Round 2 Sound Off, 2017 Topic

That sounds about right, honestly. Assuming (super rough) 16 pitchers per inning, and using your min of 215 IP, they should be able to throw about 105 pitches every 5 games. If you want to throw them every four games, they would need to be around 85. Even a 250 IP pitcher would only be able to throw 95-100 pitches every 4 days. These may be slightly understated due to the 10% bump WIS allows, but that doesn't make a huge difference here.
12/20/2017 9:36 PM
deadball pitchers hit .200. modern pitchers hit .080. that difference is more significant than the difference in errors. low hr/9 may not mean as much as it once did but it's still underpriced. I'm using deadball pitchers until their salaries come into alignment with equivalent modern pitchers.
12/20/2017 11:33 PM
I set the sacrifice hit rating to "5" with all my pitchers (unless they are really good hitters). And I will pinch hit for pitchers in the late innings. Does the one or two plate appearances per game that a pitcher actually swings away make that much of a difference? That's about one extra hit about every four games (assuming 2 AB's per game at +0.120 avg diff).

I think if you are using 1800's batters (with those terrible fielding ratings), the difference between a deadball pitcher and a modern pitcher makes a huge difference in errors. I recently played in a league where I played all 1800's batters (A++ range with D fielding). I used modern pitchers. Their errors were 1/3 of their real life totals, while my opponents committed way more errors than expected.
12/21/2017 9:21 AM
Posted by ozomatli on 12/20/2017 9:37:00 PM (view original):
That sounds about right, honestly. Assuming (super rough) 16 pitchers per inning, and using your min of 215 IP, they should be able to throw about 105 pitches every 5 games. If you want to throw them every four games, they would need to be around 85. Even a 250 IP pitcher would only be able to throw 95-100 pitches every 4 days. These may be slightly understated due to the 10% bump WIS allows, but that doesn't make a huge difference here.
Well, two of those were '02 Bernhard, who's at 270 IP. He should be able to go every 4 days. The lowest was '00 Pedro, which I can understand. He went further than I intended him to.
12/21/2017 9:25 AM
Nothing makes a huge difference but it all adds up. I happen to think good hitting pitchers are underrated, worth an extra $1 million or so (their salary is unaffected except for extreme averages). I haven't noticed as much increase in errors as others mention. and they can save stamina and glove I don't feel compelled to bat them 9th. at lower caps they're more useful save a bunch of stamina in various ways. No reason to bunt a pitcher who can hit I think bunting early is one of the worst percentage plays in baseball unless you're expecting a classic pitchers duel.
12/21/2017 12:47 PM (edited)
I agree with your stance on bunting when it comes to normal batters. I never bunt with hitters unless they are scrubs with subpar hitting stats. I have no problem bunting with a .200 hitting pitcher.
12/21/2017 1:05 PM
0-6 PM cycle. Two 0-5 teams. We're not in Round 1 anymore, Dorothy.
12/21/2017 2:41 PM
We're going to have something cool this year.

I reached out to support and, at the halfway mark, and at the end of the season, they'll be providing me with a csv that will allow me to create a trend chart in Google Sheets that I will share with our group. Basically, you'll be able to track, on a day by day level, how your rank (1-24) progressed and changed throughout the 2 months of the regular season.
12/21/2017 3:00 PM
Nice. Thanks for setting that up
12/21/2017 4:11 PM
That's cool. It will be interesting to watch my precipitous decline!
12/21/2017 6:40 PM
10-2 first 12 games, 17-19 since. The 17-19 is more reflective of my teams' true ability.
12/22/2017 2:29 PM
Posted by schwarze on 12/22/2017 2:29:00 PM (view original):
10-2 first 12 games, 17-19 since. The 17-19 is more reflective of my teams' true ability.
At least you have the 10-2. I have been 3-3 (6x) and 2-4 (2x) every set so far
12/22/2017 2:31 PM
This is ridiculous. I certainly didn't have illusions of winning this thing, but my teams are atrocious.
12/29/2017 4:32 PM
Posted by schwarze on 12/21/2017 9:21:00 AM (view original):
I set the sacrifice hit rating to "5" with all my pitchers (unless they are really good hitters). And I will pinch hit for pitchers in the late innings. Does the one or two plate appearances per game that a pitcher actually swings away make that much of a difference? That's about one extra hit about every four games (assuming 2 AB's per game at +0.120 avg diff).

I think if you are using 1800's batters (with those terrible fielding ratings), the difference between a deadball pitcher and a modern pitcher makes a huge difference in errors. I recently played in a league where I played all 1800's batters (A++ range with D fielding). I used modern pitchers. Their errors were 1/3 of their real life totals, while my opponents committed way more errors than expected.
schwarze, am interested in your definition of "really good hitters" might be? I tend to set all pitcher's sacrifice setting to "3" unless their is some compelling reason to go lower. "3" is standard and I don't want my (e.g.) .172 BA or .350 SLG pitcher bunting when he has some potential with the stick. Giving up an out never made too much sense to me.
12/29/2017 5:35 PM
Posted by Jtpsops on 12/29/2017 4:32:00 PM (view original):
This is ridiculous. I certainly didn't have illusions of winning this thing, but my teams are atrocious.
I've been watching your teams, primarily on the google sheet, and was surprised at their performances. On paper, the teams don't look to be as bad as they're performing. Your situation does appear to be an odd one.
12/29/2017 5:37 PM
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