3-2 Question About Guards. Topic

On defense for the 1-3 positions in a 3-2 zone, compare the importance of ath, spd,and def.

Should all three be valued equally?
6/10/2019 6:10 PM
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Others will disagree, but I feel, speaking defense only, you can get away with slower players since you are using 3 guys to cove the perimeter. Also, wing rebounding is important so i have no problem going big in a 3-2. My UCLA team this season is an example, although we are bigger than I plan to be.
6/10/2019 8:51 PM
I'm still relatively new to the 3-2 zone, but some family members run it pretty successfully at high-DI. I would put speed and defense ahead of athleticism. If the top of your zone is very fast, it's tough to beat.
6/10/2019 8:52 PM
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Posted by pallas on 6/10/2019 8:52:00 PM (view original):
I'm still relatively new to the 3-2 zone, but some family members run it pretty successfully at high-DI. I would put speed and defense ahead of athleticism. If the top of your zone is very fast, it's tough to beat.
My teams is always loaded with defense heavy.
6/10/2019 9:27 PM
Defense is always most important, in all sets, all the time, when calculating ofg%.

when it comes to spd and ath, it depends on what type of team you are playing. If they shoot a lot of 3’s then speed is most important. If they are a ath/lp team ath is
ore important.
6/10/2019 9:32 PM
Does all this go for all divisions?
6/10/2019 9:48 PM
Posted by piman314 on 6/10/2019 8:51:00 PM (view original):
Others will disagree, but I feel, speaking defense only, you can get away with slower players since you are using 3 guys to cove the perimeter. Also, wing rebounding is important so i have no problem going big in a 3-2. My UCLA team this season is an example, although we are bigger than I plan to be.
Interesting, so with that team you still prefer to run 3-2 rather than 2-3?
6/11/2019 6:16 AM
Posted by Trentonjoe on 6/10/2019 9:33:00 PM (view original):
Defense is always most important, in all sets, all the time, when calculating ofg%.

when it comes to spd and ath, it depends on what type of team you are playing. If they shoot a lot of 3’s then speed is most important. If they are a ath/lp team ath is
ore important.
Even against a Ath/Lp team, wouldn’t it come down to the Ath and def of my 4 and 5? If their guards are attacking won’t they be going up against my bigs? Or would my guards ath still come in to play there?
6/11/2019 6:19 AM
Posted by Sportsbulls on 6/10/2019 9:48:00 PM (view original):
Does all this go for all divisions?
Yes only the ratings go higher in each division and it takes 900 ratings player to win a ship.
6/11/2019 10:57 AM
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I'd get killed with 2-3 because of the speed of my "shooting guards". I need the 3rd person on the perimeter to help make up for that. And the high rebounding wings help to alleviate that weakness of a 3-2.
6/11/2019 10:39 PM
The cool thing about zone is that it is very flexible. You don’t have to prioritize those physical attributes any certain way, you can build the team successfully in a number of different ways. You can load up on perimeter players with lots of speed (which definitely makes sense if you want a perimeter based offense), and cheat in at -2 or farther against most opponents. You can also use piman’s approach, and use the 2 and 3 as wings who will help some with boards, without cheating inside. You can prioritize versatile 3s who have enough speed and rebounding to allow you to go back and forth, and keep your opponent’s guessing all year. You can also utilize those extreme SG-SF types who are defensive specialists, with elite ath and def and mediocre everywhere else, they can help cover for a weaker defender who is there to score, rebound, or distribute.
6/12/2019 9:55 AM
Posted by fluff_nasty on 6/11/2019 6:19:00 AM (view original):
Posted by Trentonjoe on 6/10/2019 9:33:00 PM (view original):
Defense is always most important, in all sets, all the time, when calculating ofg%.

when it comes to spd and ath, it depends on what type of team you are playing. If they shoot a lot of 3’s then speed is most important. If they are a ath/lp team ath is
ore important.
Even against a Ath/Lp team, wouldn’t it come down to the Ath and def of my 4 and 5? If their guards are attacking won’t they be going up against my bigs? Or would my guards ath still come in to play there?
All divisions, all the time, all situations....defense is always the most valuable variable in the defense metric to decide if a shot goes in.

In zone, all the players scores are averaged. The SB of your center in the 2-3 helps stop 3ftga and the speed of your pg helps against a dunk.

In a 3-2, the 1-2-3 are calculared something like 50% DEF 30% SPD 20% ATH, 4-5 are something like 40% DEF 25% block 25% ATH, 10% speed/

In the 2-3 it's more like 50% DEF, 40% SPD, 10% ATH for the 1-2, 40% DEF, 30% ATH, 20% Block, 10% speed and for the 5 40% DEF, 35% Block, 25% ath.

These #'s are just rough estimates....
6/12/2019 12:54 PM (edited)
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