White Privilege Topic

100% based on personal opinion/logic/dominance but you can expand to top 20 of all time:
  1. Kevin Durant
  2. Charley Barkley
  3. Oscar Robertson
  4. Shaq
  5. Hakeeem
  6. Dirk
  7. Elgin Baylor
  8. Scottie Pippen
  9. Karl Malone
  10. Kevin McHale
Still 8/10 are black so that is 17 out of top 20 who are black or 85%. If you take current players, it will be like 100%, right?
8/28/2018 1:19 PM
Argue/debate about basketball players. It's harmless, fun, has no real answer as it's so subjective and nobody ends up looking stupid........... well, except Tangy.............. trying to elevate Magic is nuts.

Top 10 Basketball Players based on skill level and winning at the highest level.

#1. Bill Russell
2. Hakeem
3, LBJ
4. Jordan
5. KAJ
6. Larry Bird
7. Oscar Robertson
8. Wilt
9. Dennis Johnson
10. Stephen Curry or KD (depending on their relative future careers)

Honorable mentions to Elgin Baylor, Karl Malone, and Kevin Mchale
8/28/2018 2:45 PM (edited)
So, Boris........... you want us to make a top 10 list for all white players?? Will that make you feel better? :-)
8/28/2018 2:43 PM
Posted by laramiebob on 8/28/2018 2:43:00 PM (view original):
So, Boris........... you want us to make a top 10 list for all white players?? Will that make you feel better? :-)
No. I am Not sure why it is taboo to state that black players more often than not are better?
8/28/2018 2:51 PM
Posted by cccp1014 on 8/28/2018 2:51:00 PM (view original):
Posted by laramiebob on 8/28/2018 2:43:00 PM (view original):
So, Boris........... you want us to make a top 10 list for all white players?? Will that make you feel better? :-)
No. I am Not sure why it is taboo to state that black players more often than not are better?
It’s not taboo to say the best players of all time were black. It’s dumb to say that blacks are inherently better at basketball.
8/28/2018 4:04 PM (edited)
Posted by tangplay on 8/28/2018 1:02:00 PM (view original):
Posted by cccp1014 on 8/28/2018 12:24:00 PM (view original):
Posted by tangplay on 8/28/2018 12:08:00 PM (view original):
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Posted by cccp1014 on 8/28/2018 10:52:00 AM (view original):
Posted by tangplay on 8/28/2018 9:55:00 AM (view original):
Then racists would be right.
Not my point. If as it is in the NBA the best players are African Americans and if the team decided to go down the equality path the teams would not be as good. We agree.

So let's say the discrepancy in wages is because capitalism is playing its role and everybody is paid fairly. Some people are just better at those jobs and they are white, Asian, Jewish, etc.

Playing Devil's Advocate. People could be wasting their time fighting a battle that does not need to be fought. Correct?

Ok so first off we know that capitalism doesn't pay wages perfectly fairly and second, black people aren't naturally better at football, there are tons of factors besides natural athleticism.
I said the NBA not football. Top 30 NBA prospects right now are African American. NBAdraft.net

African Americans are better at the sport. Define "fair"? Under capitalism if you don't like your wage you can quit and work elsewhere? The market determines your wage. Yes?
You think black people are naturally better at basketball? White people have a naturally better culture?

You really think the USA is a meritocracy?
I think yes, they are naturally better at hoops. I don't think white people have a better culture. Have you been to Mississippi? USA is as close to a meritocracy as you will find in the civilized world, IMO.
Yes, there are more successful black players. Again, TONS of factors can explain this. If the roles were reversed (as in everything swapped besides skin color) white people would be the primary players in the NBA. White people dominate baseball and soccer. There are reasons for this.

Also, we are not a meritocracy.
MLB WAR leaders 2018:
Mookie Betts -
Mike Trout
Jose Ramirez
Jacob DeGrom
Max Scherzer
Francisco Lindor
Matt Chapman
Alex Bregman
Chris Sale
Trevor Bauer

7/10 are white.

US soccer best 11 last year:
Tim Howard - White
Matt Besler - White
Omar Gonzalez - Latino
DeAndre Yedlin - Black
Jorge Villafana - Latino
Michael Bradley - White
Paul Arriola - White/Latino
Darlington Nagbe - Black
Christian Pulisic - White
Jozy Altidore - Black
Bobby Wood - Hawaiian

5 are white, 2 are neither, 2 are black
8/28/2018 3:37 PM
Posted by bad_luck on 8/28/2018 4:04:00 PM (view original):
Posted by cccp1014 on 8/28/2018 2:51:00 PM (view original):
Posted by laramiebob on 8/28/2018 2:43:00 PM (view original):
So, Boris........... you want us to make a top 10 list for all white players?? Will that make you feel better? :-)
No. I am Not sure why it is taboo to state that black players more often than not are better?
It’s not taboo to say the best players of all time were black. It’s dumb to say that blacks are inherently better at basketball.
Unless you want to totally ignore historical facts (which we all know you do), it isn't dumb at all to say blacks are inherently better at basketball . . . or football, or baseball, or just about anything involving athleticism and/or strength. Historical facts show that blacks were bred for athleticism, strength and stamina for generations. That doesn't just disappear because it doesn't fit you dumbazs claims.
8/28/2018 4:34 PM
That's not inherent.
8/28/2018 4:42 PM
Posted by tangplay on 8/28/2018 4:42:00 PM (view original):
That's not inherent.
Anyone with common sense will disagree with you (as usual).
8/28/2018 4:47 PM
INHERENT: existing in something as a permanent, essential, or characteristic attribute.

Sorry, but training/breeding someone to be athletic doesn't make them inherently athletic.

Either way, doesn't explain why white people dominate baseball/soccer.
8/28/2018 5:14 PM
"Historical facts show that blacks were bred for athleticism, strength and stamina for generations."

Really??
Please point me to the "historical facts" showing that "Blacks were bred for athleticism, strength and stamina for generations."
What "historical facts" are you talking about?
And just WHO did this selective "breeding" for athleticism, strength and stamina??
Some kind of experiment going on that I don't know about?
Ussen decided to make the dark skinned inhabitants of Africa superior in these specific ways??

Really??
I think that may be the most inherently racist thing I've seen posted in a while........... Blacks are bred for superiority in strength and athletic ability........LOL
Tell that to the nerdy Black kid who can't catch a ball or shoot a basketball or run swiftly at all.
There's plenty of them.
Just like whites who can't jump.
All stripes in all types.
You're just clearly a bigot.
And a pretty dumb one at that it seems to me.
8/28/2018 5:17 PM
Blacks can't play ice hockey or swim because of that extra, dense bone in their ankles.........
8/28/2018 5:20 PM
LOL.
8/28/2018 5:22 PM
Brad Radke Win Shares Catfish Hunter Win Shares
7 4
14 5
17 16
14 9
17 13
14 12
17 21
7 23
13 16
18 26
11 29
9 15
4
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1
158 192

Catfish Hunter contributed about 11 more wins to his teams over his career than Brad Radke did.

Take that how you wish.
8/28/2018 5:35 PM
Posted by laramiebob on 8/28/2018 2:43:00 PM (view original):
So, Boris........... you want us to make a top 10 list for all white players?? Will that make you feel better? :-)
1. Jo Jo White
2. Hubie White
3. Jahadi White
4. James White
5. Rudy White
6. Randy White
7. D.J. White
8. Rodney White
9. Willie White
10. Andrew White (active)
8/28/2018 5:43 PM
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