I have an idea, im sure it will need tweaked from the experienced players on wis.
24 teams start with min 288 random player pool
min 48 random players for each of the following seasons draft
each player starts with their first eligible season
how do we randomize player pool?
i think there is 72 eligible seasons worth of players
random.org 1-72 ex. we get 67 so we would go to the 12-13 nba season
random.org 1-30* ex. we get 16 going alphabetic order by team name we get the miami heat
random.org 1-13 ex. we got 9 going alphabetic order by name 03-04 lebron james joins our player pool
what are your thoughts

I’d be in.

This sounds great.

Each player progresses one season on independent timelines, or is a random season drawn for each player for each season of the league?

I'd add one player to the 48 random players for every player who is cut. That way, there's definitely enough for everyone. Only 4,000 or so players have ever played in the NBA, so I don't think we'll ever run out in a given season.

One issue with this could be if you randomly generate a player who is already in the league. There might be a more efficient way to generate a random player then three different draws, any of which might have to be redone.

Posted by bds9992 on 6/2/2019 2:32:00 AM (view original):
This sounds great.

Each player progresses one season on independent timelines, or is a random season drawn for each player for each season of the league?

I'd add one player to the 48 random players for every player who is cut. That way, there's definitely enough for everyone. Only 4,000 or so players have ever played in the NBA, so I don't think we'll ever run out in a given season.

One issue with this could be if you randomly generate a player who is already in the league. There might be a more efficient way to generate a random player then three different draws, any of which might have to be redone.

really cool you are interested ive been talking to another experienced player on wis. he was suggestion we draw from 6 random seasons and those players start as the version they were randomly selected and the following drafts all players enter the league as rookies

that sounds good for next seasons draft. will have to be prepared if we need a 2nd or 3rd round if necessary

definitely no clones, i would like to know if anyone has a more efficient way to generate a random player.
my way is a lot of work. i need to see how many teams were in the league each year then see how many players played on that team
thanks for your response, i want this to be fun and a league everyone enjoys

I want this to be a players league, without 24 players this progressive will not happen. i have started to randomize players. if we decide to go with the league open to every era. is there players that wont be eligible? can we play with newer players like ben simmons? if so does the owner get to IR?
players in the league that dont make rosters will progress to there next season. I will be keeping a notebook of every single player who enters the league and then post in the forums so everyone can keep track. i will post the players i have randomized and will put a number next to them to show what season in their career they will play this should look simple at first but as seasons progress and new players are added in i think it will help with all players being on different timelines

87/288 30% of unofficial starting player pool. will become official if we decide this is how we will fill are starting player pool.
years represent how the player was discovered and the (1) represents what season of the players career they are in. will change if we decide to start players from the year they were discovered
60-61 ray felix (1)
52-53 stanley miasek (1)
79-80 tom boswell (1)
16-17 omri casspi (1)
80-81 rich kelley (1)
05-06 marcus camby (1)
57-58 frank ramsey (1)
87-88 kenny smith (1)
16-17 jerami grant (1)
07-08 carmelo anthony (1)
78-79 paul griffin (1)
59-60 larry staverman (1)
16-17 thabo sefolosha (1)
55-56 don meineke (1)
83-84 mark west (1)
97-98 hershey hawkins (1)
77-78 freddie brown (1)
92-93 charles oakley (1)
59-60 george yardley (1)
54-55 william calhoun (1)
76-77 lou hudson (1)
05-06 linton johnson (1)
60-61 ralph davis (1)
73-74 spencer haywood (1)
17-18 trevor ariza (1)
79-80 kim hughes (1)
68-69 keith swagerty (1)
66-67 bill bridges (1)
17-18 frank kamisnky (1)
93-94 doug smith (1)
57-58 slater martin (1)
62-63 don nelson (1)
99-00 dennis rodman (1)
90-91 andrew lang (1)
57-58 jim paxson (1)
05-06 ryan gomes (1)
81-82 jamaal wilkes (1)
14-15 donald sloan (1)
17-18 etwaun moore (1)
62-63 al attles (1)
04-05 sebastian telfair (1)
67-68 larry siegfried (1)
89-90 bobby hansen (1)
78-79 maurice lucas (1)
98-99 terry dehere (1)
87-88 mike mcgee (1)
12-13 tyrus thomas (1)
82-83 lewis llyod (1)
61-62 carl braun (1)
15-16 marreese speights (1)
52-53 arnie risen (1)
06-07 charlie bell (1)
66-67 keith erickson (1)
92-93 johnny dawkins (1)
84-85 charles barkley (1)
90-91 danny ainge (1)
80-81 marvin webster (1)
93-94 geroge muresan (1)
05-06 trenton hassell (1)
14-15 aron baynes (1)
84-85 fat lever (1)
68-69 willis reed (1)
78-79 lionel hollins (1)
09-10 kirk hinrich (1)
93-94 isaiah rider (1)
13-14 kris humphries (1)
88-89 scott skiles (1)
64-65 ben warley (1)
70-71 larry miller (1)
68-69 henry logan (1)
56-57 neil johnston (1)
06-07 sheldon williams (1)
02-03 mark jackson (1)
55-56 dick ricketts (1)
72-73 don adams (1)
05-06 deshawn stevenson (1)
99-00 gary trent (1)
62-63 john egan (1)
65-66 mel counts (1)
91-92 benoit benjamin (1)
67-68 dave bing (1)
88-89 xavier mcdaniel (1)
60-61 jerry west (1)
79-80 michael ray richardson (1)
67-68 george lehman (1)
10-11 jj hickson (1)
06-07 dan gadzuric

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I'll sign up. One thing to keep in mind about the 50's and early 60's players. They can't compete
against modern day players (1980s to present). They'll be buried on the bench. There is a huge
talent gap in this era. Only Wilt, Russell, Oscar, Pettit and maybe Cousy can compete.

Posted by seapilots on 6/6/2019 5:18:00 PM (view original):
I'll sign up. One thing to keep in mind about the 50's and early 60's players. They can't compete
against modern day players (1980s to present). They'll be buried on the bench. There is a huge
talent gap in this era. Only Wilt, Russell, Oscar, Pettit and maybe Cousy can compete.

this is really helpful. any suggestions. should i narrow my search to 65+. what about the players you mentioned should they be grandfathered in?
would the talent gap in players make it more interesting and challenging or would it be less fun?

depends on the available minutes for a roster
it would be fun to be forced to use them.
If not they"d just fill the bench.
TBH I don't really grasp the entire concept.
it sounds interesting. I like the idea of a progressive
mixing different eras.
hope this fills

with concerns of lack of minuets should we allow rookies? no ww or clones tho
i dont really have a theme if anything im trying to emulate real life, you cant control the talent pool and you have to scout the players for upcoming drafts.
in wis progressives you know every single upcoming draft class.
i think the owner who puts in the most effort to scout the player pool and upcoming draft classes will put together the best team.
i might have an advantage with that having to randomize the 288+ players, but i dont have the skills that experienced owners have and im sure most of you who have been in progressives and other leagues for years know the players really well
how many years could this league progress 30-40? bds9992 had said there about 4000 players who have played in the league

Posted by Savage00 on 6/6/2019 6:14:00 PM (view original):
with concerns of lack of minuets should we allow rookies? no ww or clones tho
i dont really have a theme if anything im trying to emulate real life, you cant control the talent pool and you have to scout the players for upcoming drafts.
in wis progressives you know every single upcoming draft class.
i think the owner who puts in the most effort to scout the player pool and upcoming draft classes will put together the best team.
i might have an advantage with that having to randomize the 288+ players, but i dont have the skills that experienced owners have and im sure most of you who have been in progressives and other leagues for years know the players really well
how many years could this league progress 30-40? bds9992 had said there about 4000 players who have played in the league

no rookies please

What if you picked a random year, set the draft center parameters to something like >42% eFG%, took note of the number of players in the pool (let’s say 180 for the year we pick meet that criteria) and then sorted them alphabetically, and then picked a random number 1-X (180 in our example) and then counted from the WiS draft center list (alphabetically) and picked that player for the pool?

That way we’d at least avoid some of the low efficiency super scrubs from other eras.

Just a thought and the parameters could be something different from my example.

Posted by dBKC on 6/6/2019 7:06:00 PM (view original):
What if you picked a random year, set the draft center parameters to something like >42% eFG%, took note of the number of players in the pool (let’s say 180 for the year we pick meet that criteria) and then sorted them alphabetically, and then picked a random number 1-X (180 in our example) and then counted from the WiS draft center list (alphabetically) and picked that player for the pool?

That way we’d at least avoid some of the low efficiency super scrubs from other eras.

Just a thought and the parameters could be something different from my example.

i think this is a good idea, i will use a variation of your idea. i will use the >42% eFG% find a random year, team, then player. or should i apply the >42% eFG% to players from the 50's and 60's only. it might be more draws but i dont wanna count through 100+ players (edited: just remembered wis counts 50 at a time actually wont be that hard. will put more thought into it)
my thoughts on this tho, yes we eliminate super scrubs, lets say a scrub been in the league for 6 years and has one <42% eFG% year, he will still have a small chance of entering the league.

?im starting to look at some of the players so far in the player pool. 60-61 ray felix he played 9 years in the league and has 4 years above 42% eFG
52-53 stanley miasek only played two years his eFG is terrible 37.9 a really good offense rebounding tho

i wanna go through the list and cut players who dont meet standards of the league, and not add generated players going forward who dont meet standards
players with only a few years i think are fine for the league, it will make owners make decisions and we will add more players to the rookie pool for the following seasons draft class