted by DougOut on 1/1/2018 1:40:00 PM (view original):
Why are you quoting 1990 statistics? I didn't post them. Slavery ended over 150 years ago. The 1960s are over and Nixon and Reagan are dead. The majority of voters in Seattle are Democrats. And if nobody is racist then why do you post it? You should give up this argument and it is beyond party lines.

I would rather we agree on something instead of resist.

I wouldn't mind a new and improved infrastructure bill.

There is a difference between inequality and inequity. We had an African American POTUS who won by a landslide both times. This country has racist people but there is no more white privilege or wide spread institutional racism. We are not any more racist now than we were in the 60s yet in 60s 20% of African American kids had 1 parent and today it is around 70%. Nothing to do with racism and everything to do with culture.

AMEN!

This is not about racism though. It really isn't. What the deniers are saying can be lumped into a) I'm not racist, it's black people's fault. b) It's their own choice. But just look at my statistics and anecdotal evidence and tell me that white people are not better off.

Also divorce rates are WAYYYY up for everyone since the 60's, which would explain that stat.

You say it's not about racism, but the discussion started with someone talking about "institutional racism."

I was talking about individual people being racist or not.

Posted by cccp1014 on 1/1/2018 3:41:00 PM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 1/1/2018 3:07:00 PM (view original):

Posted by cccp1014 on 1/1/2018 2:27:00 PM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 1/1/2018 11:58:00 AM (view original):

Posted by cccp1014 on 1/1/2018 11:48:00 AM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 12/31/2017 5:41:00 PM (view original):

Posted by cccp1014 on 12/31/2017 5:12:00 PM (view original):
White privilege: Advantages both social and economic that benefit people identified as white beyond what is commonly experienced by non-white people under the same circumstances. Example: Because I am white bad_luck thinks I can get jobs easier than an African American or Asian American person. Yet Asian Americans statistically earn the most in the U.S. But stats don't matter to bad_luck because he is an idiot.

'Get Jobs easier'
'Asians earn the most'
False equivalence

HOW?!??!!? You idiot?!?!?! NO!!!

Please never respond to my posts again. You are a moron.

OK let me break it down for you. YOU were talking about white privilege meaning 'getting jobs easier', which I agree with. Then, you go on to prove that claim by saying, 'Asian Americans earn the most in the US'. This statistic means nothing in the context of your argument. Asian Americans can be discriminated against and still earn the most. It's pretty obvious that there is a stereotype around Asian Americans that they are 'smarter' than the rest of us. So just finding that statistic out of context really means nothing because it is a completely different issue. You proved nothing.

No, dummy. I used getting jobs easier as an example but it is not true. Asian Americans would not be getting paid more if they could not attain the higher paying jobs. Fact is men do get better jobs but not because of their color. This is my LAST post to you:

You are a mental midget who does not know sh*t about F*ck. You have no idea about the business world, you are a terrible writer and your religious views are at best primitive. There is no such thing as white privilege or institutional racism. There are those that are racists but so what, it is not wide spread and it is not built into our culture. Your idiocy is off the charts. STFU and read a damn book.

Uhh that is simply not true. Here is a good post for you. https://www.bls.gov/opub/ted/2012/ted_20121026.htm

This shows that white people and Asians get higher paying jobs (Because of the stereotype). Black people have majority production, transportation, etc., Hispanics have majority natural resources, etc. So yes, you are correct. I agree, Asians are better off in terms of getting higher-paying jobs. However I am correct in saying that white people and Asians are better off. It's black people and Hispanics that a) Statistically get lower-paying jobs and b) Have much higher unemployment rates. You are correct about Asians (although your logic is still off), but I am correct about white privledge.

https://www.stlouisfed.org/on-the-economy/2017/february/why-unemployment-rates-vary-races-ethnicity

So it was because of privilege that I received a college degree and then my company paid for my MBA? My parents came here with $100 in their pocket and did not speak English. It has nothing to do with race but culture. Plain and simple:

1. Graduate High School --- Anyone can do that who applies themselves
2. Don't become a single parent --- fairly easy to attain
3. Get a job post high school

Follow these three steps and you will not be poor. Nothing to do with DAMN color of someone's skin. ZERO.

omfg. No. White people can fail. Black people can succeed. But it is clear that white people have an ADVANTAGE and black people have a DISADVANTAGE.

Posted by cccp1014 on 1/1/2018 3:43:00 PM (view original):
NBA is 75% African American. DAMN RACISTS!!!

There is a stereotype that black people are better at basketball. So yes, there is something to that stereotype. That does not mean people in the NBA are racist

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Posted by tangplay on 1/1/2018 3:08:00 PM (view original):

Posted by strikeout26 on 1/1/2018 2:52:00 PM (view original):
Nope. The left loves crutches and doesn't understand personal choice. Nothing naive about it.

So the fact that crimes are committed equally among races yet black people get arrested twice as much isn't a big deal and does not show that white people are better off in any way?

I'm not a big fan of using crime rates to show social injustice. It's simple. Don't commit the crime. If you want to show me credible statistics that innocent minorities are being convicted you might sway me.

http://www.law.umich.edu/special/exoneration/Documents/Race_and_Wrongful_Convictions.pdf

I hope you are reading this mr strikeout

What was that advantage prior to this countries founding? Surly WE can't be responsible for that.