The object of this league is to choose a pitcher who lost 20 games in season from this list on baseball-reference.com: https://www.baseball-reference.com/friv/20gameLosers.shtml., then build your best $90M team by twisting your chosen pitcher and his teammates from that season. Your chosen pitcher must be included on your roster, and you must use the park that your chosen team called home, or WIS park if your field in not available. No clones, DH, AAA, WW or trades. Teams will be aligned chronologically. Please join by posting your chosen pitcher's name, team and 20-loss season in this forum. Pitchers are exclusive, even if they had more than one 20-loss season. First come, first served. MLB120829.

Rule clarification: You may use any player who was active on your chosen team's roster for at least 1 game even if they are also being used as another owner's exclusive 20-game loser.

Rule clarification 2: If you choose a pitcher whose 20 losses were split between more than 1 team, you must chose one of those teams from which to create your roster.

Pitchers Chosen:
Larry Jackson, 1965 Cubs
Jesse Barnes, 1917 Braves
Steve Carlton, 1973 Phillies
Dick Ellsworth, 1966 Cubs
Mel Stottlemyre, 1966 Yankees
Stan Bahnsen, 1973 White Sox
Sad Sam Jones, 1919 Red Sox
Luis Tiant, 1969 Indians
Brian Kingman, 1980 A's
Clyde Wright, 1974 Brewers
Jerry Koosman, 1977 Mets
Mickey Lolich, 1974 Tigers
Howie Camnitz, 1913 Pirates
Jim Scott, 1913 White Sox
Bobo Newsom, 1941 Tigers
Robin Roberts, 1957 Phillies
Turk Farrell, 1962 Colt .45s
Cy Young, 1906 Americans
Jesse Haines, 1920 Cardinals
Wilbur Wood, 1973 White Sox
Jack Fisher, 1965 Mets
Rube Marquard, 1914 Giants
Denny McLain, 1971 Senators
Pedro Ramos, 1961 Twins

Waitlist:
1. forte4him

1973 Steve Carlton, please.

My fault soup...always happens when i pick a team before taking a closer look. I’m going to open up both Sad Sam Jones teams and take Hooks Dauss - 1920.

Thanks guys! 6 in so far. There are more than 200 20-game losers to choose from, and most of them can be competitive with a $90M roster cap. Please give it a look.

What if the guy we're interested in played on a team that didn't have 25 guys on the roster? Do we fill in the missing roster spots with $200K players?
Or are those guys/teams ineligible?

Posted by SophieGiants on 12/30/2017 10:44:00 PM (view original):
What if the guy we're interested in played on a team that didn't have 25 guys on the roster? Do we fill in the missing roster spots with $200K players?
Or are those guys/teams ineligible?

Good question, SG. I'm not allowing $200k exceptions, even though I realize that it rules out some older teams with short rosters.

Does your 20 game loser have to be the season in which he lost 20 games, or can you twist him as well?

Hey Soup...I'll try Stan Bahnsen - 1973 White Sox

I'll go with Sad Sam Jones - 1919 Boston Red Sox.

Posted by sinatra on 12/31/2017 11:59:00 AM (view original):
Does your 20 game loser have to be the season in which he lost 20 games, or can you twist him as well?

Thanks for the question. Yes, your 20 game loser can also be twisted to any season of his career.

Posted by 0soup4u on 12/31/2017 3:54:00 PM (view original):

Posted by sinatra on 12/31/2017 11:59:00 AM (view original):
Does your 20 game loser have to be the season in which he lost 20 games, or can you twist him as well?

Thanks for the question. Yes, your 20 game loser can also be twisted to any season of his career.

Thanks. I'll try Luis Tiant and the 1969 Cleveland Indians