TRUMP: Best President ever Topic

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good stuff.
i know you consider yourself an I . the R model of a market economy from hoover on is more for the wealthy and the scraps for the rest.....same today.
we always need to progress and re tweek the new deal and tags like socialism be damned.....those are words to scare the idiots who have been brainwashed into thinking socialism means satanism.
6/10/2019 4:01 PM (edited)
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Reagan is the most OVERRATED Prez in U.S. history.
6/10/2019 4:08 PM
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Well, partially true. To about 40% of the Country it's clearly the illegitimately elected president, the orange headed liar who asked for (and RECEIVED) help from our nemesis to con 63 Million tontos and get elected.

Shame on US, not him.
6/10/2019 4:12 PM
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the whole right wing game plan on climate change is pure hooverism.
6/10/2019 4:20 PM
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Posted by laramiebob on 6/10/2019 4:12:00 PM (view original):
Well, partially true. To about 40% of the Country it's clearly the illegitimately elected president, the orange headed liar who asked for (and RECEIVED) help from our nemesis to con 63 Million tontos and get elected.

Shame on US, not him.
Didn't we just discuss this? After 2.5+ years of thousands of people spending every waking moment trying to find proof of Trump asking Russia for anything, there still is none. I'm sorry, but real Americans, who love the Country, don't keep repeating lies about their (yes, he is their) POTUS. As long as you keep doing so, I just can't buy into your claims of wanting what's best for the US.
6/10/2019 4:37 PM
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Reagan deserves big credit for the rusher thing which was monumental.
on trickle down he was the first....it did not work.
because of russia even with less then stellar domestic i rank him as a good prez.....maybe overrated but good overall.
6/10/2019 4:38 PM
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Posted by all3 on 6/10/2019 4:37:00 PM (view original):
Posted by laramiebob on 6/10/2019 4:12:00 PM (view original):
Well, partially true. To about 40% of the Country it's clearly the illegitimately elected president, the orange headed liar who asked for (and RECEIVED) help from our nemesis to con 63 Million tontos and get elected.

Shame on US, not him.
Didn't we just discuss this? After 2.5+ years of thousands of people spending every waking moment trying to find proof of Trump asking Russia for anything, there still is none. I'm sorry, but real Americans, who love the Country, don't keep repeating lies about their (yes, he is their) POTUS. As long as you keep doing so, I just can't buy into your claims of wanting what's best for the US.
i can say anything i want about a fuhrer.
you are the spreader of the lies.


you have the correct mentality to have been a good german in 1932 - 33.
6/10/2019 4:45 PM (edited)
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READ the Mueller report!! He literally begged everyone to do so. AT LEAST read the summaries prepared BY the Mueller investigative team and signed off on/endorsed by Mueller. The report quite CLEARLY states that Russia conspired to assist Trump get elected and that TRUMP encouraged it in numerous ways. A conclusion was made that not enough PROOF existed to bring Trump to trial on "conspiracy" (with the Russians known involved) and that while there may be obstruction committed by Trump on (at least) 10 instances, Mueller was prohibited by justice department rule from indicting a "sitting POTUS" on that charge. He further clearly stated that other remedies exist for obstruction. Likely referring to the impeachment process.
Thus his clearly stated intent/desire to "preserve" all evidence for historical as well as (potentially) usable purposes following any vacancy of the presidency.

Anyone claiming otherwise has either bought into propaganda/spin of a crooked and (known) lying administration or is completely idiotic beyond comprehension. Patriotism DEMANDS open eyes to tyranny and injustice.
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he also stated that the evidence was being preserved for potential future criminal charges.
6/10/2019 4:53 PM
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Posted by laramiebob on 6/10/2019 4:54:00 PM (view original):
READ the Mueller report!! He literally begged everyone to do so. AT LEAST read the summaries prepared BY the Mueller investigative team and signed off on/endorsed by Mueller. The report quite CLEARLY states that Russia conspired to assist Trump get elected and that TRUMP encouraged it in numerous ways. A conclusion was made that not enough PROOF existed to bring Trump to trial on "conspiracy" (with the Russians known involved) and that while there may be obstruction committed by Trump on (at least) 10 instances, Mueller was prohibited by justice department rule from indicting a "sitting POTUS" on that charge. He further clearly stated that other remedies exist for obstruction. Likely referring to the impeachment process.
Thus his clearly stated intent/desire to "preserve" all evidence for historical as well as (potentially) usable purposes following any vacancy of the presidency.

Anyone claiming otherwise has either bought into propaganda/spin of a crooked and (known) lying administration or is completely idiotic beyond comprehension. Patriotism DEMANDS open eyes to tyranny and injustice.
6/10/2019 7:21 PM
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Well bob, I guess that's one way that someone could read into it what they want.
Again though, even you state "not enough PROOF". If it's not enough proof for the American Legal process, why is it enough for you?
Remove your hatred for the person and view it unbiased. Doesn't the POTUS deserve the same basic right of "Innocent until PROVEN guilty" (using the established process, NOT certain individuals' thoughts) that all Americans are given?
6/11/2019 9:30 AM
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6/11/2019 10:26 AM
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Posted by all3 on 6/11/2019 9:30:00 AM (view original):
Well bob, I guess that's one way that someone could read into it what they want.
Again though, even you state "not enough PROOF". If it's not enough proof for the American Legal process, why is it enough for you?
Remove your hatred for the person and view it unbiased. Doesn't the POTUS deserve the same basic right of "Innocent until PROVEN guilty" (using the established process, NOT certain individuals' thoughts) that all Americans are given?
then you support the impeachment inquiry...good for you.
6/11/2019 10:49 AM
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Posted by all3 on 6/11/2019 9:30:00 AM (view original):
Well bob, I guess that's one way that someone could read into it what they want.
Again though, even you state "not enough PROOF". If it's not enough proof for the American Legal process, why is it enough for you?
Remove your hatred for the person and view it unbiased. Doesn't the POTUS deserve the same basic right of "Innocent until PROVEN guilty" (using the established process, NOT certain individuals' thoughts) that all Americans are given?
Why is it you can't just state things straight out instead of spinning? I was very careful in my verbiage. There wasn't enough PROOF (in Mueller's opinion) to charge a sitting POTUS for "conspiracy" with the Russians. There WAS evidence that Mueller concluded was direct and serial attempts to "obstruct justice" (ONE of the planks of impeachment against BOTH Nixon and Clinton!) but HE was prohibited from charging a sitting POTUS with that charge.

Like it or not, (I don't) Congress (by Law!) has to do it's duty under our Constitution. IF the House of Rep. believes and concludes that Trump broke the law then they MUST begin impeachment proceedings. The politics be damned. The POLITICS is not supposed to matter! DUTY is.

It also doesn't matter what the House leaders THINK the Senate will do at trial. THAT is NOT their DUTY. They will have already done their DUTY by referring the matter to the Senate! Politics be damned.

I agree with Dino about you. You would have made a fantastic party member in Germany in 1930 - 1933. (Unfortunately for somebody who supposedly HATES parties--that party was the Nazi Party!)
You are much too willing to support compromised leadership in the false concept of Country and Patriotism. You'll even tolerate being lied to and corruption in your leader. I won't!

When the POTUS (any Pres.!) LIES to the citizens HE is no longer worthy of our support. When He MAY be corruptly linked to foreign adversaries He SHOULD be investigated and either cleared......... or prosecuted for his crimes---Punished with PRISON-time (like any other citizen) OR HUNG for TREASON if that be the case.

End of simple story.

I can't possibly understand why ANY good American would think otherwise. Do you?
6/11/2019 12:18 PM
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Posted by all3 on 6/11/2019 9:30:00 AM (view original):
Well bob, I guess that's one way that someone could read into it what they want.
Again though, even you state "not enough PROOF". If it's not enough proof for the American Legal process, why is it enough for you?
Remove your hatred for the person and view it unbiased. Doesn't the POTUS deserve the same basic right of "Innocent until PROVEN guilty" (using the established process, NOT certain individuals' thoughts) that all Americans are given?
Mueller wouldn't have charged the President no matter what he found. Thus, by your logic, it is impossible for the President to be guilty. But keep telling us about how you are reasonable and unbiased.
6/11/2019 12:43 PM
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