Posted by copernicus on 6/24/2019 12:37:00 PM (view original):
so my team D is 2 90s and a 73 how does that work out to 71? I'm missing a factor I'm sure because you nailed the minutes but the rest isn't totals x 3

Yeah, I don't just average it out for this stuff. For example the eFG is actually calculated using your team shot totals. The PNT as another example is (sum of each players PNT% * their FGAs) / team FGAs.

Defense is using my preferred way of looking at it which is (players minutes per 82 * 1.02 / 48)*DEF rating. The team column is the average of those. Just a way to account for how long their defense is actually on the floor.

Posted by 24kpyrite on 6/24/2019 9:13:00 AM (view original):
3rd Round Commentary:

49. jackedjamie - Deron Williams
50. sappy - Dikembe Mutombo
51. tarheel1991 - Carlos Boozer
52. 6theluckyone- Manu Ginobili
53. copernicus - Bill Russell
54. bds9992 (via gerryred) - Artis Gilmore
55. robusk (via benhoidal) - Tyson Chandler
56. pharrop - Donyell Marshall
57. dBKC - Nikola Jokic
58. NotoriousJ - Brent Barry
59. mikee1 - Amare Stoudemire
60. Midge - Julius Erving
61. dh555 - Terry Porter
62. mptrey - Mike Conley
63. tau1624 - Kyrie Irving
64. 24kpyrite - Ray Allen
65. redbooda - Elvin Hayes
66. gerryred (via bds9992) - Kyle Lowry
67. robusk- Montrezl Harrell
68. jcred5 - Shawn Kemp
69. ysw128 - Elton Brand
70. dBKC (via cjok1051) - Ben Simmons
71. jackedjamie (via jhsukow) - Horace Grant
72. isacqbs58- Rajon Rondo

-Deron at 49! If players like Deron and Chauncey keep falling to the 2nd/3rd round turn, the owners in those spots are going to be very happy!

-Boozer at 51! Way too early for the Boozer

-Manu at 52! Always nice when Manu falls into the third round

-Gilmore at 54! Think he fell to the third round a couple of seasons ago. I think it is great value where you got him, but I do not think I will like him on your team.

-Another 18-19 starter taken in Kyrie, is that 8 or 9 thus far?

-Elvin at 65! Booda doing Booda

-With the rate the 18-19 seasons are being drafted, Harrell at 67 does not seem like a reach at all.

-Brand at 69! Feels like a big drop for Elton. He is pricey, but gives you a nice game at the 3

I show 7 1819 players so far.

Posted by robusk on 6/24/2019 12:41:00 PM (view original):

Posted by copernicus on 6/24/2019 12:37:00 PM (view original):
so my team D is 2 90s and a 73 how does that work out to 71? I'm missing a factor I'm sure because you nailed the minutes but the rest isn't totals x 3

Yeah, I don't just average it out for this stuff. For example the eFG is actually calculated using your team shot totals. The PNT as another example is (sum of each players PNT% * their FGAs) / team FGAs.

Defense is using my preferred way of looking at it which is (players minutes per 82 * 1.02 / 48)*DEF rating. The team column is the average of those. Just a way to account for how long their defense is actually on the floor.

Just to expand on this a little, using our two teams as examples: Tyson Chandler should not receive as much credit in the team evaluation for his defensive contribution as Bill Russell even though they are both 90 D because Tyson plays 26 minutes a game and Russell plays 40. Tyson should not receive the same weight in eFG as Chris Paul because Tyson has a 11.4 usage and Paul has a 23.7 usage. Maybe that was obvious to you but I just wanted to offer more context. It makes it a little more complicated to generate the table but I prefer to look at the data that way.

makes sense

Posted by robusk on 6/24/2019 12:49:00 PM (view original):

Posted by 24kpyrite on 6/24/2019 9:13:00 AM (view original):
3rd Round Commentary:

49. jackedjamie - Deron Williams
50. sappy - Dikembe Mutombo
51. tarheel1991 - Carlos Boozer
52. 6theluckyone- Manu Ginobili
53. copernicus - Bill Russell
54. bds9992 (via gerryred) - Artis Gilmore
55. robusk (via benhoidal) - Tyson Chandler
56. pharrop - Donyell Marshall
57. dBKC - Nikola Jokic
58. NotoriousJ - Brent Barry
59. mikee1 - Amare Stoudemire
60. Midge - Julius Erving
61. dh555 - Terry Porter
62. mptrey - Mike Conley
63. tau1624 - Kyrie Irving
64. 24kpyrite - Ray Allen
65. redbooda - Elvin Hayes
66. gerryred (via bds9992) - Kyle Lowry
67. robusk- Montrezl Harrell
68. jcred5 - Shawn Kemp
69. ysw128 - Elton Brand
70. dBKC (via cjok1051) - Ben Simmons
71. jackedjamie (via jhsukow) - Horace Grant
72. isacqbs58- Rajon Rondo

-Deron at 49! If players like Deron and Chauncey keep falling to the 2nd/3rd round turn, the owners in those spots are going to be very happy!

-Boozer at 51! Way too early for the Boozer

-Manu at 52! Always nice when Manu falls into the third round

-Gilmore at 54! Think he fell to the third round a couple of seasons ago. I think it is great value where you got him, but I do not think I will like him on your team.

-Another 18-19 starter taken in Kyrie, is that 8 or 9 thus far?

-Elvin at 65! Booda doing Booda

-With the rate the 18-19 seasons are being drafted, Harrell at 67 does not seem like a reach at all.

-Brand at 69! Feels like a big drop for Elton. He is pricey, but gives you a nice game at the 3

I show 7 1819 players so far.

I had Giannis, Gobert, George, Harden, Beal, Vucevic, Klay(Assumption) and Kyrie. Add Harrell, Bledsoe and Embiid

I might be using 18-19 Simmons too. Still weighing options.

Posted by 24kpyrite on 6/24/2019 5:49:00 PM (view original):

Posted by robusk on 6/24/2019 12:49:00 PM (view original):

Posted by 24kpyrite on 6/24/2019 9:13:00 AM (view original):
3rd Round Commentary:

49. jackedjamie - Deron Williams
50. sappy - Dikembe Mutombo
51. tarheel1991 - Carlos Boozer
52. 6theluckyone- Manu Ginobili
53. copernicus - Bill Russell
54. bds9992 (via gerryred) - Artis Gilmore
55. robusk (via benhoidal) - Tyson Chandler
56. pharrop - Donyell Marshall
57. dBKC - Nikola Jokic
58. NotoriousJ - Brent Barry
59. mikee1 - Amare Stoudemire
60. Midge - Julius Erving
61. dh555 - Terry Porter
62. mptrey - Mike Conley
63. tau1624 - Kyrie Irving
64. 24kpyrite - Ray Allen
65. redbooda - Elvin Hayes
66. gerryred (via bds9992) - Kyle Lowry
67. robusk- Montrezl Harrell
68. jcred5 - Shawn Kemp
69. ysw128 - Elton Brand
70. dBKC (via cjok1051) - Ben Simmons
71. jackedjamie (via jhsukow) - Horace Grant
72. isacqbs58- Rajon Rondo

-Deron at 49! If players like Deron and Chauncey keep falling to the 2nd/3rd round turn, the owners in those spots are going to be very happy!

-Boozer at 51! Way too early for the Boozer

-Manu at 52! Always nice when Manu falls into the third round

-Gilmore at 54! Think he fell to the third round a couple of seasons ago. I think it is great value where you got him, but I do not think I will like him on your team.

-Another 18-19 starter taken in Kyrie, is that 8 or 9 thus far?

-Elvin at 65! Booda doing Booda

-With the rate the 18-19 seasons are being drafted, Harrell at 67 does not seem like a reach at all.

-Brand at 69! Feels like a big drop for Elton. He is pricey, but gives you a nice game at the 3

I show 7 1819 players so far.

I had Giannis, Gobert, George, Harden, Beal, Vucevic, Klay(Assumption) and Kyrie. Add Harrell, Bledsoe and Embiid

Bledsoe wasn't picked at the time I posted that but I agree his best season is probably 18-19. Same with Embiid. Giannis: yes. George: yes. Harden: I like 17-18 better. Beal: yes. Vucevic: yes. Klay: I like 14-15 better but you could go either way. Kyrie: yes. Harrell: yes. Embiid: yes. Bledsoe: yes.

Posted by robusk on 6/24/2019 6:02:00 PM (view original):

Posted by 24kpyrite on 6/24/2019 5:49:00 PM (view original):

Posted by robusk on 6/24/2019 12:49:00 PM (view original):

Posted by 24kpyrite on 6/24/2019 9:13:00 AM (view original):
3rd Round Commentary:

49. jackedjamie - Deron Williams
50. sappy - Dikembe Mutombo
51. tarheel1991 - Carlos Boozer
52. 6theluckyone- Manu Ginobili
53. copernicus - Bill Russell
54. bds9992 (via gerryred) - Artis Gilmore
55. robusk (via benhoidal) - Tyson Chandler
56. pharrop - Donyell Marshall
57. dBKC - Nikola Jokic
58. NotoriousJ - Brent Barry
59. mikee1 - Amare Stoudemire
60. Midge - Julius Erving
61. dh555 - Terry Porter
62. mptrey - Mike Conley
63. tau1624 - Kyrie Irving
64. 24kpyrite - Ray Allen
65. redbooda - Elvin Hayes
66. gerryred (via bds9992) - Kyle Lowry
67. robusk- Montrezl Harrell
68. jcred5 - Shawn Kemp
69. ysw128 - Elton Brand
70. dBKC (via cjok1051) - Ben Simmons
71. jackedjamie (via jhsukow) - Horace Grant
72. isacqbs58- Rajon Rondo

-Deron at 49! If players like Deron and Chauncey keep falling to the 2nd/3rd round turn, the owners in those spots are going to be very happy!

-Boozer at 51! Way too early for the Boozer

-Manu at 52! Always nice when Manu falls into the third round

-Gilmore at 54! Think he fell to the third round a couple of seasons ago. I think it is great value where you got him, but I do not think I will like him on your team.

-Another 18-19 starter taken in Kyrie, is that 8 or 9 thus far?

-Elvin at 65! Booda doing Booda

-With the rate the 18-19 seasons are being drafted, Harrell at 67 does not seem like a reach at all.

-Brand at 69! Feels like a big drop for Elton. He is pricey, but gives you a nice game at the 3

I show 7 1819 players so far.

I had Giannis, Gobert, George, Harden, Beal, Vucevic, Klay(Assumption) and Kyrie. Add Harrell, Bledsoe and Embiid

Bledsoe wasn't picked at the time I posted that but I agree his best season is probably 18-19. Same with Embiid. Giannis: yes. George: yes. Harden: I like 17-18 better. Beal: yes. Vucevic: yes. Klay: I like 14-15 better but you could go either way. Kyrie: yes. Harrell: yes. Embiid: yes. Bledsoe: yes.

I agree with robusk. I'm actually a big fan of 18-19 Bledsoe, I know it's a small sample size (19 games) but he is doing a great job for me in DH 52 right now. As is Vucevic for that matter, however I do expect Nikola will produce even better in this ODL as he will be a starter and the second option behind Harden. Which brings me to the bearded one. I too like his 17-18 season better. (less turnovers, less fouls among other smaller things).

All I need are two high defense wings who can shoot. Gilmore solidifies blocks, low fouls, and rebounding. I’ll get some cheap wings and have everything I need. But, expecting positive commentary around here is like expecting snow in July.

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I think by the time the 4th round rolls around you kind of need to start thinking about fit and finances - I have no problem w Raja Bell there

Posted by copernicus on 6/25/2019 4:33:00 PM (view original):
I think by the time the 4th round rolls around you kind of need to start thinking about fit and finances - I have no problem w Raja Bell there

Truth

Row Labels	Count Plyers	Sum Min	Team PER%	Team MID%	Team PNT%	Team Usage	Team Oreb%	Team Dreb%	Team Creb%	Team Ast%	Tm eFG	Sum F/G	Tm TO%	Weighted Def	Sum Salary	$/Min Rem
24kpyrite	4	11,421	18%	32%	51%	9.3	32.1%	45.2%	77.3%	35.0%	54.7%	9.8	14.2%	50	31,443,874	$ 159,870
6theluckyone	5	13,151	29%	30%	40%	12.1	21.1%	52.3%	73.4%	52.4%	54.5%	13.1	12.5%	52	34,536,951	$ 163,541
bds9992	4	11,433	13%	41%	46%	10.2	24.7%	48.3%	73.0%	39.4%	56.8%	9.6	13.1%	58	32,337,213	$ 150,916
benhoidal	4	8,779	20%	31%	49%	8.7	14.0%	47.6%	61.6%	34.0%	57.8%	8.9	12.2%	49	24,397,766	$ 174,502
cjok1051	4	9,694	27%	33%	40%	11.6	14.3%	35.3%	49.7%	64.4%	56.4%	8.6	13.8%	46	27,257,581	$ 166,792
copernicus	5	14,068	14%	38%	48%	12.0	26.8%	71.1%	97.9%	50.1%	53.8%	12.9	12.2%	60	37,312,327	$ 148,985
dBKC	5	12,916	9%	33%	58%	10.7	26.1%	49.4%	75.5%	58.3%	58.5%	13.6	14.9%	55	34,927,927	$ 152,670
dh555	5	14,074	13%	32%	54%	10.9	30.0%	61.8%	91.9%	48.7%	56.3%	13.6	13.1%	55	38,397,275	$ 132,449
gerryred	4	10,742	24%	28%	48%	9.8	17.1%	48.8%	65.8%	38.6%	56.6%	10.2	12.4%	56	29,367,366	$ 166,999
isacqbs58	4	11,568	16%	39%	45%	9.6	17.6%	52.7%	70.3%	53.1%	53.4%	10.2	12.5%	66	30,861,211	$ 168,971
jackedjamie	5	14,849	22%	30%	48%	9.4	31.8%	70.2%	102.1%	60.9%	58.1%	11.3	13.6%	56	41,132,975	$ 105,712
jcred5	4	10,869	12%	41%	46%	11.0	23.8%	62.0%	85.8%	58.5%	53.6%	11.1	14.6%	52	31,312,112	$ 150,792
jhsukow	4	10,484	15%	35%	51%	11.4	21.6%	59.6%	81.2%	32.3%	56.0%	11.5	13.5%	50	29,002,968	$ 165,518
Midge	7	15,532	15%	40%	46%	12.3	29.4%	64.5%	93.9%	62.3%	56.3%	14.9	11.6%	40	41,273,368	$ 121,402
mikee1	5	14,277	19%	37%	44%	13.1	26.5%	53.2%	79.7%	56.8%	56.2%	11.9	12.8%	55	39,070,081	$ 126,928
mptrey	5	12,229	22%	32%	45%	11.5	17.6%	59.1%	76.7%	50.7%	55.5%	11.3	13.9%	52	33,405,496	$ 155,452
NotoriousJ	3	9,208	21%	30%	49%	10.3	19.2%	45.4%	64.6%	34.3%	58.2%	8.3	13.4%	55	27,492,257	$ 156,950
pharrop	5	14,023	25%	33%	41%	10.7	27.8%	66.9%	94.8%	42.5%	55.8%	12.4	11.0%	58	37,484,705	$ 145,110
redbooda	4	11,387	27%	39%	35%	17.1	16.6%	58.2%	74.9%	34.4%	52.2%	11.7	11.2%	60	31,060,916	$ 163,111
robusk	5	12,775	11%	31%	58%	8.9	25.1%	57.9%	83.1%	49.6%	56.9%	13.8	13.1%	59	34,504,249	$ 154,664
sappy	5	14,044	13%	39%	48%	13.4	25.0%	63.4%	88.4%	55.9%	56.3%	11.0	13.3%	54	38,836,615	$ 124,981
tarheel1991	5	10,804	14%	40%	46%	11.0	24.4%	50.0%	74.3%	39.6%	58.1%	11.5	13.4%	35	29,544,592	$ 166,513
tau1624	4	11,192	25%	31%	44%	9.6	21.1%	58.8%	79.9%	48.7%	56.5%	10.3	12.8%	61	30,871,977	$ 161,123
ysw128	4	10,918	4%	37%	59%	9.9	27.1%	62.9%	90.0%	25.8%	52.5%	11.3	11.4%	68	30,357,850	$ 160,889

@copernicus: Couldn't really figure out which Terrence Jones season you might be using.

One of the seasons you’re projecting for me is wrong, and that’s OK.