Posted by gomiami1972 on 8/14/2018 3:35:00 PM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 8/14/2018 2:15:00 PM (view original):

Posted by cccp1014 on 8/14/2018 2:07:00 PM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 8/14/2018 2:02:00 PM (view original):
Also BL isn't a typical liberal. If you want to bunch wylie and I up as leftists then fine. That's equivalent to calling Trump a racist. Downplays actual crazies.

wylie is more moderate than you two. Remember our men in women's locker room debate.

This is true. Wylie is moderate. I am a liberal. BL is a leftist.

No. You call yourself a social democrat. That is not a liberal. That is a Leftist.

That's not necessarily true.

Posted by tangplay on 8/14/2018 4:29:00 PM (view original):

Posted by gomiami1972 on 8/14/2018 3:35:00 PM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 8/14/2018 2:15:00 PM (view original):

Posted by cccp1014 on 8/14/2018 2:07:00 PM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 8/14/2018 2:02:00 PM (view original):
Also BL isn't a typical liberal. If you want to bunch wylie and I up as leftists then fine. That's equivalent to calling Trump a racist. Downplays actual crazies.

wylie is more moderate than you two. Remember our men in women's locker room debate.

This is true. Wylie is moderate. I am a liberal. BL is a leftist.

No. You call yourself a social democrat. That is not a liberal. That is a Leftist.

That's not necessarily true.

Yes, Sir, it is. Liberalism and Social Democracy are not interchangeable terms. I'm not feeling very well at the moment or I would highlight the ways they diverge.

I don't see you doing any harm by claiming to be both. The time is coming soon enough when the internal power struggle between the liberals and the social democrats for control of the Democratic Party will come to a head. For the moment, these two disparate groups are still maintaining a tenuous alliance.

Tang, what are your thoughts on Antifa?

Posted by gomiami1972 on 8/14/2018 5:34:00 PM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 8/14/2018 4:29:00 PM (view original):

Posted by gomiami1972 on 8/14/2018 3:35:00 PM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 8/14/2018 2:15:00 PM (view original):

Posted by cccp1014 on 8/14/2018 2:07:00 PM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 8/14/2018 2:02:00 PM (view original):
Also BL isn't a typical liberal. If you want to bunch wylie and I up as leftists then fine. That's equivalent to calling Trump a racist. Downplays actual crazies.

wylie is more moderate than you two. Remember our men in women's locker room debate.

This is true. Wylie is moderate. I am a liberal. BL is a leftist.

No. You call yourself a social democrat. That is not a liberal. That is a Leftist.

That's not necessarily true.

Yes, Sir, it is. Liberalism and Social Democracy are not interchangeable terms. I'm not feeling very well at the moment or I would highlight the ways they diverge.

I don't see you doing any harm by claiming to be both. The time is coming soon enough when the internal power struggle between the liberals and the social democrats for control of the Democratic Party will come to a head. For the moment, these two disparate groups are still maintaining a tenuous alliance.

They may not be interchangeable but they aren’t terribly different. For instance, liberals might want a public option for health insurance while leftists may want Medicare for all.

Mechanically, those ideas are very different but, ideologically, they are coming from the same place: improving access to healthcare through taxation and government programs instead of relying only on the private market.

Posted by cccp1014 on 8/14/2018 3:35:00 PM (view original):

Posted by wylie715 on 8/14/2018 3:27:00 PM (view original):
ugly and stupid?

LOL. That has not changed.

you said it, not me! LOL

Posted by tangplay on 8/14/2018 3:32:00 PM (view original):

Posted by wylie715 on 8/14/2018 3:27:00 PM (view original):
ugly and stupid?

Bit harsh?

you're right.... I have no idea if BL is ugly.

Posted by bad_luck on 8/14/2018 5:54:00 PM (view original):

Posted by gomiami1972 on 8/14/2018 5:34:00 PM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 8/14/2018 4:29:00 PM (view original):

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Posted by cccp1014 on 8/14/2018 2:07:00 PM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 8/14/2018 2:02:00 PM (view original):
Also BL isn't a typical liberal. If you want to bunch wylie and I up as leftists then fine. That's equivalent to calling Trump a racist. Downplays actual crazies.

wylie is more moderate than you two. Remember our men in women's locker room debate.

This is true. Wylie is moderate. I am a liberal. BL is a leftist.

No. You call yourself a social democrat. That is not a liberal. That is a Leftist.

That's not necessarily true.

Yes, Sir, it is. Liberalism and Social Democracy are not interchangeable terms. I'm not feeling very well at the moment or I would highlight the ways they diverge.

I don't see you doing any harm by claiming to be both. The time is coming soon enough when the internal power struggle between the liberals and the social democrats for control of the Democratic Party will come to a head. For the moment, these two disparate groups are still maintaining a tenuous alliance.

They may not be interchangeable but they aren’t terribly different. For instance, liberals might want a public option for health insurance while leftists may want Medicare for all.

Mechanically, those ideas are very different but, ideologically, they are coming from the same place: improving access to healthcare through taxation and government programs instead of relying only on the private market.

A cogent answer that I won't attack. Taken to its logical conclusion, they are vastly different. However, for many of the intermediate steps, I concede convergence.

Leftists want men to be able to identify as women or vice versa. They stupidly believe that you can change your biological gender.Leftists support Anfita and BLM, terror groups. Leftists lash out at those that have the audacity to disagree with them. Leftists support BDS. Lefitsts wants higher taxes on the rich and more programs for the lazy, I mean poor. Leftists believe that being white is awful. Leftists want open borders. Leftists are pro choice and believe pro life people are dumb bible thumpers. Leftists want the 2nd amendment repealed.

In my opinion this is what a Leftist is. They are basically Fascists.

Posted by cccp1014 on 8/14/2018 6:42:00 PM (view original):
Leftists want men to be able to identify as women or vice versa. They stupidly believe that you can change your biological gender.Leftists support Anfita and BLM, terror groups. Leftists lash out at those that have the audacity to disagree with them. Leftists support BDS. Lefitsts wants higher taxes on the rich and more programs for the lazy, I mean poor. Leftists believe that being white is awful. Leftists want open borders. Leftists are pro choice and believe pro life people are dumb bible thumpers. Leftists want the 2nd amendment repealed.

In my opinion this is what a Leftist is. They are basically Fascists.

I think you smoked yourself retarded.

Posted by bad_luck on 8/14/2018 6:43:00 PM (view original):

Posted by cccp1014 on 8/14/2018 6:42:00 PM (view original):
Leftists want men to be able to identify as women or vice versa. They stupidly believe that you can change your biological gender.Leftists support Anfita and BLM, terror groups. Leftists lash out at those that have the audacity to disagree with them. Leftists support BDS. Lefitsts wants higher taxes on the rich and more programs for the lazy, I mean poor. Leftists believe that being white is awful. Leftists want open borders. Leftists are pro choice and believe pro life people are dumb bible thumpers. Leftists want the 2nd amendment repealed.

In my opinion this is what a Leftist is. They are basically Fascists.

I think you smoked yourself retarded.

Why? Because I described you perfectly. Tell me again how good of a job Obama would do coaching the Celtics. LOL. I already proved he was a sub par POTUS.

I know English is your second language but you might want to review the definition of “proved” like 200 more times.

I gave you data to support my argument and you did not deny any of it. Tangplay, your fellow Leftist agreed all 10 facts were accurate. Case closed. Why 200 more times? Arbitrary number.

Posted by cccp1014 on 8/14/2018 7:07:00 PM (view original):
I gave you data to support my argument and you did not deny any of it. Tangplay, your fellow Leftist agreed all 10 facts were accurate. Case closed. Why 200 more times? Arbitrary number.

LOL. That’s not proof.

Sorry to break it to you.

Posted by cccp1014 on 8/14/2018 6:46:00 PM (view original):

Posted by bad_luck on 8/14/2018 6:43:00 PM (view original):

Posted by cccp1014 on 8/14/2018 6:42:00 PM (view original):
Leftists want men to be able to identify as women or vice versa. They stupidly believe that you can change your biological gender.Leftists support Anfita and BLM, terror groups. Leftists lash out at those that have the audacity to disagree with them. Leftists support BDS. Lefitsts wants higher taxes on the rich and more programs for the lazy, I mean poor. Leftists believe that being white is awful. Leftists want open borders. Leftists are pro choice and believe pro life people are dumb bible thumpers. Leftists want the 2nd amendment repealed.

In my opinion this is what a Leftist is. They are basically Fascists.

I think you smoked yourself retarded.

Why? Because I described you perfectly. Tell me again how good of a job Obama would do coaching the Celtics. LOL. I already proved he was a sub par POTUS.

you gave your opinion that he was a sub par president and your reasons for thinking so, but you did not prove anything.

Posted by gomiami1972 on 8/14/2018 5:34:00 PM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 8/14/2018 4:29:00 PM (view original):

Posted by gomiami1972 on 8/14/2018 3:35:00 PM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 8/14/2018 2:15:00 PM (view original):

Posted by cccp1014 on 8/14/2018 2:07:00 PM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 8/14/2018 2:02:00 PM (view original):
Also BL isn't a typical liberal. If you want to bunch wylie and I up as leftists then fine. That's equivalent to calling Trump a racist. Downplays actual crazies.

wylie is more moderate than you two. Remember our men in women's locker room debate.

This is true. Wylie is moderate. I am a liberal. BL is a leftist.

No. You call yourself a social democrat. That is not a liberal. That is a Leftist.

That's not necessarily true.

Yes, Sir, it is. Liberalism and Social Democracy are not interchangeable terms. I'm not feeling very well at the moment or I would highlight the ways they diverge.

I don't see you doing any harm by claiming to be both. The time is coming soon enough when the internal power struggle between the liberals and the social democrats for control of the Democratic Party will come to a head. For the moment, these two disparate groups are still maintaining a tenuous alliance.

OK, hold on, hold on. I was talking on the political spectrum of left/right. In terms of ideology, I am not a liberal. I am further right than BL.