league history.

Must have been some 20-something who never saw guys like Wilt or Kareem or Doc or lots of others who played prior to the age where dribbling doesn't require your hand to stay on top of the ball, where hopping, skipping, crabbing and other garbage is no longer travelling, where an extra point is awarded for shots from long distance, and where the NBA is watered-down with so many teams.

Actually no it was Charles Barkley, Shaq, Magic johnson, chris Webber, Kenny smith, Ernie Johnson, Gary Payton, and mike n Mike morning time.

A. Steph Curry who puts up better numbers
B. Michael.

Good god ppl need a hot take I guess.

C. Playoffs anyone?

These are just playoff records mind you...

Only guard in NBA history to lead his team in all 5 categories (points, rebounds, assists, steals, blocks) during a playoff series

• 1989 Eastern Conference Semifinals vs. New York Knicks

Jordan came close to leading all 5 categories in a playoff series on 3 more occasions

• 1991 Eastern Conference Semifinals vs. Philadelphia 76ers, (short 7 rebounds)
• 1993 Eastern Conference Finals vs. New York Knicks, (short 3 rebounds)
• 1997 Eastern Conference Semifinals vs. Atlanta Hawks, (short 2 assists)

Only player in NBA history to average at least 30 points, 6 rebounds, 5 assists, 2 steals in a playoff run (7 times)

• Jordan did this in the 1986, 1987, 1989, and 1990 Playoffs, and in the Bulls' 1991, 1992, and 1993 championship runs

Only player in NBA history to average at least 30 points, 6 rebounds, 6 assists, 2 steals in a playoff run (5 times)

• Jordan did this in the 1987, 1989, and 1990 Playoffs, and in the Bulls' 1991 and 1993 championship runs

Only player in NBA history to average at least 30 points, 6 rebounds, 6 assists in a title run (2 times)

• Jordan did this in the Bulls' 1991 and 1993 championship runs, while also averaging at least 2 steals in both of those runs

Averaged at least 30 points, 6 rebounds, 4 assists, 2 steals in a record 9 different playoff runs

• Jordan did this in each of his 9 playoff appearances from 1986 to 1995 (Jordan was retired during the 1994 Playoffs)
• Tracy McGrady is the only other player to average at least 30 points, 6 rebounds, 4 assists, 2 steals in a playoff run, when he lost in the first round of the 2003 Playoffs.

Only player in NBA history to shoot at least 38% on 3-point field goals in 3 NBA Finals runs (minimum 15 points per game and 1.5 three-point attempts per game)

• Jordan did this in the Bulls' 1991, 1992, and 1993 championship runs under the original 3-point line. He also did it in the 1996 championship run, but with a shorter 3-point line
• Four other players meet this criteria in multiple NBA Finals runs
  • Terry Porter (1990 and 1992)
  • Manu Ginobili (2005 and 2007)
  • Ray Allen (2008 and 2010)
  • Stephen Curry (2015 and 2016)

In the 1997 title run, Jordan led a championship team in all 5 main categories (points, rebounds, assists, steals, blocks) for the last 3 rounds of the 1997 Playoffs

• Hakeem Olajuwon is the only other player to do this, when he led the 1994 Rockets in all 5 main categories for the entire 4-round playoffs
• Jordan and Dennis Rodman tied with 133 rebounds (8.3 rpg) for the last 3 rounds.
• Jordan was 10 rebounds (0.53 rebounds per game) and 1 block (0.05 blocks per game) shy of leading the Bulls in all 5 categories for the entire 4-round playoffs

Only player in NBA history to lead a team to the championship with only one teammate averaging double figures in scoring

• In the Bulls' 1997 playoff run, Scottie Pippen averaged 19 points per game on 42% shooting. All other teammates of Jordan averaged under 8 points per game

FinalsEdit

Most Valuable Player awards: 6 (1991, 1992, 1993, 1996, 1997, 1998)

• Jordan was named MVP in every Finals appearance. He averaged 33.6 points, 6 rebounds and 6 assists per game for his Finals career.

Scoring 20 or more points in all games, career: 35 games

• Jordan and Rick Barry (10 games) are the only players in NBA history to score 20+ in every Finals game.

One of seven players to lead a team in 4 out of 5 categories for an NBA Finals

• Jordan led the 1991 Bulls in points, assists, steals, and blocks. This is the only time that a player has led a team in those 4 categories during an NBA Finals
• The other players to do this are Kareem Abdul-Jabbar (1974), Hakeem Olajuwon (1986), Magic Johnson (1987), Larry Bird (1987), Tim Duncan (2003, 2007), and LeBron James (2013, 2014)

Harden has a little work to do;)

only if we allow two steps and a bunny hop on the step back...

You left out that only one player has ever turned the ball over 13 times in a series deciding game.

Posted by copernicus on 4/16/2018 8:43:00 PM (view original):
only if we allow two steps and a bunny hop on the step back...

and allow them to rest by not playing any defense

Harden on one team Jordan on other. Same team mates (good bad or ugly). They have to guard one another what is stat line for each?

Posted by sappy on 4/19/2018 6:31:00 PM (view original):
Harden on one team Jordan on other. Same team mates (good bad or ugly). They have to guard one another what is stat line for each?

Jordan puts up something like 55pts, 7reb, 6ast, 8stl, 2to while shooting something like 21/29
Harden puts up something like 28pts, 8reb, 11ast, 1stl, 11to while shooting something like 6/29

Jordan's team wins the game 116-89.

2016-17 Houston Rockets

PLAYER	MIN	FGM/FGA	3PM/3PA	FTM/FTA	OREB	REB	AST	BLK	STL	TO	PF	TP
2016-17 James Harden*	37	6/20	1/9	3/4	3	10	10	1	0	6	2	16
2016-17 Trevor Ariza*	35	3/13	1/9	0/0	1	7	0	0	2	0	0	7
2016-17 Patrick Beverley*	32	3/11	2/7	0/0	3	5	4	1	0	1	1	8
2016-17 Ryan Anderson*	29	2/11	2/9	2/2	1	1	1	0	0	1	4	8
2016-17 Clint Capela*	26	9/14	0/0	0/1	7	13	0	0	1	2	1	18
2016-17 Sam Dekker	20	3/6	1/3	1/1	0	2	0	1	2	0	0	8
2016-17 Nene Hilario	17	2/3	0/0	1/2	0	4	1	1	1	2	0	5
2016-17 Montrezl Harrell	16	4/6	0/0	4/5	3	5	1	0	0	1	4	12
2016-17 Lou Williams	16	1/6	0/2	0/0	0	1	1	0	0	0	1	2
2016-17 Eric Gordon	11	0/1	0/0	0/0	0	0	0	0	0	0	1	0
2016-17 K.J. McDaniels	1	0/0	0/0	0/0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
TOTALS		33/91	7/39	11/15	18	48	18	4	6	13	14	84
		36.3%	17.9%	73.3%

1996-97 Chicago Bulls

PLAYER	MIN	FGM/FGA	3PM/3PA	FTM/FTA	OREB	REB	AST	BLK	STL	TO	PF	TP
1996-97 Michael Jordan*	38	15/32	1/4	6/6	1	11	3	0	2	3	2	37
1996-97 Scottie Pippen*	38	3/7	0/1	2/2	0	5	6	1	0	2	1	8
1996-97 Dennis Rodman*	36	2/5	0/1	2/2	3	14	2	0	0	0	0	6
1996-97 Luc Longley*	27	3/6	0/0	2/2	1	7	4	0	0	1	3	8
1996-97 Steve Kerr*	25	3/5	1/3	0/0	1	1	1	0	1	0	0	7
1996-97 Ron Harper	19	2/5	0/0	0/0	0	3	4	0	5	0	1	4
1996-97 Randy Brown	14	3/6	0/3	0/0	3	3	0	1	0	4	1	6
1996-97 Dickey Simpkins	11	3/5	0/0	0/2	1	3	0	1	0	1	1	6
1996-97 Bill Wennington	11	3/5	0/0	0/0	1	1	2	0	0	2	1	6
1996-97 Jud Buechler	8	1/3	0/0	0/0	1	2	1	1	0	0	0	2
1996-97 Jason Caffey	7	2/3	0/0	0/0	2	3	1	0	0	0	1	4
1996-97 Robert Parish	5	1/2	0/0	0/0	0	1	0	1	0	0	2	2
1996-97 Toni Kukoc	3	0/0	0/0	0/0	0	0	1	0	0	0	0	0
TOTALS		41/84	2/12	12/14	14	54	25	5	8	13	13	96
		48.8%	16.7%	85.7%

* - denotes game starter
Player of the Game
Michael Jordan (Chicago)

That's about right

2016-17 Houston Rockets

PLAYER	MIN	FGM/FGA	3PM/3PA	FTM/FTA	OREB	REB	AST	BLK	STL	TO	PF	TP
2016-17 James Harden*	42	8/23	0/9	3/4	0	7	16	0	7	8	3	19
2016-17 Trevor Ariza*	35	5/10	3/6	1/2	0	5	1	0	0	0	0	14
2016-17 Patrick Beverley*	31	4/12	2/6	0/0	1	5	4	3	0	3	2	10
2016-17 Ryan Anderson*	29	5/8	3/6	0/0	1	6	1	0	0	0	2	13
2016-17 Clint Capela*	24	8/11	0/0	1/2	1	6	0	2	0	1	0	17
2016-17 Sam Dekker	20	2/6	0/2	0/0	2	4	2	0	1	0	1	4
2016-17 Nene Hilario	19	3/5	0/0	0/0	0	4	1	1	3	1	2	6
2016-17 Lou Williams	17	4/8	1/4	0/0	1	2	2	0	0	0	1	9
2016-17 Montrezl Harrell	15	4/5	0/0	3/5	3	4	0	0	0	1	1	11
2016-17 Eric Gordon	6	0/1	0/1	0/0	0	2	1	0	0	0	0	0
2016-17 K.J. McDaniels	1	0/2	0/0	0/0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
TOTALS		43/91	9/34	8/13	9	45	28	6	11	14	12	103
		47.3%	26.5%	61.5%

1996-97 Chicago Bulls

PLAYER	MIN	FGM/FGA	3PM/3PA	FTM/FTA	OREB	REB	AST	BLK	STL	TO	PF	TP
1996-97 Michael Jordan*	43	17/33	3/5	8/8	1	9	3	1	2	6	0	45
1996-97 Scottie Pippen*	38	8/18	2/5	0/1	2	7	9	0	1	0	0	18
1996-97 Dennis Rodman*	35	3/8	0/0	0/0	5	19	6	1	0	3	3	6
1996-97 Luc Longley*	26	6/9	0/0	0/1	2	5	3	1	1	3	0	12
1996-97 Steve Kerr*	24	1/4	0/1	2/2	0	2	3	0	0	1	1	4
1996-97 Randy Brown	17	3/7	0/2	2/2	0	1	2	0	3	1	2	8
1996-97 Bill Wennington	14	1/2	0/0	1/1	0	0	1	0	0	0	0	3
1996-97 Ron Harper	12	3/5	1/3	0/0	0	3	2	0	0	0	1	7
1996-97 Jud Buechler	9	1/2	1/1	0/0	2	3	1	0	1	0	1	3
1996-97 Robert Parish	8	2/4	0/0	0/0	1	2	1	1	0	1	2	4
1996-97 Dickey Simpkins	7	0/0	0/0	0/0	0	3	0	0	0	0	0	0
1996-97 Jason Caffey	6	0/0	0/0	2/2	0	0	2	0	0	1	1	2
1996-97 Toni Kukoc	1	0/0	0/0	0/0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
TOTALS		45/92	7/17	15/17	13	54	33	4	8	16	11	112
		48.9%	41.2%	88.2%

* - denotes game starter
Player of the Game
Michael Jordan (Chicago)

wait wait wait... let's do it this way

PLAYER	MIN	FGM/FGA	3PM/3PA	FTM/FTA	OREB	REB	AST	BLK	STL	TO	PF	TP
2016-17 James Harden*	36	11/22	4/8	4/4	2	10	13	1	0	6	0	30
2016-17 Trevor Ariza*	34	3/12	3/10	3/3	1	6	2	0	2	0	1	12
2016-17 Patrick Beverley*	32	4/10	2/6	3/5	1	4	7	0	2	1	2	13
2016-17 Ryan Anderson*	29	2/7	2/5	0/0	2	7	2	0	0	1	1	6
2016-17 Clint Capela*	25	6/9	0/0	2/3	4	6	0	0	2	1	1	14
2016-17 Sam Dekker	17	3/5	0/0	0/0	0	0	0	0	0	0	1	6
2016-17 Nene Hilario	17	1/4	0/0	0/0	1	2	1	0	1	1	3	2
2016-17 Montrezl Harrell	17	4/5	0/0	0/0	1	3	1	0	0	4	2	8
2016-17 Lou Williams	16	3/8	2/5	0/0	0	2	1	0	0	1	1	8
2016-17 Eric Gordon	11	2/4	1/3	0/0	0	1	1	0	1	0	1	5
2016-17 K.J. McDaniels	2	0/0	0/0	0/0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
2016-17 Kyle Wiltjer	2	0/0	0/0	1/2	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	1
2016-17 Chinanu Onuaku	1	0/0	0/0	0/0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
2016-17 Corey Brewer	1	0/0	0/0	0/0	0	1	1	0	0	0	0	0
2016-17 Troy Williams	1	1/1	0/0	0/0	0	1	0	0	0	0	0	2
TOTALS		40/87	14/37	13/17	12	43	29	1	8	15	13	107
		46.0%	37.8%	76.5%

PLAYER	MIN	FGM/FGA	3PM/3PA	FTM/FTA	OREB	REB	AST	BLK	STL	TO	PF	TP
2016-17 Trevor Ariza*	35	3/10	2/8	0/0	1	7	1	0	0	3	2	8
1989-90 Michael Jordan*	33	13/21	1/1	2/3	1	9	4	0	7	5	4	29
2016-17 Ryan Anderson*	30	5/12	4/10	1/1	3	5	1	0	0	0	2	15
2016-17 Patrick Beverley*	30	3/5	3/3	2/2	2	6	4	2	1	1	4	11
2016-17 Clint Capela*	24	7/10	0/0	0/0	2	8	1	1	0	3	3	14
2016-17 Lou Williams	20	4/12	1/4	1/1	0	2	2	1	0	1	0	10
2016-17 Sam Dekker	18	3/4	0/0	0/0	2	5	1	0	1	1	0	6
2016-17 Nene Hilario	18	3/7	0/0	3/3	1	3	3	0	0	0	0	9
2016-17 Montrezl Harrell	17	2/3	0/0	0/0	2	4	2	1	0	0	1	4
2016-17 Eric Gordon	11	3/6	1/2	3/3	0	2	0	1	1	1	0	10
2016-17 K.J. McDaniels	3	1/2	0/0	0/0	0	1	0	0	0	0	1	2
2016-17 Corey Brewer	1	0/0	0/0	0/0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
TOTALS		47/92	12/28	12/13	14	52	19	6	10	15	17	118
		51.1%	42.9%	92.3%

* - denotes game starter

PLAYER	MIN	FGM/FGA	3PM/3PA	FTM/FTA	OREB	REB	AST	BLK	STL	TO	PF	TP
2016-17 Trevor Ariza*	36	7/12	4/8	1/3	0	3	1	0	1	1	0	19
2016-17 James Harden*	35	10/25	3/9	7/7	1	9	12	0	1	3	0	30
2016-17 Patrick Beverley*	31	4/7	2/3	2/2	1	9	3	0	1	0	3	12
2016-17 Ryan Anderson*	29	1/6	1/6	4/4	3	4	1	0	0	0	1	7
2016-17 Clint Capela*	22	2/4	0/0	3/6	0	3	3	1	0	1	5	7
2016-17 Montrezl Harrell	19	5/8	0/1	0/0	1	3	1	1	1	0	3	10
2016-17 Nene Hilario	18	5/7	0/0	2/2	1	3	2	0	1	0	0	12
2016-17 Lou Williams	17	3/9	2/4	3/3	0	2	0	0	0	1	1	11
2016-17 Sam Dekker	16	2/3	0/1	0/0	1	2	2	0	1	2	2	4
2016-17 Eric Gordon	13	0/1	0/0	2/2	0	1	0	0	0	1	0	2
2016-17 K.J. McDaniels	3	0/0	0/0	1/2	0	0	0	0	1	0	0	1
TOTALS		39/82	12/32	25/31	8	39	25	2	7	9	15	115
		47.6%	37.5%	80.6%

PLAYER	MIN	FGM/FGA	3PM/3PA	FTM/FTA	OREB	REB	AST	BLK	STL	TO	PF	TP
1989-90 Michael Jordan*	41	18/28	2/3	4/4	2	12	8	0	0	5	3	42
2016-17 Trevor Ariza*	36	3/8	2/5	2/3	0	5	3	0	0	3	2	10
2016-17 Patrick Beverley*	31	3/6	1/2	1/1	2	4	6	0	1	3	4	8
2016-17 Ryan Anderson*	29	3/6	1/4	4/5	1	4	3	0	1	0	2	11
2016-17 Clint Capela*	25	7/12	0/0	1/3	2	9	1	3	0	1	4	15
2016-17 Montrezl Harrell	19	8/12	0/0	0/0	3	7	1	0	0	0	2	16
2016-17 Sam Dekker	18	2/5	1/2	0/0	3	5	0	1	0	0	2	5
2016-17 Nene Hilario	16	2/3	0/0	0/0	0	2	0	0	0	0	4	4
2016-17 Lou Williams	12	0/4	0/2	2/2	0	0	1	0	0	1	1	2
2016-17 Eric Gordon	8	0/2	0/1	3/3	0	0	1	0	0	1	2	3
2016-17 K.J. McDaniels	6	0/2	0/1	0/0	1	3	0	0	1	0	1	0
TOTALS		46/88	7/20	17/21	14	51	24	4	3	14	27	116
		52.3%	35.0%	81.0%

* - denotes game starter

PLAYER	MIN	FGM/FGA	3PM/3PA	FTM/FTA	OREB	REB	AST	BLK	STL	TO	PF	TP
2016-17 James Harden*	37	10/17	4/7	4/6	2	10	9	1	0	5	3	28
2016-17 Trevor Ariza*	35	6/12	2/7	2/3	1	5	2	0	3	0	2	16
2016-17 Patrick Beverley*	32	3/12	1/5	0/0	1	7	4	0	1	3	1	7
2016-17 Ryan Anderson*	30	5/12	3/8	3/4	1	1	2	0	0	0	1	16
2016-17 Clint Capela*	27	7/11	0/0	3/4	1	2	2	0	2	0	3	17
2016-17 Sam Dekker	18	5/9	2/4	0/0	1	4	1	0	1	0	0	12
2016-17 Nene Hilario	17	0/1	0/1	2/2	1	4	2	2	0	4	2	2
2016-17 Montrezl Harrell	17	1/4	0/0	1/2	3	4	0	1	1	0	2	3
2016-17 Lou Williams	16	2/7	1/3	0/0	2	4	2	0	0	2	1	5
2016-17 Eric Gordon	11	2/2	1/1	0/0	0	2	2	0	0	1	0	5
2016-17 K.J. McDaniels	2	0/0	0/0	0/0	0	1	0	0	0	0	1	0
TOTALS		41/87	14/36	15/21	13	44	26	4	8	15	16	111
		47.1%	38.9%	71.4%

PLAYER	MIN	FGM/FGA	3PM/3PA	FTM/FTA	OREB	REB	AST	BLK	STL	TO	PF	TP
1989-90 Michael Jordan*	40	13/26	0/2	11/12	2	10	8	0	4	1	3	37
2016-17 Trevor Ariza*	35	2/7	0/4	0/0	0	7	0	0	2	0	2	4
2016-17 Patrick Beverley*	32	4/10	1/2	2/2	3	5	4	0	0	3	0	11
2016-17 Ryan Anderson*	31	8/14	3/7	0/0	4	8	0	0	0	1	2	19
2016-17 Clint Capela*	27	7/10	0/0	0/0	4	7	3	2	0	2	3	14
2016-17 Sam Dekker	17	2/4	1/2	0/0	0	4	0	0	0	0	1	5
2016-17 Montrezl Harrell	17	3/6	0/1	2/2	0	2	1	0	0	0	2	8
2016-17 Nene Hilario	17	4/5	0/0	3/3	1	2	1	0	2	2	1	11
2016-17 Lou Williams	16	2/5	1/1	1/2	0	2	1	0	1	0	1	6
2016-17 Eric Gordon	8	1/4	1/2	0/0	0	1	1	0	0	0	0	3
2016-17 K.J. McDaniels	1	0/0	0/0	0/0	0	0	0	0	0	0	1	0
TOTALS		46/91	7/21	19/21	14	48	19	2	9	9	16	118
		50.5%	33.3%	90.5%