Round 1 Standings, 2018 Topic

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Rank Owner Points Max Points Projections
Pre Season Playoff Overall Season Playoffs Penalty Total Started Current Total Rank Pts Back
4 1 1 1 ozomatli 594 65 659 780 718 675 1 0
1 2 3 2 brianjw 579 57 636 765 734 660 2 7.5
6 3 4 3 buddhagamer 578 51 629 764 702 658 3 8.5
9 9 2 4 jmissirlis 561 59 620 716 716 629 8 23
2 3 13 5 discodemo 578 37 615 702 671 632 6 21.5
7 5 5 6 mildnhazy 566 47 613 721 659 634 4 20.5
8 7 6 7 jfranco77 564 46 610 719 657 631 7 22
5 8 8 8 jbohrman 562 45 607 686 655 616 9 29.5
32 6 10 9 wink0094 565 39 604 720 627 633 5 21
17 12 6 10 crystalao 546 46 592 701 639 614 10 30.5
28 10 15 11 mpitt76 549 32 581 673 580 603 11 36
3 13 8 12 rbow923 534 45 579 658 627 588 13 43.5
16 10 17 13 justinlee_24 549 25 574 642 580 589 12 43
10 14 10 14 dougpalm 528 39 567 652 621 582 14 46.5
35 18 14 15 odalisgagne 515 33 548 608 577 555 16 60
13 15 22 16 dippedncrack / schwarze 523 24 547 616 585 564 15 55.5
22 22 10 17 redcped 506 39 545 599 599 547 18 64
30 16 30 18 bothways 519 18 537 581 550 546 21 64.5
33 19 26 19 ejstockman 514 19 533 576 545 541 25
50 22 17 20 mick33 506 25 531 599 537 547 18 64
20 17 33 21 mdc2276 516 13 529 578 578 542 24 66.5
40 26 17 22 Jdh34 503 25 528 596 565 543 23 66
41 19 39 23 cubbies84 514 12 526 576 514 541 25
44 21 32 24 Humdogs 509 16 525 602 571 549 17 63
12 25 26 25 bighooze 504 19 523 597 566 544 22 65.5
24 22 26 25 newarkwilder 506 19 2 523 566 535 531 27
26 38 16 27 Donburgh 487 31 518 580 580 527 30
48 28 30 28 thehuseman 498 18 516 560 560 525 31
51 30 24 29 jetscanes 494 21 515 618 525 547 18 64
38 35 17 30 donaldjtrump 489 25 514 582 551 530 28
27 38 22 31 magicdreamer 487 24 511 580 580 528 29
11 27 43 32 shaybee 502 7 509 533 533 516 32
36 32 33 33 jjgreen14 493 13 6 500 549 518 514 33
18 40 33 34 mllama54 486 13 499 517 517 500 39
39 30 51 34 NebHusker 494 5 499 525 494 507 35
23 35 43 36 cstrohmier 489 7 496 520 520 502 37
49 34 51 37 toddcommish 490 5 495 521 521 504 36
31 37 46 38 frank_drebin 488 6 494 519 519 501 38
29 29 55 39 ledfoot 496 0 4 492 492 492 492 43
66 46 17 39 npg32433 468 25 1 492 560 498 508 34
25 41 55 41 tigerrott 485 0 485 485 485 485 44
53 45 39 42 sjh0825 472 12 484 534 472 499 41
46 32 33 43 sprintracer 493 13 23 483 532 532 497 42
59 43 42 43 hurst47 473 10 483 535 473 500 39
65 54 26 45 Pebo 457 19 476 519 488 484 45
47 50 33 46 The Taint 462 13 475 493 493 476 48
54 50 33 46 zlionsfan 462 13 475 493 493 476 48
60 42 55 46 thebubbaq 475 0 475 475 475 475 50
15 46 46 49 homiealiens 468 6 474 499 499 482 46
19 43 55 50 markeking 473 0 473 473 473 473 54
61 49 46 51 happyhours 464 6 470 495 495 478 47
21 46 55 52 calhoop 468 0 468 468 468 468 55
67 60 25 52 garmansouth 448 20 468 510 479 475 50
63 52 51 54 mars2010 460 5 465 491 460 474 53
43 60 41 55 Jtpsops 448 11 459 510 510 475 50
56 53 55 55 thejuice6 459 0 459 459 459 459 59
68 57 46 57 midknight 452 6 458 483 452 466 56
37 55 55 58 kyleb63 456 0 456 456 456 456 61
14 58 46 59 Fusion27s 449 6 455 480 449 463 57
55 56 55 60 nordawg 454 0 454 454 454 454 62
34 62 51 61 beauchamp 447 5 452 478 447 461 58
57 64 43 62 gigrant 443 7 450 474 443 457 60
42 58 55 63 Chisock 449 0 449 449 449 449 63
62 63 55 64 sionnach99 444 0 444 444 444 444 64
52 65 55 65 trd3 426 0 426 426 426 426 65
64 66 55 66 loyalcanuck 423 0 423 423 423 423 66
45 67 55 67 DarthDurron 416 0 416 416 416 416 67
58 68 55 68 scottharra 415 0 415 415 415 415 68
71 69 55 69 scthallfan 400 0 400 400 400 400 69
69 70 55 70 deathdealer 398 0 398 398 398 398 70
72 71 55 71 spoonfed 312 0 312 312 312 312 71
70 72 55 72 tridentric 302 0 302 302 302 302 72
10/15/2018 2:04 AM
Posted by ozomatli on 10/14/2018 1:50:00 AM (view original):
Standings are updated.

Tough day for jetscanes as he's already down 2 of his 4 playoff teams. He'll need to do well with the other two to have a shot at Round 2.
Four playoff teams combine to go 1-12 and all are bounced in the first round. So long to any hopes of Round 2.
10/15/2018 1:24 PM
Standings updated.

Pre-Rank Playoff Rank Owner Points
Total Per Team Max 65M 90M 100M 110M 130M 255M
4 1 ozomatli 69 11.5 124 7 16 14 13 13 6
1 2 brianjw 68 11.33 155 13 15 7 14 6 13
9 2 jmissirlis 68 13.6 155 13 13 15 13 14
7 4 mildnhazy 57 11.4 93 13 7 15 15 7
8 4 jfranco77 57 11.4 93 13 16 7 15 6
6 6 buddhagamer 55 9.17 62 15 15 5 6 7 7
5 7 jbohrman 50 12.5 93 6 15 15 14
17 7 crystalao 50 10 62 14 7 7 6 16
3 9 rbow923 47 11.75 93 14 14 6 13
32 10 wink0094 45 9 62 13 7 7 5 13
10 11 dougpalm 43 10.75 62 7 15 15 6
2 12 discodemo 42 10.5 93 15 6 6 15
22 12 redcped 42 14 93 14 14 14
26 14 Donburgh 36 12 93 14 7 15
35 14 odalisgagne 36 12 62 15 14 7
28 16 mpitt76 33 8.25 31 5 7 14 7
38 17 donaldjtrump 32 10.67 62 14 5 13
40 17 Jdh34 32 10.67 62 13 14 5
44 19 Humdogs 31 10.33 62 13 13 5
16 20 justinlee_24 27 9 31 5 7 15
27 20 magicdreamer 27 9 62 6 7 14
50 20 mick33 27 9 31 7 15 5
20 23 mdc2276 26 13 62 13 13
13 24 dippedncrack / schwarze 25 8.33 31 6 5 14
66 24 npg32433 25 8.33 31 13 7 5
67 26 garmansouth 22 11 31 7 15
24 27 newarkwilder 21 10.5 31 6 15
33 27 ejstockman 21 10.5 31 15 6
51 27 jetscanes 21 5.25 0 6 5 5 5
46 30 sprintracer 20 10 31 13 7
65 30 Pebo 20 10 31 6 14
12 32 bighooze 19 6.33 0 7 7 5
30 32 bothways 19 9.5 31 14 5
43 32 Jtpsops 19 9.5 62 6 13
48 32 thehuseman 19 9.5 31 5 14
18 36 mllama54 15 15 31 15
47 37 The Taint 14 14 31 14
11 38 shaybee 13 13 31 13
23 38 cstrohmier 13 13 31 13
36 38 jjgreen14 13 6.5 0 6 7
54 38 zlionsfan 13 13 31 13
41 42 cubbies84 12 6 0 5 7
53 42 sjh0825 12 6 0 7 5
59 44 hurst47 10 5 0 5 5
57 45 gigrant 7 7 0 7
14 46 Fusion27s 6 6 0 6
15 46 homiealiens 6 6 0 6
31 46 frank_drebin 6 6 0 6
49 46 toddcommish 6 6 31 6
61 46 happyhours 6 6 0 6
68 46 midknight 6 6 0 6
34 52 beauchamp 5 5 0 5
39 52 NebHusker 5 5 0 5
63 52 mars2010 5 5 0 5
19 55 markeking 0 0 0
21 55 calhoop 0 0 0
25 55 tigerrott 0 0 0
29 55 ledfoot 0 0 0
37 55 kyleb63 0 0 0
42 55 Chisock 0 0 0
45 55 DarthDurron 0 0 0
52 55 trd3 0 0 0
55 55 nordawg 0 0 0
56 55 thejuice6 0 0 0
58 55 scottharra 0 0 0
60 55 thebubbaq 0 0 0
62 55 sionnach99 0 0 0
64 55 loyalcanuck 0 0 0
69 55 deathdealer 0 0 0
70 55 tridentric 0 0 0
71 55 scthallfan 0 0 0
72 55 spoonfed 0 0 0
10/16/2018 1:53 AM
Rank Owner Points Max Projections
Pre Season Playoff Overall Season Playoffs Penalty Total Started Total Rank Relative
4 1 1 1 ozomatli 594 69 663 780 675 1 -12
1 2 2 2 brianjw 579 68 647 765 660 2 -13
6 3 6 3 buddhagamer 578 55 633 764 658 3 -25
9 9 2 4 jmissirlis 561 68 629 716 629 8 0
7 5 4 5 mildnhazy 566 57 623 721 634 4 -11
8 7 4 6 jfranco77 564 57 621 719 631 7 -10
2 3 12 7 discodemo 578 42 620 702 632 6 -12
5 8 7 8 jbohrman 562 50 612 686 616 9 -4
32 6 10 9 wink0094 565 45 610 720 633 5 -23
17 12 7 10 crystalao 546 50 596 701 614 10 -18
28 10 16 11 mpitt76 549 33 582 673 603 11 -21
3 13 9 12 rbow923 534 47 581 658 588 13 -7
16 10 20 13 justinlee_24 549 27 576 642 589 12 -13
10 14 11 14 dougpalm 528 43 571 652 582 14 -11
35 18 14 15 odalisgagne 515 36 551 608 555 16 -4
13 15 24 16 dippedncrack / schwarze 523 25 548 616 564 15 -16
22 22 12 16 redcped 506 42 548 599 547 18 1
20 17 23 18 mdc2276 516 26 542 578 542 24 0
44 21 19 19 Humdogs 509 31 540 602 549 17 -9
30 16 32 20 bothways 519 19 538 581 546 21 -8
33 19 27 21 ejstockman 514 21 535 576 541 25 -6
40 26 17 21 Jdh34 503 32 535 596 543 23 -8
50 22 20 23 mick33 506 27 533 599 547 18 -14
41 19 42 24 cubbies84 514 12 526 576 541 25 -15
24 22 27 25 newarkwilder 506 21 2 525 566 531 27 -6
12 25 32 26 bighooze 504 19 523 597 544 22 -21
26 38 14 26 Donburgh 487 36 523 580 527 30 -4
38 35 17 28 donaldjtrump 489 32 521 582 530 28 -9
48 28 32 29 thehuseman 498 19 517 560 525 31 -8
11 27 38 30 shaybee 502 13 515 533 516 32 -1
51 30 27 30 jetscanes 494 21 515 618 547 18 -32
27 38 20 32 magicdreamer 487 27 514 580 528 29 -14
23 35 38 33 cstrohmier 489 13 502 520 502 37 0
18 40 36 34 mllama54 486 15 501 517 500 39 1
36 32 38 35 jjgreen14 493 13 6 500 549 514 33 -14
39 30 52 36 NebHusker 494 5 499 525 507 35 -8
49 34 46 37 toddcommish 490 6 496 521 504 36 -8
31 37 46 38 frank_drebin 488 6 494 519 501 38 -7
29 29 55 39 ledfoot 496 0 4 492 492 492 43
66 46 24 39 npg32433 468 25 1 492 560 508 34 -16
46 32 30 41 sprintracer 493 20 23 490 532 497 42 -7
25 41 55 42 tigerrott 485 0 485 485 485 44
53 45 42 43 sjh0825 472 12 484 534 499 41 -15
59 43 44 44 hurst47 473 10 483 535 500 39 -17
65 54 30 45 Pebo 457 20 477 519 484 45 -7
47 50 37 46 The Taint 462 14 476 493 476 48 0
54 50 38 47 zlionsfan 462 13 475 493 476 48 -1
60 42 55 47 thebubbaq 475 0 475 475 475 50
15 46 46 49 homiealiens 468 6 474 499 482 46 -8
19 43 55 50 markeking 473 0 473 473 473 54
61 49 46 51 happyhours 464 6 470 495 478 47 -8
67 60 26 51 garmansouth 448 22 470 510 475 50 -5
21 46 55 53 calhoop 468 0 468 468 468 55
43 60 32 54 Jtpsops 448 19 467 510 475 50 -8
63 52 52 55 mars2010 460 5 465 491 474 53 -9
56 53 55 56 thejuice6 459 0 459 459 459 59
68 57 46 57 midknight 452 6 458 483 466 56 -8
37 55 55 58 kyleb63 456 0 456 456 456 61
14 58 46 59 Fusion27s 449 6 455 480 463 57 -8
55 56 55 60 nordawg 454 0 454 454 454 62
34 62 52 61 beauchamp 447 5 452 478 461 58 -9
57 64 45 62 gigrant 443 7 450 474 457 60 -7
42 58 55 63 Chisock 449 0 449 449 449 63
62 63 55 64 sionnach99 444 0 444 444 444 64
52 65 55 65 trd3 426 0 426 426 426 65
64 66 55 66 loyalcanuck 423 0 423 423 423 66
45 67 55 67 DarthDurron 416 0 416 416 416 67
58 68 55 68 scottharra 415 0 415 415 415 68
71 69 55 69 scthallfan 400 0 400 400 400 69
69 70 55 70 deathdealer 398 0 398 398 398 70
72 71 55 71 spoonfed 312 0 312 312 312 71
70 72 55 72 tridentric 302 0 302 302 302 72
10/16/2018 1:54 AM
redcped and mllama54 are the first people to outperform their playoff point predictions
10/16/2018 2:09 AM
jmissirlis went 5/5 in the LDS
10/16/2018 2:09 AM
Also, today claimed some victims.

cubbies84, jjgreen14 and bighooze (#12 Pre-Rank) are OUT.
Plenty of people between 16th and 34th only have one playoff team left. Tomorrow may claim a bunch more.
Rank Owner Playoffs
Teams Alive Points
1 ozomatli 6 4 69
2 brianjw 6 5 68
3 buddhagamer 6 2 55
4 jmissirlis 5 5 68
5 mildnhazy 5 3 57
6 jfranco77 5 3 57
7 discodemo 4 3 42
8 jbohrman 4 3 50
9 wink0094 5 2 45
10 crystalao 5 2 50
11 mpitt76 4 1 33
12 rbow923 4 3 47
13 justinlee_24 3 1 27
14 dougpalm 4 2 43
15 odalisgagne 3 2 36
16 dippedncrack / schwarze 3 1 25
16 redcped 3 3 42
18 mdc2276 2 2 26
19 Humdogs 3 2 31
20 bothways 2 1 19
21 ejstockman 2 1 21
21 Jdh34 3 2 32
23 mick33 3 1 27
24 cubbies84 2 0 12
25 newarkwilder 2 1 21
26 bighooze 3 0 19
26 Donburgh 3 3 36
28 donaldjtrump 3 2 32
29 thehuseman 2 1 19
30 shaybee 1 1 13
30 jetscanes 4 0 21
32 magicdreamer 3 2 27
33 cstrohmier 1 1 13
34 mllama54 1 1 15
35 jjgreen14 2 0 13
36 NebHusker 1 0 5
37 toddcommish 1 1 6
38 frank_drebin 1 0 6
39 ledfoot 0 0 0
39 npg32433 3 1 25
41 sprintracer 2 1 20
42 tigerrott 0 0 0
43 sjh0825 2 0 12
44 hurst47 2 0 10
45 Pebo 2 1 20
46 The Taint 1 1 14
47 zlionsfan 1 1 13
47 thebubbaq 0 0 0
49 homiealiens 1 0 6
50 markeking 0 0 0
51 happyhours 1 0 6
51 garmansouth 2 1 22
53 calhoop 0 0 0
54 Jtpsops 2 2 19
55 mars2010 1 0 5
56 thejuice6 0 0 0
57 midknight 1 0 6
58 kyleb63 0 0 0
59 Fusion27s 1 0 6
60 nordawg 0 0 0
61 beauchamp 1 0 5
62 gigrant 1 0 7
63 Chisock 0 0 0
64 sionnach99 0 0 0
65 trd3 0 0 0
66 loyalcanuck 0 0 0
67 DarthDurron 0 0 0
68 scottharra 0 0 0
69 scthallfan 0 0 0
70 deathdealer 0 0 0
71 spoonfed 0 0 0
72 tridentric 0 0 0
10/16/2018 2:33 AM (edited)
Personally, this is why I plan to make changes to the playoff point system. I forgot to do it this year. Basically, the rich tend to get richer.

Already, there's a decent correlation (.632) between Playoff Points per Playoff Team (effectively, a way to measure how good an owner's teams have performed in the playoffs) and Regular Season Win Total. This will only increase, since most of the high-performing owners have more teams left alive in general.

Next year, there will be changes to the playoff point structure. The result will likely be that there are fewer points available. The tricky part is doing it in a way that still preserves the drama that comes with the current structure.
10/16/2018 2:17 AM
One thing I have been thinking about is subtracting points for playoff losses.

So, if you win a series 4-0, you get a 4 point boost. If you win a series 4-3, though, you only get a 1 point boost. If you lost a series, you'd simply get 0 points (i.e. you wouldn't lose points -- that feels a bit too out there).

Combined with reducing the amount of points for winning various series and/or making the playoffs in the first place (approach TBD), I think this could be effective. After this round, I'm going to check what the difference would have been to evaluate it.

I will evaluate some other approaches as well, such as removing the 5 point bonus you get for winning a series
10/16/2018 2:31 AM (edited)
I think the bonus playoff points helps offset the possibility of one team "ruining" your chance to make the cage. In addition, it makes them much more exciting and meaningful, which it should IMO. Perhaps tweaking it so that the points that carry over to Round 2 are lessened (the rich not getting so much richer), while keeping the playoff point structure in a way that movement can fluctuate to give more teams a dream as long as possible. Just food for thought...
10/16/2018 10:30 AM
I agree. I like the current structure as it gives team hope. Sure, it creates a bigger gap between the elite owners and those below, but this is partially offset by the weighting of Round 2 points. If you reduce playoff points, then it drastically reduces the number of teams that still have a shot at Round 2 come playoff time.

Have you ever given any thought to resetting points after Round 1 and having Round 2 points decide the winner? It'd be interesting to see how different the various Top 24 rankings would look if only Round 2 points were counted.
10/16/2018 12:18 PM
Counting Round 1 points as .5 points in the final score does lessen that gap, but then the gap rears itself again during the Round 2 playoffs.

I don't think I would remove Round 1 entirely. It is meant to do more than just be a binary value to see did you get in or not. Performance in Round 1 should be considered when deciding who was the best owner this year
10/16/2018 12:29 PM
I think I've said this before, but I think the solution here is to keep 1 point/win, drop all the 5 point bonuses, and have a 10 point bonus for winning the WS.

The problem now is not that the rich get richer, it's that what you end up rewarding is being like the Maddox-era Atlanta teams, constantly winning the LDS, then going under .500 the rest of the way. Removing all those 5 point bonuses stops that. It's especially bad because it's relatively easy to mimic those teams. Stack up on Milacki/Hill/etc types, run all of them out in the LDS, then go .400 the rest of the way with what's left, and you end up with way more points than most other strategies. But that's not a good way to play playoff baseball. And do we want teams like those Atlanta teams to score better than, say, the early 2010s Giants?

You do want some bonuses. You want people to still have a chance to make big jumps. If it's still 21 points for winning a WS (11 wins + 10 bonus), then every playoff team gives you lots of chances to make a big leap. So you still have drama. But you have it where you should have it - in the WS, not in all the LDSs.

This is not a change that would help me, by the way. Mostly I've done well by feasting in the LDS, and then occasionally getting a bit lucky in later rounds. But I think it would make a better tournament.
10/16/2018 1:08 PM
I am biased due to my lack of consistent playoff success - but I feel like the playoffs are such a crapshoot that we should minimize its impact on the overall standings as much as possible.
10/16/2018 1:52 PM
I do agree that mobility via the playoffs should be possible -- it helps maintain interest and create drama (which is good for the tournament as a whole).

I think my main problem with handing out too many bonus points is related to MNH's point. Not only does luck factor into success in the playoffs (which we can mitigate by removing the 5 point series-win bonuses), but also by just who gets in in the first place. Why should the owner of a 95 win team be punished for having two 100+ win teams in it's division, while an 81 win team wins another division and has a chance to accumulate points? I struggle with rectifying that from a philosophical perspective.
10/16/2018 4:03 PM
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