Seriously...How? Topic

Dougie didn't do it by himself. He had some help. Not that he needed much
11/25/2019 7:01 PM
Just out of curiosity, I looked at the 5 top threads (other than this one). Of the last 119 posts made in those threads, Doug had made 110 of them. That is ridiculous.
11/25/2019 7:13 PM
Posted by wylie715 on 11/25/2019 7:01:00 PM (view original):
Dougie didn't do it by himself. He had some help. Not that he needed much
I helped because I kept fighting. I regret it a little, but again, I like to punch the bag. I’ve reached the point now where I don’t need to fight anymore. It’s over. It’s just a matter of time.
11/25/2019 8:04 PM
More peace and unity from the Dems?
12/2/2019 12:51 PM
How do any of you guys justify IGNORING the TRUTH staring EVERYONE in the face? How do you reconcile the behavior against your religious beliefs while looking a charlatan in the eyes? Why can’t you at least be HONEST and admit you don’t care one iota about the lies, the breaking of laws or the bile being regurgitated on our constitution? I don’t understand how you buy into dems being called “do nothing” when there are far over one hundred bills that languish on the desk of McConnell that he won’t even put to a vote. History, and in turn time, will not be kind to those so ignorantly complicit in this, the worst crisis of our democracy since the civil war. Lastly...

How much are you getting for the sale of your very souls???
12/8/2019 12:25 PM
"How much are you getting for the sale of your very souls???"

I'll take a stab at an answer for the "folks" you refer to, as I'm quite sure they won't reply to your question.

As a fiscal conservative and former Reagan voter (sorry, I erred)......... it has become transparently apparent that most Repugs have none left to sell, and for those that do, the price is extraordinarily cheap. Guys like Nunes, Collins, and Jordan, and (unfortunately) McConnell and Graham........... those folks are without spine, class, honesty, or Patriotic virtue. They are clearly vermin willing to destroy Country to preserve their POSITIONS in their PARTY!

In short, they are traitors to our Constitutional Republic.
And SHOULD BE embarrassments to their own constituents.
12/8/2019 1:30 PM
I understand everything you just said Bob, but I just don’t get it. I guess I just gave the rich and the dumb among us more credit and expect them to be more...human.

I’ve said and done some really ****** things here to combat dummy and his, as pointed out, BOT-LIKE behavior. Does the guy really believe he’s changing hearts and minds here? Does he really think anybody even LOOKS AT even HALF of his minute-by-minute bullshit?

I, being a man of extremely diverse experiences and a career spent among people from ALL walks of life, sit here today watching LITERAL OBSTRUCTION occur in front of my eyes. The republicans on this committee are an EMBARRASSMENT to the TRUTH and I just can’t see how ANY human with reasonable ability to think can continue to support a serial LIAR.

They deflect, they false narrative, they don’t answer questions, they (as we see here every day) try to dominate conversation and pull attention away from TRUTH and they ******* LIE!!!

You see the dummy and his most recent daily rants claiming he “won.” When TRUTH BE TOLD he actually just couldn’t take my kind of heat up against his own so he resorted to claims I don’t exist and the eventual meltdown that lead us to today.

The real world has a very large lesson to teach some about TRUTH. Denial simply doesn’t mean anything other than COWARDICE.

The AMERICAN PEOPLE see through your fear and obfuscation.

TRUTH is what shall set us FREE.
12/9/2019 9:55 AM
You do realize that everything you say about Repubs can be said about Dems too, right? That's the problem I have with the "discussion" that goes on in this Forum - people trying to act like the Dems are actually interested in the American people or justice, or even what's "right". They are interested in one thing, and one thing only - the exact same one thing the Repubs are - doing whatever helps their Party. That is why Parties need to go, so elected officials may become free to stand-up for "right" and their electors without fear of reprisal by some Party, who ultimately controls if they remain in office or not.
12/9/2019 10:38 AM
Thanks All3. I agree with you completely on the “party” thoughts. A true moderate literally has no options anymore. My problem is that THIS administration has **** on the RULE OF LAW so much that it cannot, and should not, be forgiven. If you want to call Democrats the “lesser of two evils” that’s fine with me. You would be EXACTLY RIGHT.

Despite my behavior here I am actually a moderate. I am intelligent enough to see the shards of glass being put together to form a window. I have FAMILY who work the southern border. I agree that immigration needs an IMMEDIATE and COMPLETE overhaul. I also think it has to be done HUMANELY above all. I agree that Trump legislation has opened up the business sector but AT WHAT COST? I agree that jobs have been created but I also acknowledge the counter argument that most of those have been MENIAL and UNDERPAYING. I would argue that what you actually see are those numbers ballooning because everyone needs TWO, THREE or FOUR of said jobs to make enough money to support themselves and their families. I’m also a CONFIRMED CATHOLIC who has enough sense to see that religious theology, particularly when applied to Trump, doesn’t fit the narrative if you are a TRUE CHRISTIAN. Beware false prophets and all...

I’m glad we could interact reasonably all3. And I do apologize for being an *******. It’s just a tattoo of frustration that I wear on my sleeve.

I truly believe everyone here but one is actually a pretty reasonable and caring and intelligent human being. I haven’t acted that way here and I admit I was wrong. I am a fighter. It is in my lineage. I will continue to fight, but I have decided that my best weapon is my intellect and that it’s long past time to put away the fists and the anger. I’m probably not going to change anyone’s mind, but I have changed my own.

I choose TRUTH in the face of ANGER and HATRED and INJUSTICE. I’m just done with stooping down so many levels to reach the LIES.

12/9/2019 11:14 AM
I hear you loud and clear all3 BUT there is a problem with your analysis. It has no solution. We CAN'T do away with Parties. Folks have the Constitutional right to assemble. We CAN have more than 2 dominant Parties however which is how Most of the world's democracies operate. This is why for years I flirted with Libertarian votes for POTUS (Johnson, Marou, Browne, even Paul may years ago). I agree with your basic premise of the damage done by the Parties, particularly post IKE! because I have been (Mostly) dismayed at the choices the 2 Parties have provided as choices for leader of the Free World. They have been abysmally poor choices. Uninspired and tired!! Like Biden for the Dems this year and HRC last time. PERFECT EXAMPLES of mediocrity (or WORSE) being rewarded for service to PARTY! The exact OPPOSITE of what our society was organized to have occur. The cream is no longer able to surface because individualism (of all types in ALL areas) is being squashed like a bad bug, when it was supposed to be rewarded here in OUR society.

Operating a Democratic Republic required two things. Our Founders TOLD us this.
It required citizen participation at ALL levels and it required the suppression of group think through the empowerment of the Individual!
They attempted to enshrine that empowerment in the ORIGINAL set of National Laws when they insisted that a Bill of Rights (the 1st Ten Amendments) be adopted WITH the Constitution before they would agree to ratification!

In simple terms they understood that OUR experiment, OUR society was like a stew (thus the melting pot analogy). And any chef knows that ANY stew needs to be stirred in order to let the good flavors surface and the scum to be enveloped and overcome........... extinguished if you will.

The two Party system has produced leadership of and by scum! The pot isn't getting stirred.
And YES, this IS true in both parties, BUT nowhere is it occurring more visibly and with such PROFANE disregard for the LAW of the Country and the principles of our Republic than is what's going on right now, right this minute in the REPUBLICAN mainstream PARTY!

THEY are literally supporting and enabling a DIRECT challenge on our Republic and our individual Freedoms (like fair elections!) by defending and supporting this criminal, petulant child of a POTUS. That is much much different than 1973 when at least a FEW Republicans (like Barry Goldwater) were forced to recognize that the PUBLIC would not support any attempt to subvert the Constitution and somehow keep Nixon in office.

It was what it was, reluctant spine. But even that is gone from the Republicans.
They no longer represent US, the people. They have become the Party of the Corp.

They Dems. no matter how stupid, no matter how crazy parts of their Party be, are the ONLY Party left who even has the pretense of the people as their constituency. That Party is comprised of lunatics of ALL sorts, just like the damn Country.

IF the cream ain't rising in THAT Party it's because WE, as citizens, have stopped participating. WE aren't doing our job. We are failing to KEEP our Republic. Through apathy, short attention spans, lack of effort, and sometimes willful stupidity.

We must get involved re-take the Parties from their masters (the Dem. Party is pretty much an un-mastered group of nutjobs and minorities and young folks, with a few diehard liberals, and some small groups of farther left "folks" who make all the noise and get all the publicity. THAT Party is open to a mass movement of ****** off non voters and independents who could basically just recast the entire Party.

But, that Repugnant bunch, that PARTY is totally in the hands of two interests anymore. Big Money (Corps. and the few folks who run them) and left-over Tea Party nutjobs who never did enough study to figure out WHO the enemy was, plus a FEW racists that Trump has brought in. I no longer believe that PARTY has any avenue available for even the most persistent and Patriotic citizens to infiltrate and re-take and mold back into the Party of Lincoln. There is no (IMO) Republican Party worth saving. The best thing for the Country would be for it's demise and to split into 2 or more factions with the Dems. also doing the same. We end up with a strong Dem. Party, a (likely) Socialist (or Socialist Light) Party, and 2 (or more) Parties that result from true Repugs. and Conservatives, and some fiscal Independents that can't go Democrat.

Essentially, I believe the Republican Party to be History ultimately. Brought down by their willing take over by the Trumpets and the resulting corruption and damage brought onto our Republic.

My opinion is here. Posted very Publicly. History will be written long after I'm dead and gone.
I'll be revealed as a fool, a tin-hat who cried wolf about Donald J. Trump.

OR, I'll be proven correct. A single, simple American who had the common sense to actually read and listen and SEE what was occurring right before his eyes and who had the tiniest amount of courage necessary to SPEAK UP and OUT about what was happening to OUR Country.

IN OUR Country.


Tell somebody, tell somebody
tell somebody
what's happening in the USA
tell somebody, tell somebody
tell somebody

I want to know how far you will go
to protect our right of free speech
because it only took a moment
before it faded out of reach...

Lyric (Partial) from Rickie Lee Jones "Tell Somebody"

I'm just doing what I was taught to do by my heroes.
Stand UP, RISE UP! Speak Out!

I Like Apple Pie, and California Girls, and Kansas farmgirls, too.
I'll do what I can to save them from the evil that confronts us.
Even IF it means calling the current leadership what they are.
Traitorous vermin!

I pray for all of you to STOP enabling the evil within the Repugnant PARTY!

Speak UP, and OUT. CALL your Repugnant Rep. and DEMAND ENOUGH!
Demand and stand up for TRUTH!

My apologies for the lengthy Post and for the sermon.
I'll leave the stage to others.
12/9/2019 2:27 PM (edited)
bob, did you really actually bring-up fair elections when talking about the Dems. being "better"? Do you think the 2016 Dem Primary was a "fair election"?
It's EVERYWHERE, on BOTH sides. Trying to decide which is a lesser evil is like trying to decide if it's better to get sprayed by a skunk or stuck all over with porcupine quills.
12/9/2019 11:45 AM
That's an easy one all3 AND I think it's a PERFECT analogy.

Yes, I did. And no, I don't think the Dem. primary was (necessarily) fair. BUT, it doesn't need be. It's THEIR rules. THEY make them. They play by them. It's NOT a National election. It's a PARTY preference vote. Republican get to make their OWN rules, too.

Now, to your analogy. I'm quite experienced with BOTH skunks and porcupines.
Dealt with many a Porcupine quill and more than one dog's "learning experience" about Porcupines.
We, here in AZ, have LOTS of very lovely skunks. Big broadstripe ones. Pretty as all get out.

My last (and final) best friend, just could never get past how fun them dang "slow cats" was to chase.
Must have gotten sprayed a dozen times. Has happened to me as well on occasion.
Had one broadstripe that made under the deck home for a while, anyways............

A skunk spray can be directly applied to voting Democratic these days.
It's a bad smell, but a little dishsoap combined with some baking soda and Hydrogen Peroxide and it goes away and things get back to normal.

Porcupine quills can be directly compared to voting Republican.
The willingness to engage a Republican vote leaves a sharp reminder of how badly you erred. And then when you try and remove the damage, because it has a hidden evil (the barb) it causes even further damage and pain trying to expel the "evil" from your body. Taking on many quills (voting Republican too long!) will leave a person permanently scarred. Sometimes the damage is too much and can't be undone. Only major surgery will suffice. Ask my old dog Rufus about that. Even He was smart enough to learn NOT to vote Porcupine!
12/9/2019 12:04 PM
Gotta respect that explanation.
12/9/2019 12:10 PM
Posted by all3 on 12/9/2019 12:10:00 PM (view original):
Gotta respect that explanation.
I second that. Call the roll...:)
12/9/2019 12:43 PM
I'm a moderate. Yes the 2016 dem primary was fair. She won, Bernie lost. I voted for Bernie. Oh well.

that has nothing to do with the mob boss in the white house. he needs to go. Now. we can not trust any election he is apart of.
12/10/2019 12:30 AM
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