Posted by NebHusker on 10/6/2019 12:55:00 PM (view original):

Posted by ozomatli on 10/5/2019 7:18:00 PM (view original):

Posted by daddyzander on 10/5/2019 7:11:00 PM (view original):
So 110 mil

lets say I pick the 2000 Mets. So I get 95-2005. I then twist to a braves Red Sox Rockies Yankees and blue jays team based off the 2000 Mets. Then draft 5 players from each of those 5 teams who were never teammates with anyone on the 2000 Mets other than the original twist thereof?

Not quite. In your example:

1. You pick the 2000 Mets as your base team
2. You twist 5 players, one each to the 2002 Red Sox, 1996 Yankees, 1996 Blue Jays, 2000 Rockies and 2005 Cardinals
3. You then twist 5 players from each of those 5 teams (for example, Pedro Martinez, Jason Varitek, Derek Lowe, Manny Ramirez and Trot Nixon from the 2002 Red Sox) to other seasons of theirs between 1995 - 2005
4. None of those players can have played with anyone on the 2000 Mets in any year they were WIS-eligible

$110M question, just to be certain as the above example uses different franchises. . . . "other teams" means we can use the same franchise, correct?

So in the above example with the 2000 Mets, you could choose players from the 2004 Mets, 1996 Mets, 1999 Mets, 2002 Cardinals, and 2002 Indians?

Yes, that's correct. By "teams" I mean franchise-seasons (i.e. 1996 Mets, not Mets)

Posted by jfranco77 on 10/6/2019 1:15:00 PM (view original):
For the 140m, two questions

1) Nominating a player does not give you any rights to that player, correct? Just making sure I'm reading that right.

2) Is there a minimum number of seasons/WIS seasons/whatever that a player has to have to be nominated?

I second these questions.

Posted by ozomatli on 10/5/2019 5:35:00 PM (view original):
$110M: Two Degree Twist
Pick a team. Twist 5 players to other teams that are each no more than 5 years removed from your base team in either direction. Example: I pick the 1927 Yankees as my base team. I can twist players to teams from 1922 - 1932.

Then, twist 5 players from each of those teams within the years you have available (i.e. 1922 - 1932) and use them to make up your roster.

However, none of the players you use can have been a WIS-eligible teammate of any of the WIS-eligible players from your base team at any point in their career, except for the player you twisted from your base team.

Other Specifics
Seasons: 1920 - 2019
DH: No
WW: No
AAA: No
Trades: No
Clones: No
Injuries: Turned On
Multi-team players: No restrictions (i.e., you can use partial or combined)
Ballpark: Must be the home park of your base team
300K Exception: No
Team Name: Reference your base team
Division Alignment: Random

I hope I'm misunderstanding something, because as far as I understand it, it would be near impossible to build a roster, a nightmare for me to see if my team is going to be valid, and a nightmare for you to check:

The base team is 1927 New York Yankees, which has 25 players. The 25 players that are eventually rostered (which would have to be from the years 1922-1932) must not have been teammates of any of the 1927 New York Yankees at any point in their careers. This means that I would have to check each of my 25 players to make sure that they never played on a roster that has a player that did or would go on to play for the 1927 New York Yankees.

$140m draft question:

Q: If an owner nominates Babe Ruth (for example), does that owner get to pick which teammate of Babe Ruth he's going to roster before the draft?

Oh, I almost forgot to ask about the Silent Auction Draft:

Does the owner who submits a winning bid for a player pay whatever they bid or the next highest bid + $1 million? This is a really important question because the strategies change a lot depending on which it is.

one thing I want to confirm on the 110 mil because I think I am reading it that way

The five players you twist off the original team are eligible to be re-twisted and on your actual roster?

110M Question: "Then, twist 5 players from each of those teams within the years you have available".

Is that 2nd twist mandatory or optional? In other words, if I twist a player to the 1978 Yankees, can I roster 1978 Guidry or would I have to twist him to another year?

255M question:

When owners get outbid for a player, will the complete list of bids that were submitted be released to everyone before owners submit their re-bids? I ask because it would seem a little unfair if, in the case of ozomatli being outbid, he would have that information while others would not.

Posted by justinlee_24 on 10/7/2019 4:39:00 AM (view original):
Oh, I almost forgot to ask about the Silent Auction Draft:

Does the owner who submits a winning bid for a player pay whatever they bid or the next highest bid + $1 million? This is a really important question because the strategies change a lot depending on which it is.

I didn't think we'd be doing Vickrey here, though that could be fun. Or chaotic!

Posted by discodemo on 10/7/2019 10:31:00 AM (view original):
110M Question: "Then, twist 5 players from each of those teams within the years you have available".

Is that 2nd twist mandatory or optional? In other words, if I twist a player to the 1978 Yankees, can I roster 1978 Guidry or would I have to twist him to another year?

Every time I read this I come up with a different answer. But I think you have to use 78 Guidry or how else would Ozo even know you used the 78 Yankees? Yes? No? Maybe? I guess you could just tell him?

EDIT... is it fair to ask if you even have to use Guidry at all? Or just use him to take you to the 78 Yankees. If I can twist ANY 5 players from the 78 Yankees...

Posted by justinlee_24 on 10/6/2019 11:14:00 PM (view original):

Posted by ozomatli on 10/5/2019 5:35:00 PM (view original):
$110M: Two Degree Twist
Pick a team. Twist 5 players to other teams that are each no more than 5 years removed from your base team in either direction. Example: I pick the 1927 Yankees as my base team. I can twist players to teams from 1922 - 1932.

Then, twist 5 players from each of those teams within the years you have available (i.e. 1922 - 1932) and use them to make up your roster.

However, none of the players you use can have been a WIS-eligible teammate of any of the WIS-eligible players from your base team at any point in their career, except for the player you twisted from your base team.

Other Specifics
Seasons: 1920 - 2019
DH: No
WW: No
AAA: No
Trades: No
Clones: No
Injuries: Turned On
Multi-team players: No restrictions (i.e., you can use partial or combined)
Ballpark: Must be the home park of your base team
300K Exception: No
Team Name: Reference your base team
Division Alignment: Random

I hope I'm misunderstanding something, because as far as I understand it, it would be near impossible to build a roster, a nightmare for me to see if my team is going to be valid, and a nightmare for you to check:

The base team is 1927 New York Yankees, which has 25 players. The 25 players that are eventually rostered (which would have to be from the years 1922-1932) must not have been teammates of any of the 1927 New York Yankees at any point in their careers. This means that I would have to check each of my 25 players to make sure that they never played on a roster that has a player that did or would go on to play for the 1927 New York Yankees.

It would be a little time consuming, but not too difficult. Pull up the 1927 Yankees roster.

Then search each of your players on Baseball-Reference and do a quick search through all their rosters to cross-reference.You could verify in less than an hour, max.

Ok, back to the 110 again, There has got to be a better way to check a roster than sit and run every player you are thinking of rostering through the oracle tool vs every non twisted player off the original team. If thats really the only option, I get this is supposed to be a harder set of builds, but this is so time consuming as to almost not be doable.

Has anyone successfully built a legal team in the 110M theme so far? The "can't have been teammates" rule is so restrictive that I hate this theme already.

I spent like 4-5 hrs today and never even got close.

I've been holding off till we get some clarity around the Guidry questions earlier in the day