Cooperstown Historical Replay 1985 - Full Topic

Thank You Contrarian23 for the great idea!
all the following was copied and pasted from contrarian's thread

Historical Replay League


I’ve always been interested in using WIS to complete a long-term historical replay. See this thread for a discussion I started over a year ago to explore the possibility.

The Cooperstown Historical Replay League is intended to fulfill that ambition. Rules will be explained in more detail in the next post, but first I want to provide some context.

WIS provides us with a database full of players going back to 1885. Every team that has appeared in the major leagues since then is here, including teams and players from three now-defunct leagues: the American Association (in the database from 1885-1891), the Player’s League (from its sole iteration in 1890), and the Federal League (from its two year stint in 1914-1915.)

So I’ve always been surprised that there aren’t more historical replay leagues. In fact, I’ve never seen one at all. I’m not talking about progressives, or twist themes, but a league where the idea is to replay each season in MLB history with the same rosters as the actual teams had that season.

The most important thing to know about this league:

There are a number of challenges with doing this, but foremost among them is probably this: every season there are a handful of teams that are doomed to be lousy and have no chance of competing. I have in mind a couple of ways of dealing with that, butthe first and most important thing to understand about this league is that some teams are not going to have any chance of winning in any given season. And you may end up with one of those teams.

Please read that previous paragraph as often as necessary, and make sure you are OK with this before signing up to join this league. This is a founding premise of this league: our primary purpose is to create an alternative historical narrative, to explore how things might have been, rather than to ensure that each owner has a decent chance to win in any given season. So we will not be giving lesser teams AAA, or twists, or free agents, or doing anything else to enhance competitive balance, and whining about this will not be tolerated at all.

Again, please fully understand this before signing up, as this fundamental principle is not subject to change. We will run the league as long as we have enough interested owners, but we will not alter this basic concept.
10/30/2017 9:27 PM
League Rules*

*some rules differ from the 1901 version and 1980 version.

OK, if you’ve come this far, then hopefully you’re comfortable with the premise that if you join this league there will be seasons where your team is just going to suck, and there will not be much that you can do about it. Hey, someone’s going to end up managing the 2003 Tigers.
Here’s how we we’re going to do this:
  1. The league will start with the 1980 MLB season and progress forward one season at a time.
  2. In season 1, once we have 26 owners, we will have a draft of the 26 MLB teams from 1980. Randomized draft order usingwww.random.org.
  3. For the 1980 season, we will use the 1977-1992 Format (7/7/6/6), which entails:
    1. 162 games
    2. 26 teams divided into 2 leagues and a total of 4 divisions
    3. 4 playoff teams (the 4 division winners; there is no wildcard in this format)
    4. No interleague play
  4. This is the way MLB was organized in 1980.
  5. The divisions will be arranged as they were in 1980.
  6. Subsequent seasons will use different formats, to reflect the way baseball changed over the years.
  7. Once you have chosen your team, you will go into the draft center and enter your actual players from that season. You can use the “load historical team” feature if you want…this is often the easiest and cleanest way to build your roster, but it’s not infallible. Occasionally players are missed when you load a team that way. If you prefer to draft your players individually, keep in mind that:
    1. For players who were traded or otherwise appeared for multiple teams in a single season, you MUST use the partial-season version of that player. If the player did not get enough PA or IP with your team to warrant a partial-season version then you cannot use him.
    2. All players who played for your team in real life, and are in the WIS database, must be on your roster.
    3. Only players who played for your team in real life may be used in games. This is important, because many teams, especially from the early years, do not have 25 players in the database. In such cases, you will draft additional $200,000 players from the database (from any 1980 season on) to fill out your roster, but these players MUST:
      1. Be manually set to rest at all times
      2. Be manually removed from your player rest, defensive replacement, and PH hierarchies.
    4. In other words, these non-roster players may not be used in games, unless WIS slots them in because of some sort of emergency, and owners should take every possible step to ensure that doesn’t happen.
    5. It is quite likely that some teams will be short of PA or IP, perhaps even very short. So be it.
  8. We will use “draft your own” AAA with the following parameters
    1. Each season, the theme rules will be set for a number of AAA players sufficient to allow the team with the largest real-life roster enough slots to incorporate all of their players.
    2. Teams that have more than 25 players in the WIS database will draft these additional players into AAA slots.These players MAY be used in games, and the transaction deadline will be set as late as possible to allow for roster moves throughout the season.
    3. Teams with unfilled AAA slots can either draft your own $200K players to fill the AAA slots, or just let WIS fill those slots with random AAA players, but in either case, those players MAY NOT be used in games. They should remain in AAA the entire season.
    4. Again, the purpose of AAA is to include as many real-life players as possible; no SIM-generated AAA players should ever be used in games in this league.
  9. By all means, do your best to win as many games as you can with the players you have! This is important for several reasons, including…
  10. …This is NOT a keeper league. Each season we will redraft from the pool of available teams. However, unlike with season 1, and unlike the 1900 and 1950 versions, these drafts will be weighted random (think NBA lottery). Instead, owners whose teams most overachieve in the current season will receive a greater likelihood of getting the highest draft picks for the next season. “Overachievement” will be defined as “greatest relative improvement in winning percentage.” Or for those who prefer a formula: (WIS winning percentage – MLB winning percentage)/MLB winning percentage. So, if you get stuck with a terrible team in year 1, fear not. If you can win a few more games than they did in real life, you’re probably in great shape to draw a better team in season 2. If, because of owner turnover, we have new owners in the league, they will draft last in their first season (we will use random.org to generate the order for new owners if there are more than one in any given season.)
  11. There will be real drafting strategy here. Do you pick the best remaining team available when it’s your turn? Or the team with the greatest possibility of improving on their real-life record?
  12. Obviously we are not allowing trades or waiver wire here. We will use the DH in the AL; if you rabidly hate the DH, please don’t let that dissuade you from joining.
10/30/2017 9:27 PM
Returning Owners:

1. dippedncrack
2. schwarze
3. flippen
4. jkorn
5. eddiedzen
6. jfranco77
7. mfumar
8. gelfost
9. llcoach
10. redcped
11. loyalcanuck
12. burningcouch
13. Chisock
14. ff09
15. tywebb3
16. northof49
17. specsman
18. lenbo1212
19. Cicero
20. ceez
21. matt121888
22. jlvjr11


New Ownwers:
1. ace1430
2. dh0220
3. ShackAttack
4. cstrohmier

dippedncrack;schwarze;flippen;jkorn;eddiedzen;jfranco77;mfumar;gelfost;llcoach;redcped;loyalcanuck;burningcouch;Chisock;ff09;tywebb3;northof49;specsman;lenbo1212;Cicero;ceez;matt121888;jlvjr11;ace1430;dh0220;ShackAttack
11/11/2017 5:12 PM (edited)
1985 Lottery Seed Owner 1984 Team RL W RL L RL Pct WIS W WIS L WIS Pct Pct +/- Rank 1984 Draft Pick Rank Improvement
—— ——————— ——————— ———— ———— ———— ———— ———— ———— ———— ——— ———————- ———————
1 schwarze Pittsburgh Pirates 75 87 0.463 103 59 0.636 37.37 1 9 8
2 eddiedzen Philadelphia Phillies 81 81 0.5 107 55 0.66 32 2 2 0
3 specsman Chicago White Sox 74 88 0.457 84 78 0.519 13.57 3 20 17
4 happyhours Milwaukee Brewers 67 94 0.416 76 86 0.469 12.74 4 24 20
5 tywebb3 Houston Astros 80 82 0.494 90 72 0.556 12.55 5 4 -1
6 northof49 Toronto Blue Jays 89 73 0.549 96 66 0.593 8.01 6 3 -3
7 matt121888 San Francisco Giants 66 96 0.407 71 91 0.438 7.62 7 23 16
8 Cicero Cincinnati Reds 70 92 0.432 74 88 0.457 5.79 8 25 17
9 ceez Seattle Mariners 74 88 0.457 77 85 0.475 3.94 9 26 17
10 redcped Texas Rangers 69 92 0.429 71 91 0.438 2.1 10 22 12
11 84Champs Detroit Tigers 104 58 0.642 106 56 0.654 1.87 11 1 -10
12 loyalcanuck Kansas City Royals 84 78 0.519 85 77 0.525 1.16 12 5 -7
13 dippedncrack Boston Red Sox 86 76 0.531 87 75 0.537 1.13 13 17 4
14 mfumar Baltimore Orioles 85 77 0.525 83 79 0.512 -2.48 14 16 2
15 llcoach St. Louis Cardinals 84 78 0.519 81 81 0.5 -3.66 15 8 -7
16 ff09 Oakland Athletics 77 85 0.475 74 88 0.457 -3.79 16 15 -1
17 flippen Cleveland Indians 75 87 0.463 71 91 0.438 -5.4 17 18 1
18 burningcouch San Diego Padres 92 70 0.568 87 75 0.537 -5.46 18 6 -12
19 gelfost Chicago Cubs 96 65 0.596 91 71 0.562 -5.7 19 7 -12
20 jfranco77 Minnesota Twins 81 81 0.5 75 87 0.463 -7.4 20 19 -1
21 rickysdad44 Los Angeles Dodgers 79 83 0.488 73 89 0.451 -7.58 21 10 -11
22 jkorn New York Yankees 87 75 0.537 80 82 0.494 -8.01 22 14 -8
23 lenbo1212 Montreal Expos 78 83 0.484 68 94 0.42 -13.22 23 12 -11
24 Chisock California Angels 81 81 0.5 69 93 0.426 -14.8 24 11 -13
25 bigfatjew Atlanta Braves 80 82 0.494 60 102 0.37 -25.1 25 21 -4
26 jlvjr11 New York Mets 90 72 0.556 67 95 0.414 -25.54 26 13 -13
10/30/2017 9:29 PM (edited)
res
10/30/2017 9:28 PM
waiting to hear from a few owners from 1984, but there should be some slots available regardless
10/31/2017 9:49 AM
6 spots
11/1/2017 7:50 AM
5 spots
11/1/2017 5:49 PM
4 spots
11/2/2017 6:54 PM
3 spots
11/3/2017 3:42 PM
2 spots
11/4/2017 3:24 PM
need 2
11/6/2017 5:01 PM
2
11/9/2017 6:56 AM
I'm interested.
11/9/2017 3:00 PM
Posted by ShackAttack on 11/9/2017 3:00:00 PM (view original):
I'm interested.
Great to have you - I'll add you to the list.
11/10/2017 1:37 AM
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