Well, it looks like there was no change in the formula. The same guys keep getting the same max increases...

Biggest % changes - Pitchers...
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Change	2017Jun	2017Oct	Player	Total Change
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10.0%	20,579,504	22,637,454	1908 Addie Joss	77.2%
10.0%	17,461,608	19,207,768	1995 Greg Maddux	77.2%
9.5%	6,913,934	7,573,308	1990 Dennis Eckersley	76.4%
9.3%	6,757,724	7,383,267	1918 Fred Toney	75.7%
8.9%	9,767,444	10,632,602	1888 Elton Chamberlain	72.8%
8.4%	8,683,246	9,409,085	2003 Eric Gagne	72.2%
8.3%	18,229,504	19,740,162	2000 Pedro Martinez	68.6%
7.6%	5,908,995	6,359,922	2012 Craig Kimbrel	63.7%
7.2%	2,889,295	3,097,799	1967 Cisco Carlos	59.8%
7.1%	5,661,428	6,065,355	1919 Art Nehf	56.3%
7.0%	4,886,878	5,229,913	2010 Hong-Chih Kuo	53.9%
6.6%	3,166,421	3,375,906	1918 Jake Northrop	51.1%
6.0%	12,401,030	13,141,025	1914 Dutch Leonard	47.6%
5.8%	1,730,021	1,830,304	1988 Bob Milacki	48.7%
5.7%	4,975,438	5,261,358	2008 Mariano Rivera	39.0%
5.4%	6,446,842	6,796,434	2013 Koji Uehara	44.6%
5.3%	21,892,528	23,042,470	1915 Pete Alexander	42.0%
5.2%	7,846,799	8,251,387	1916 Ferdie Schupp	36.4%
4.9%	5,045,951	5,291,644	1908 Elmer Steele	39.3%
4.8%	3,309,284	3,469,493	2009 Mike Adams	35.0%
4.8%	16,091,388	16,868,664	1968 Bob Gibson	38.1%

The Total Change column at the far right represents % change since the dynamic salary pricing went into effect.

And for those who want to do the math, 10% increase 6 times = 77.2%

Top 20 hitter increases...
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Change	2017Jun	2017Oct	Player	Total Change
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8.7%	8,521,993	9,261,364	1989 Howard Johnson	71.9%
8.6%	19,472,440	21,147,360	1911 Ty Cobb	68.2%
8.2%	7,013,516	7,591,678	1992 Bip Roberts	72.6%
8.1%	21,950,428	23,719,410	1901 Nap Lajoie	67.7%
7.9%	14,316,285	15,440,187	1980 George Brett	65.9%
7.8%	20,924,936	22,558,810	1927 Lou Gehrig	65.0%
7.2%	15,668,870	16,803,648	1886 King Kelly	58.1%
6.6%	25,045,352	26,701,562	1921 Babe Ruth	49.9%
6.4%	17,848,184	18,998,790	1941 Ted Williams	49.3%
6.3%	17,047,610	18,122,006	1956 Mickey Mantle	47.3%
6.3%	295,481	314,027	2013 Michael Young	54.7%
6.2%	24,002,264	25,486,454	1923 Babe Ruth	47.3%
6.1%	18,592,050	19,727,098	1924 Rogers Hornsby	49.6%
6.1%	11,440,956	12,135,096	1899 John McGraw	44.5%
5.9%	18,795,644	19,910,456	1894 Hugh Duffy	46.6%
5.7%	17,615,804	18,619,350	1887 Tip O'Neill	41.3%
5.5%	343,265	362,186	2003 Wilson Delgado	45.1%
5.4%	10,175,378	10,726,378	1997 Mike Piazza	35.6%
5.2%	11,056,201	11,627,133	1935 Jimmie Foxx	34.7%
5.2%	11,170,261	11,746,237	1975 Joe Morgan	37.3%

Nobody is using the $12 million players at caps at 100M or below. Clearly, all the high cap theme leagues are driving the increase. Or like somebody mentioned before, maybe they aren't re-setting the counts each iteration and as a result are double-counting previous results.

By the way, the stupid rule about keeping the overall salary the same means that individual player salary decreases are miniscule in relation. The BIGGEST overall absolute salary decrease by a pitcher since the inception of the dynamic salaries is $150K (1890 Sadie McMahon, which is less than 1% of his original salary).

So, Joss goes up 77% and McMahon goes down 1%.

Yeah - there are not enough high cap leagues to weight the changes so dramatically in the favor of players available at those caps. As Brian originally hypothesized, they are likely not resetting the counts.

Additionally, it definitely was not realistic to think seble had the resources for this change to make significant changes to the formula, this soon after taking over. Hopefully that will be the case by the next update in February.

This is getting stupid. It's like they've checked their common sense at the door.

To back up the no-counter-reset theory, 1989 Howard Johnson is DEFINITELY not being used much anymore and hasn't been for a while

Posted by ozomatli on 10/26/2017 11:50:00 AM (view original):
To back up the no-counter-reset theory, 1989 Howard Johnson is DEFINITELY not being used much anymore and hasn't been for a while

Yeah, I don't think an $8.5mil HoJo is getting used more than any other player.

Posted by ozomatli on 10/26/2017 11:50:00 AM (view original):
Yeah - there are not enough high cap leagues to weight the changes so dramatically in the favor of players available at those caps. As Brian originally hypothesized, they are likely not resetting the counts.

Additionally, it definitely was not realistic to think seble had the resources for this change to make significant changes to the formula, this soon after taking over. Hopefully that will be the case by the next update in February.

It wasn't my theory originally - someone else said it in one of the threads and it looked right to me. As jfranco says, it's HoJo that's the giveaway here. Unless some open league teams are being filled on autopilot, there is no way he's being used that much. He wasn't *that* much of a bargain to begin with, I think. And even if 08 Addie gets used some in high cap leagues, he shouldn't be being used more than a dozen other top pitchers, but he has a higher jump than them every time.

the evidence does seem to be in and hopefully it will be a simple fix. I'm not a code writer or programmer, far from it fact, but the compound counting should be a priority fix. Elton Chamberlain's 135 quality IPs are going to cost $85,000 to $90,000 each soon.

I agree.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=806en-DvQe4