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Posted by cccp1014 on 9/20/2018 10:45:00 AM (view original):
Posted by tangplay on 9/20/2018 10:20:00 AM (view original):
Posted by strikeout26 on 9/19/2018 11:10:00 PM (view original):
And Tang, show me where I've written that the poor don't deserve help. All I have said is that it's not the governments responsibility. We disagree on which people are poor and we disagree on why people are poor, but I would love for you to show me where I have said that the poor don't deserve help.
You think the poor deserves help, but you have not said from whom and how. In a perfect world, charity and church would help out, but this isn't a perfect world.

Also, you have stated that if you can feed your family, you aren't poor.

You also flat out dismissed the idea that disabled people could be poor or that opportunity is not equal.
Don't dodge. If you have an iPhone, Air Jordans and a Playstation you aren't poor.

#1) There are welfare and food stamp programs. Our poor have running water and plumbing. More than many of the poor around the world can say.
#2) Community and Church, 100%. Along with #1.
#3) Disabled how? Each case needs to be reviewed separately. Many disabled people work.
How many people have iPhones, Jordans, and Playstations that are under the poverty line?

1. You mean the programs you want to cut? Also who cares what other countries have? The poor and the US aren't living large. Some of them have basic necessities. Your point is? Our poor are not the best off in the world.
2. They can't pay for it.
3. Yeah and many cannot. Strikeout dismissed ALL cases of disability.
9/20/2018 11:11 AM
Posted by cccp1014 on 9/20/2018 10:49:00 AM (view original):
Posted by tangplay on 9/20/2018 10:10:00 AM (view original):
Posted by cccp1014 on 9/20/2018 9:12:00 AM (view original):
Why are you so angry?
Because there are racists in the government?
There are racists everywhere. Did you forget the Palestinian Flag at the DNC. That is overt. At least most racists are covert.
Yes. So let's vote for people that won't accept racists in the government?

Also, the Palestinian flag was NOT racism.
9/20/2018 11:13 AM
Posted by tangplay on 9/20/2018 11:11:00 AM (view original):
Posted by cccp1014 on 9/20/2018 10:45:00 AM (view original):
Posted by tangplay on 9/20/2018 10:20:00 AM (view original):
Posted by strikeout26 on 9/19/2018 11:10:00 PM (view original):
And Tang, show me where I've written that the poor don't deserve help. All I have said is that it's not the governments responsibility. We disagree on which people are poor and we disagree on why people are poor, but I would love for you to show me where I have said that the poor don't deserve help.
You think the poor deserves help, but you have not said from whom and how. In a perfect world, charity and church would help out, but this isn't a perfect world.

Also, you have stated that if you can feed your family, you aren't poor.

You also flat out dismissed the idea that disabled people could be poor or that opportunity is not equal.
Don't dodge. If you have an iPhone, Air Jordans and a Playstation you aren't poor.

#1) There are welfare and food stamp programs. Our poor have running water and plumbing. More than many of the poor around the world can say.
#2) Community and Church, 100%. Along with #1.
#3) Disabled how? Each case needs to be reviewed separately. Many disabled people work.
How many people have iPhones, Jordans, and Playstations that are under the poverty line?

1. You mean the programs you want to cut? Also who cares what other countries have? The poor and the US aren't living large. Some of them have basic necessities. Your point is? Our poor are not the best off in the world.
2. They can't pay for it.
3. Yeah and many cannot. Strikeout dismissed ALL cases of disability.
1) I want the corruption addressed and yes cut many. Maybe they'll learn to fend for themselves if not given free $$ by the Gov't.
2) Figure it out. Do you think I got my job because of a hand out? I am a son of immigrants and had to fight for everything I have. Stop making excuses for them.
3) Needs to be reviewed on an individual level. If you have diabetes and cannot work because you are a fat out of shape slob then its on you. If you are disabled because a drunk driver hit you, it is on us (the people). I want each and every case reviewed throroughly.

9/20/2018 1:18 PM
Posted by tangplay on 9/20/2018 11:13:00 AM (view original):
Posted by cccp1014 on 9/20/2018 10:49:00 AM (view original):
Posted by tangplay on 9/20/2018 10:10:00 AM (view original):
Posted by cccp1014 on 9/20/2018 9:12:00 AM (view original):
Why are you so angry?
Because there are racists in the government?
There are racists everywhere. Did you forget the Palestinian Flag at the DNC. That is overt. At least most racists are covert.
Yes. So let's vote for people that won't accept racists in the government?

Also, the Palestinian flag was NOT racism.
I just told you it is covert. You don't know what they really believe. It was not "racism" it was certainly offensive and inappropriate.
9/20/2018 1:19 PM
Friends of yours, tang?

https://youtu.be/sqk9itCi_L4
9/20/2018 1:21 PM
Posted by tangplay on 9/19/2018 5:56:00 PM (view original):
Posted by cccp1014 on 9/19/2018 5:53:00 PM (view original):
Posted by laramiebob on 9/19/2018 5:33:00 PM (view original):
Posted by all3 on 9/19/2018 4:50:00 PM (view original):
Tang, just once, please explain to us how a person can have an iPhone, Jordans and a Playstation and still be poor, without being either stupid and/or irresponsible. I think we'd love to hear how you think that's possible.
I'm glad I decided to open this one. I think I know the answer to this and bet Tangy don't.............

Here's how that's possible............ it's called theft.
No no Tang says these people can get these items lawfully and still be “poor”. He needs to stop back pedaling and defend this absurd assertion.
It is possible for someone to own all of those items and be below the poverty line.
Maybe, but anyone who does has their priorities backwards. If you need a phone there are cheaper phones than iPhones. If you need shoes, there are cheaper shoes than Air Jordans. There is nobody who NEEDS a Playstation (although my teenage sons might have a different view on that last one)
9/20/2018 1:55 PM
Posted by strikeout26 on 9/19/2018 9:47:00 PM (view original):
Posted by The Taint on 9/19/2018 9:29:00 PM (view original):
Posted by wylie715 on 9/19/2018 5:32:00 PM (view original):
Posted by cccp1014 on 9/19/2018 2:05:00 PM (view original):
Thank you KO. Tang is insane.
that's right...call anyone who does not agree with you insane, a moron, an idiot, a traitor....
Republican playbook.
both parties playbook.
political playbook, regardless of party
9/20/2018 1:58 PM
Posted by strikeout26 on 9/19/2018 10:59:00 PM (view original):
Posted by The Taint on 9/19/2018 10:44:00 PM (view original):
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Posted by The Taint on 9/19/2018 9:24:00 PM (view original):
Posted by strikeout26 on 9/19/2018 4:45:00 PM (view original):
If you can feed your family, you're not poor. Tang, you may want venture out of Central Kansas and into a 3rd world country. Start telling them that people with luxuries like cable tv are poor and see what kind of reaction you get.
it's almost impossible in this country to not have cable tv. I can have Cable TV for 19.99 a month and I live in one of the most expensive regions in the US.
I don't have cable tv. If you can afford $19.99/month on entertainment, you are not poor. Once again, lets go to a 3rd world country and tell them we have $20 a month to spend on tv, but we're poor and watch their reaction.
I don't have cable either.....not sure what that proves. I'm ******* loaded compared to 99.2 percent of the world.


The lack of empathy exhibited here is astounding. Jesus would stick a hot stick up your *** if he was around and you talked like this.

Nothing unchristian about pointing out reality. If you can afford these things, you aren't poor.

Cable comment proves nothing. Just a random comment. The rest of the statement is relevant.
Many people have those things without actually being able to afford them. That's is just a case of backwards priorities.
9/20/2018 2:00 PM
Posted by cccp1014 on 9/20/2018 9:17:00 AM (view original):
Taint. Don’t care about racism. Honestly I do not. There will be racists. Nothing you can do about it. Just STFU and live with it. My cable bill is $275 per month. Includes phone and Internet. You are also ignorant if you don’t believe many game the system. If you can afford an iPhone, Air Jordan’s and a PlayStation or Xbox you are not poor. The fact that you and Tang disagree is the exactly the problem in this country. Stop feeling sorry for those who game the system. Our poor live better than 99% of the poor in other countries.
You don't care about racism?? That may be the problem right there. Yes, it exists. Yes, there is not much I can personally do about it, exept bring up my children without any sort of prejudice, but whether we can fix it or not, I do care about it. Not every poor person games the system. Not everyone on welfare is gaming the system. Your point of view is exactly the problem in this country in my opinion. At least Taint and tangplay want things to improve. You just say STFU and live with it.
9/20/2018 2:04 PM
Posted by cccp1014 on 9/20/2018 10:49:00 AM (view original):
Posted by tangplay on 9/20/2018 10:10:00 AM (view original):
Posted by cccp1014 on 9/20/2018 9:12:00 AM (view original):
Why are you so angry?
Because there are racists in the government?
There are racists everywhere. Did you forget the Palestinian Flag at the DNC. That is overt. At least most racists are covert.
Dude, can you not let that go? We now how you feel about it. Plus, Israel is not a race, its a country.
Also, I'd rather a racist is overt so I know what I am dealing with.
9/20/2018 2:06 PM
Posted by cccp1014 on 9/20/2018 1:19:00 PM (view original):
Posted by tangplay on 9/20/2018 11:13:00 AM (view original):
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Posted by cccp1014 on 9/20/2018 9:12:00 AM (view original):
Why are you so angry?
Because there are racists in the government?
There are racists everywhere. Did you forget the Palestinian Flag at the DNC. That is overt. At least most racists are covert.
Yes. So let's vote for people that won't accept racists in the government?

Also, the Palestinian flag was NOT racism.
I just told you it is covert. You don't know what they really believe. It was not "racism" it was certainly offensive and inappropriate.
You don't know what they really believe either.
9/20/2018 2:08 PM
Posted by wylie715 on 9/20/2018 2:04:00 PM (view original):
Posted by cccp1014 on 9/20/2018 9:17:00 AM (view original):
Taint. Don’t care about racism. Honestly I do not. There will be racists. Nothing you can do about it. Just STFU and live with it. My cable bill is $275 per month. Includes phone and Internet. You are also ignorant if you don’t believe many game the system. If you can afford an iPhone, Air Jordan’s and a PlayStation or Xbox you are not poor. The fact that you and Tang disagree is the exactly the problem in this country. Stop feeling sorry for those who game the system. Our poor live better than 99% of the poor in other countries.
You don't care about racism?? That may be the problem right there. Yes, it exists. Yes, there is not much I can personally do about it, exept bring up my children without any sort of prejudice, but whether we can fix it or not, I do care about it. Not every poor person games the system. Not everyone on welfare is gaming the system. Your point of view is exactly the problem in this country in my opinion. At least Taint and tangplay want things to improve. You just say STFU and live with it.
You and your Sith qualities. I never said every person. They don't want to do things to improve. If you give people **** for free you are just feeding the fire. You may bring your kids up however you like but that doesn't mean they'll follow your line of thinking and or reasoning. Your preaching is annoying, wylie. Racism will always be here. ALWAYS. Stop whining about it and live with it. We are Jews. We have. Others need to follow suit. I am tired of the whining and crying. Tang doesn't have any kids he has no idea what life is like raising them. Same with Taint.

I am sick and tired of teachers preaching to them that being white is a privilege, that being middle class means you should feel sorry for those who are less fortunate, that gender is fluid, that Israel and Palestine are equally to blame for the conflict, that Trump is racist and only racists voted for him, I could go on and on. This is bullshit. I've had enough.
9/20/2018 2:09 PM
Posted by wylie715 on 9/20/2018 2:08:00 PM (view original):
Posted by cccp1014 on 9/20/2018 1:19:00 PM (view original):
Posted by tangplay on 9/20/2018 11:13:00 AM (view original):
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Posted by cccp1014 on 9/20/2018 9:12:00 AM (view original):
Why are you so angry?
Because there are racists in the government?
There are racists everywhere. Did you forget the Palestinian Flag at the DNC. That is overt. At least most racists are covert.
Yes. So let's vote for people that won't accept racists in the government?

Also, the Palestinian flag was NOT racism.
I just told you it is covert. You don't know what they really believe. It was not "racism" it was certainly offensive and inappropriate.
You don't know what they really believe either.
FU. I never said I did. Tang did. Learn to F*CKING READ.
9/20/2018 2:09 PM
My preaching is tiring? Your constant complaining about the Palestinian flag at the DNC is tiring.
You have constantly told us what Linda Sasour belives and what she was promoting when she flew the flag the the DNC. So, you have said you know what they (or at least she) believe.
I have relatives and friends who are teachers and not one of them preaches about white privilege. I do feel sorry for those that are less fortunate than me.
I am bringing up my kids how I like, and with what I think are the correct morals and sensabilities. Does that mean they will be exactly what I wish them to be? Of course not. They have their own minds and will end up making their own decisions. I just try to give them as much information before they make those decisions and hope they make good ones. You, have often said how your daughters can marry whoever they want as long as they don't marry a Muslim. You do realize they will marry who they want regardless of how you fell about it, right?

So, FU. At least I've never called you a traitor or an idiot because we don't agree on very much, if anything. If I have called you an idiot it is for being a Red Sox fan, and you deserve it for that!
9/20/2018 2:18 PM
Your constant reminder that you are the son of immigrants and nothing was handed to you is also pretty tiring. We know, and you should be proud of what you have accomplished, but not everyone is you, or has your drive to succeed. It has nothing to do with being Jewish.
9/20/2018 2:20 PM
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