That's my point. Asking Judge to cut down on his swing on 2 strike counts is an approach change. He hit 40% of his home runs with two strikes last year. Why would you want to give that up?

Because 100% of his strikeouts happened on a 2 strike count. And you're completely missing the point that his power doesn't necessarily become non-existent by changing it up a little when he's behind in the count. He could potentially become a better all around hitter by attempting to reduce strikeouts.

Maybe. But we know for a fact that he was an awesome offensive player as is.

Clearly. But how great would it be if he got better?

Posted by bad_luck on 11/6/2017 2:35:00 PM (view original):

Posted by MikeT23 on 11/6/2017 2:33:00 PM (view original):
Did you advise Mike Trout to do the same thing? He was pretty good when he said he wanted to cut down on strikeouts, right?

Trout didn't change his approach.

He said he was going to. Are you calling Mike Trout a liar?

Posted by MikeT23 on 11/6/2017 3:45:00 PM (view original):

Posted by bad_luck on 11/6/2017 2:35:00 PM (view original):

Posted by MikeT23 on 11/6/2017 2:33:00 PM (view original):
Did you advise Mike Trout to do the same thing? He was pretty good when he said he wanted to cut down on strikeouts, right?

Trout didn't change his approach.

He said he was going to. Are you calling Mike Trout a liar?

if he did, it wasn’t apparent in his results.

You're an idiot

Posted by bad_luck on 11/6/2017 1:39:00 PM (view original):

Posted by MikeT23 on 11/6/2017 1:33:00 PM (view original):

Posted by bad_luck on 11/6/2017 1:32:00 PM (view original):

Posted by MikeT23 on 11/6/2017 1:28:00 PM (view original):
I'm assuming the season after he said "I want to cut down on strikeouts" but, truthfully, I don't know. I just assumed tec knew what he was talking about. I didn't look it up.

So you don't know if he cut his K's and improved his OPS?

Are you saying tec was incorrect?

Do you think I can't look it up?

Well...you don't even know what years to compare...so I guess you could try.

FWIW, Trout never significantly cut down on his strikeouts. He's always floated around low to mid 20%. 22, 22, 19, 26, 23, 20, and then 18 this year. Even when he went from 26% to 23%, it was only a difference of 26 Ks over the course of 700+ PAs.

Looks to me he dropped from 26% of his AB to 18% of his AB. You don't think that's noticeable?

Goddammit. I had to look it up because you're pretty adamant that nothing changed.

If I had to guess, Trout said he'd work on striking out less after the 2014 season when he whiffed 184 times. Still posted a pretty solid 168 OPS+.
Then has had a better OPS+ every season since while striking out a fewer percentage of his AB.

And you still don't think Judge would benefit from striking out less?

Posted by MikeT23 on 11/6/2017 4:35:00 PM (view original):

Posted by bad_luck on 11/6/2017 1:39:00 PM (view original):

Posted by MikeT23 on 11/6/2017 1:33:00 PM (view original):

Posted by bad_luck on 11/6/2017 1:32:00 PM (view original):

Posted by MikeT23 on 11/6/2017 1:28:00 PM (view original):
I'm assuming the season after he said "I want to cut down on strikeouts" but, truthfully, I don't know. I just assumed tec knew what he was talking about. I didn't look it up.

So you don't know if he cut his K's and improved his OPS?

Are you saying tec was incorrect?

Do you think I can't look it up?

Well...you don't even know what years to compare...so I guess you could try.

FWIW, Trout never significantly cut down on his strikeouts. He's always floated around low to mid 20%. 22, 22, 19, 26, 23, 20, and then 18 this year. Even when he went from 26% to 23%, it was only a difference of 26 Ks over the course of 700+ PAs.

Looks to me he dropped from 26% of his AB to 18% of his AB. You don't think that's noticeable?

The year over year numbers aren't that different, at least not different enough to argue that a normal variance in K rate deserves credit for a slight increase in production.

2012 - 22% K - .963 OPS
2013 - 19% K - .989 OPS
2014 - 26% K - .938 OPS
2015 - 23% K - .992 OPS
2016 - 20% K - .991 OPS
2017 - 18% K - 1.071 OPS

His career average K rate is 21.5. His average OPS is .976. The biggest difference between his best year and his worst year is his home run rate.

LOL. Look at the numbers you posted from 2014 on. Just look at the numbers. There is a pattern.

You've done all you can Mike. It's beyond hilarious at this point.

Posted by MikeT23 on 11/6/2017 5:31:00 PM (view original):
LOL. Look at the numbers you posted from 2014 on. Just look at the numbers. There is a pattern.

His K rate went down from 15 to 16 but his OPS stayed the same.

Wouldn't think a numbers guy would leave out 2017 to justify his argument. It's all in the numbers, man.
And you left out 2014 which was the jumping point.

BL is so clueless.