Posted by dino27 on 12/3/2019 6:23:00 PM (view original):
the above is the stupidest post......by an angry guy....i wish i could redline it.
to friend wylie i say from someone who in my time could always draw a line
juicing was a name for a lot of different stuff......there were a lot of people who used a few times but are counted as users and some were under the category of experimenters and some were occasional and there were not a lot who used heavy constant combos of steroids and hgh.
the real notorious " heroin " my term - users like clemens and bonds and that ilk of cheating is where i draw the hof line.
it is widely suspected that tony gwynn may have used in one season. if that is true - just one season i would probably give him the mulligan.
if a guy under consideration was documented as someone who used a few times very limited with very limited impact i would vote for them.
im not against jaywalkers .
Cheating has always been part of baseball from spitballs, to sign stealing to performance enhancing drugs. If someone wants to risk their health to play baseball better, why should I care? And as someone else mentioned, its not like you take steroids and all of the sudden you get better. You still need to put in a lot of work and have the talent to start with.. Marvin Bernard took steroids. He was never more than a marginal player. There are many others who took steroids and were never good, let alone great.
How about Andy Pettitte? He says he took steroids to help in his recovery from an injury. Does he get a pass?
Also, I never heard that rumor about Gwynn...not sure how widely suspected it is.