What about Chipper? Topic

Rivera brought the blown save the exposure it deserves. Primest of the prime time situations.
11/21/2017 1:06 PM
So desperate for attention. Repeating the same thing with an alias doesn't change the fact that no one cares for your opinion.
11/21/2017 1:31 PM
Posted by cccp1014 on 11/21/2017 10:48:00 AM (view original):
I find it funny that people think a .266 hitter is equivalent to a .289 hitter.
I was waiting for BL to say it but....

Edgar’s lifetime WAR is 68.3
Ortiz’s lifetime WAR (with 2 more seasons) is 55.4

Career fWAR: Edgar - 65.5 Ortiz - 46.1
Career bWAR: Edgar - 68.3 Ortiz - 50.4
Career wRC+: Edgar - 147 Ortiz - 138
% of games at DH (since everybody hates the DH): Edgar - 70.3 Ortiz - 87.2
Career OBP: Edgar - .418 Ortiz - .378


Edgar:
one of just 21 players with a career .300/.400/.500 line.

one of 4 players since 1945 with atleast a career OBP of .418 - the other 3 are Mantle, Thomas, and Bonds

Ortiz:
Career .962 OPS in the postseason
11/21/2017 2:10 PM
Posted by MikeT23 on 11/21/2017 10:35:00 AM (view original):
For pete's sake. Ortiz is in, probably first ballot, because he was a smiling fat guy who excelled in the post-season on a team that hadn't had post-season success since before prohibition. Martinez is out because no one knew he existed and he was afraid to swing the bat if the pitch wasn't grooved. Neither one could put a glove on if it came with instructions.
Read the thread, dretard.
11/21/2017 2:15 PM
It's not called The Hall of Stats.
11/21/2017 2:16 PM
Posted by d_rock97 on 11/21/2017 2:10:00 PM (view original):
Posted by cccp1014 on 11/21/2017 10:48:00 AM (view original):
I find it funny that people think a .266 hitter is equivalent to a .289 hitter.
I was waiting for BL to say it but....

Edgar’s lifetime WAR is 68.3
Ortiz’s lifetime WAR (with 2 more seasons) is 55.4

Career fWAR: Edgar - 65.5 Ortiz - 46.1
Career bWAR: Edgar - 68.3 Ortiz - 50.4
Career wRC+: Edgar - 147 Ortiz - 138
% of games at DH (since everybody hates the DH): Edgar - 70.3 Ortiz - 87.2
Career OBP: Edgar - .418 Ortiz - .378


Edgar:
one of just 21 players with a career .300/.400/.500 line.

one of 4 players since 1945 with atleast a career OBP of .418 - the other 3 are Mantle, Thomas, and Bonds

Ortiz:
Career .962 OPS in the postseason
Yeah Martinez was better.
11/21/2017 2:18 PM
Posted by MikeT23 on 11/21/2017 2:16:00 PM (view original):
It's not called The Hall of Stats.
But that’s what it’s based on. The only players where fame came before stats were Catfish Hunter, and Bill Mazeroski. Both meh players.
11/21/2017 2:20 PM
Posted by MikeT23 on 11/21/2017 1:31:00 PM (view original):
So desperate for attention. Repeating the same thing with an alias doesn't change the fact that no one cares for your opinion.
Somebody needed to agree with me.
11/21/2017 2:23 PM
Posted by d_rock97 on 11/21/2017 2:20:00 PM (view original):
Posted by MikeT23 on 11/21/2017 2:16:00 PM (view original):
It's not called The Hall of Stats.
But that’s what it’s based on. The only players where fame came before stats were Catfish Hunter, and Bill Mazeroski. Both meh players.
Is it?

Then why is Ortiz gonna walk in his first year of eligibility and Martinez will walk in only if a ticket accompanies him? 'splain that.
11/21/2017 2:23 PM
Posted by MikeT23 on 11/21/2017 2:23:00 PM (view original):
Posted by d_rock97 on 11/21/2017 2:20:00 PM (view original):
Posted by MikeT23 on 11/21/2017 2:16:00 PM (view original):
It's not called The Hall of Stats.
But that’s what it’s based on. The only players where fame came before stats were Catfish Hunter, and Bill Mazeroski. Both meh players.
Is it?

Then why is Ortiz gonna walk in his first year of eligibility and Martinez will walk in only if a ticket accompanies him? 'splain that.
Because voters are dumb.
11/21/2017 2:32 PM
Ortiz Team PA wRC+ Martinez Team PA wRC+
2007 Red Sox 667 175 1995 Mariners 639 182
2005 Red Sox 713 157 1992 Mariners 592 165
2006 Red Sox 686 157 1997 Mariners 678 164
2011 Red Sox 605 154 1996 Mariners 634 163
2013 Red Sox 600 151 1999 Mariners 608 161
2004 Red Sox 669 147 1998 Mariners 672 157
2003 Red Sox 509 145 2001 Mariners 581 157
2015 Red Sox 614 138 2000 Mariners 665 154
2010 Red Sox 606 134 2003 Mariners 603 142
2014 Red Sox 602 134 2002 Mariners 407 141
2008 Red Sox 491 124 1991 Mariners 642 138
2002 Twins 466 118 1990 Mariners 570 134
2000 Twins 478 103 2004 Mariners 549 92
2009 Red Sox 627 100 —?—
Total 8333 140 Total 7840 151



Edgar vs Ortiz, by best season, in descending order.

Edgar consistently beats Ortiz
11/21/2017 2:35 PM
Voters are dumb for the people that collectively fool them and get in. If they as a group find cause to not put someone in, they probably have a good reason.
11/21/2017 2:37 PM
Posted by MikeT23 on 11/21/2017 2:23:00 PM (view original):
Posted by d_rock97 on 11/21/2017 2:20:00 PM (view original):
Posted by MikeT23 on 11/21/2017 2:16:00 PM (view original):
It's not called The Hall of Stats.
But that’s what it’s based on. The only players where fame came before stats were Catfish Hunter, and Bill Mazeroski. Both meh players.
Is it?

Then why is Ortiz gonna walk in his first year of eligibility and Martinez will walk in only if a ticket accompanies him? 'splain that.
Cuz even post-Moneyball, all these old voters don’t understand which stats are good. They’ll prob vote another RBI hound in over Edgar like Harold Baines or something stupid
11/21/2017 2:39 PM
Posted by bad_luck on 11/21/2017 2:32:00 PM (view original):
Posted by MikeT23 on 11/21/2017 2:23:00 PM (view original):
Posted by d_rock97 on 11/21/2017 2:20:00 PM (view original):
Posted by MikeT23 on 11/21/2017 2:16:00 PM (view original):
It's not called The Hall of Stats.
But that’s what it’s based on. The only players where fame came before stats were Catfish Hunter, and Bill Mazeroski. Both meh players.
Is it?

Then why is Ortiz gonna walk in his first year of eligibility and Martinez will walk in only if a ticket accompanies him? 'splain that.
Because voters are dumb.
LOL. No. It's because it's not called The Hall of Stats. No matter how much you and your ilk wish it was, it isn't. Much like this board, you're not God of Baseball. Accept that simple fact and you'll live a happier life.
11/21/2017 2:39 PM
Posted by d_rock97 on 11/21/2017 2:39:00 PM (view original):
Posted by MikeT23 on 11/21/2017 2:23:00 PM (view original):
Posted by d_rock97 on 11/21/2017 2:20:00 PM (view original):
Posted by MikeT23 on 11/21/2017 2:16:00 PM (view original):
It's not called The Hall of Stats.
But that’s what it’s based on. The only players where fame came before stats were Catfish Hunter, and Bill Mazeroski. Both meh players.
Is it?

Then why is Ortiz gonna walk in his first year of eligibility and Martinez will walk in only if a ticket accompanies him? 'splain that.
Cuz even post-Moneyball, all these old voters don’t understand which stats are good. They’ll prob vote another RBI hound in over Edgar like Harold Baines or something stupid
Or, more likely, it's not called The Hall of Stats.
11/21/2017 2:40 PM
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