Commentary Thread DH $52M Draft League LXVIII Topic

@vancem remember your Dr. J/Rodman team? I believe you won the championship with it. Calderon, maybe Dirk, Zo? But you used Nets Dr. J. Can’t justify it over the more efficient version but I’d like to try it one day.

You’ve taken Doc in the first a few times, right?
4/18/2020 3:22 PM
Team Rosters


1. redbooda

1. Devin Booker(15) Phil Ford(25)
2. Vince Carter(36) Devin Booker(12)
3. Danilo Gallinari(25) Danning Manning(18)
4. Hakeem Olajuwon(40)
5. Wilt Chamberlain(46)

2. gerryred(2)

1. Mo Cheeks(40) Steph Curry(2)
2. Steph Curry(31) J.R. Smith(17)
3. Brandan Wright(12)
4. Chris Webber(34) Nikola Vucevic(14)
5. Tyson Chandler(31) Nikola Vucevic(17)

3. pennsylvania

1. Paul Pressey(35)
2. Michael Jordan(39)
3. Alex English(37) Nicolas Batum(11)
4. Anthony Mason(38)
5. Derrick Favors(21) Theo Ratliff(22)

4. ysw128

1. Manu Ginobili(15) Tony Parker(33)
2. LeBron James(35) Manu Ginobili(13)
3. Wesley Person(38)
4. Andrew Bogut(12) Kris Humphries(25)
5. Dikembe Mutombo(38) Andrew Bogut(10)

5. tarheel1991

1. Terry Porter(33)
2. Bradley Beal(37) Rodrigue Beaubois(9)
3. Shawn Marion(37)
4. Jerry Lucas(38)
5. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar(40) Boban Marjanovic(8)

6. thomcat

1. Steve Nash(33)
2. Charlie Ward(28) Robert Covington(20)
3. Elton Brand(37) Robert Covington(11)
4. Bill Russell(44) Greg Monroe(4)
5. Shaquille O'Neal(39) Greg Monroe(9)

7. hoopsdude

1. Chauncey Billups(36) Kober Bryant(3)
2. Kobe Bryant(36) Carmelo Anthony(12)
3. Dennis Rodman(40)
4. Dirk Nowitzki(38)
5. Marcus Camby(34) Anderson Varejao(11)

8. copernicus

1. Kyrie Irving(17)
2. Ray Allen(38) Kyrie Irving(10)
3. Pascal Siakam(31) Ryan Anderson(17)
4. Bob McAdoo(39) Dwight Howard(9)
5. Dwight Howard(27) Arvydas Sabonis(21)

9. mikee1

1. Terrell Brandon(31)
2. Kevin Durant(38)
3. Marques Johnson(34)
4. DeAndre Jordan(34) Eric Moreland(10) Chris Gatling(4)
5. Patrick Ewing(39) Chris Gatling(9)

10. gerryred

1. Mark Price(33) Derek Harper(15)
2. Derek Harper(16) Marvin Williams(16)
3. Donyell Marshall(36) Marvin Williams(12)
4. Karl Malone(36) Clifford Ray(3)
5. Bill Walton(28) Clifford Ray(20)

11. amerk1180

1. Chris Paul(35) Jimmy Butler(9)
2. Victor Oladipo(31) Jimmy Butler(17)
3. Andrei Kirilenko(32)
4. Alonzo Mourning(17) Dan Roundfield(31)
5. Tree Rollins(26) Alonzo Mourning(17)

12. jcred5

1. Kyle Lowry(31) Jose Calderon(11)
2. Alvin Robertson(32)
3. Otto Porter(30) Kenneth Faried(16)
4. Giannis Antetokounmpo(29)
5. Artis Gilmore(42)

13. benhoidal

1. Eric Bledsoe(28)
2. Nate McMillan(23) Kyle Korver(25)
3. Montrezl Harrell(26) Kyle Korver(4)
4. Karl Anthony-Towns(37) Robert Parish(11)
5. Clint Capela(25) Robert Parish(17)

14. samuelyork93

1. Mookie Blaylock(37)
2. Anfernee Hardaway(37) Gerald Wallace(11)
3. Larry Bird(37) Gerald Wallace(11)
4. Bobby Jones(30) Oliver Miller(18)
5. Pau Gasol(37) Oliver Miller(4)

15. uptowngbv

1. Walt Frazier(37) Tyreke Evans(7)
2. James Harden(35) Tyreke Evans(13)
3. Draymond Green(34)
4. Shawn Kemp(32) Carlos Boozer(16)
5. Larry Sanders(24) Carlos Boozer(15)

16. jhsukow

1. Gary Payton(31) Jamaal Tinsley(17)
2. Scottie Pippen(37) Gary Payton(11)
3. Horace Grant(35) Chris Andersen(13)
4. Amare Stoudemire(33)
5. Rudy Gobert(31) Chris Andersen(5)

17. coachcroft

1. Rajon Rondo(32)
2. Brent Barry(37) Maurice Harkless(11)
3. Paul George(35) Maurice Harkless(4)
4. Andre Drummond(32) Moses Malone(13)
5. Moses Malone(28) JaVale McGee(20)

18. pharrop

1. Jason Kidd(35)
2. Dan Majerle(39)
3. Serge Ibaka(33)
4. Anthony Davis(33) Nicola Mirotic(15)
5. Jonas Valanciunas(21) Domantas Sabonis(22) Nicola Mirotic(3)

19. dbkc

1. Ben Simmons(33)
2. Klay Thompson(30) Chris Mullin(11)
3. Charles Barkley(39)
4. Kevin McHale(37) Joel Embiid(11)
5. Kyle O'Quinn(17) Joel Embiid(15)

20. mptrey

1. Dwyane Wade(37)
2. Danny Green(27) Andre Iguodala(21)
3. Larry Nance(35) Cheick Diallo(11) Andre Iguodala(2)
4. Nikola Jokic(30)
5. David Robinson(38)

21. dh555

1. Russell Westbrook(34)
2. John Stockton(35) Mark Jackson(13)
3. Magic Johnson(36) Grant Hill(12)
4. Joakim Noah(15) Grant Hill(26)
5. Tom Boerwinkle(29) Joakim Noah(19)

22. vancem

1. Deron Williams(37)
2. Kawhi Leonard(30) Clyde Drexler(16)
3. A.C. Green(30)
4. Willis Reed(38) Hassan Whiteside(10)
5. Hassan Whiteside(16) Andrew Bynum(32)

23. bds9992

1. Mike Conley(34) Goran Dragic(14)
2. Julius Erving(29) Goran Dragic(19)
3. Al Horford(28) David West(12) Julius Erving(5)
4. Emeka Okafor(28)
5. Ben Wallace(35)

24. longtallbrad

1. Marcus Smart(27)
2. Jrue Holiday(36) James Johnson(12)
3. Kevin Garnett(35) James Johnson(13)
4. Buck Williams(36)
5. Tim Duncan(33) DeMarcus Cousins(9) Kevin Garnett(6)
4/18/2020 3:52 PM
Evaluations in three parts (8 per post, in reverse draft order, part 2):

Don’t get mad if you don’t like my analysis. I’m usually bad at these anyway.

16. Jhsukow (Gobert, Pippen, Amare, Horace, Payton, Tinsley, Birdman)

This is a solid team. 4 great defenders covering for Amare’s weakness. Good team rebounding. Gobert and Amare are incredibly efficient scorers. 2 good passers in Pippen and Payton. I personally would’ve went Paul George over Amare in round 3 but the Amare/Horace forward combo is definitely a good pairing, Horace covers Amare’s D by being able to switch with him, and makes up for his weak rebounding. I do wonder if Payton hurts you too much with his downsides (low eFG%, high $/min since he’s a high minute player) but overall he has more positives than negatives and you got him late. I wouldn’t be surprised to see this team make the playoffs. Nice drafting.

15. Uptowngbv (Harden, Draymond, Kemp, Larry Sanders, Boozer, Tyreke, Frazier)

If you’re going to draft around Harden, Draymond is a perfect fit. Nice job with that pick. I do wonder if you got too much usage and could’ve focused on lower usage players with better rebounding/passing/D/eFG. Like Harden needs a TON of shots and Frazier and Kemp are both pretty high usage and Draymond is average. If you want to play Harden at SG, why not go with a PG like Charlie Ward or Nate McMillan? Or why not play Harden at PG and get a SG like Danny Green? I don’t know if I like the Frazier/Harden duo, especially with Kemp needing his shots too. Another worry is that Harden is a high TO player and you’d want to counter that by selecting lots of low TO players, but Kemp is a TO machine. I don’t see the playoffs in this team’s future but it’s not impossible.

14. Samuelyork93 (Bird, Penny, Bobby Jones, Blaylock, Pau, Gerald Wallace, Oliver Miller)

I love the Bird and Penny combo. Bobby Jones is interesting because normally people play him at SF but you’ve got Bird there. I guess he’d be good to switch with Bird on D. I’m not sure where your rebounding is coming from. Bobby is a weak rebounder if you’re playing him at PF. Pau is a good player but a weak rebounder. Penny is great at rebounding if you’re playing him at PG but the Mookie pick tells me you’re not. I don’t think there’s enough passing or efficiency to justify playing small ball. Klay instead of Bobby in the 3rd plus then a couple low usage rebounding big men would’ve made you a contender. I’m going to say borderline playoffs but not probable to make it.

13. Benhoidal (KAT, Capela, Montrezl, Bledsoe, Parish, McMillan, Korver)

Ben traded down a lot and picked up several good pieces in the process. I’ve won with Montrezl and Capela before and am high on them in this league. Those two plus KAT gives them tons of eFG and rebounding. Then he goes with a high-D, two-PG approach since he can afford to with his great rebounding. I like it. Good balance of paint scoring and perimeter scoring. Good D. Good efficiency. Good rebounding. Possible contender.

12. Jcred5 (Giannis, Gilmore, Lowry, Porter Jr, Alvin, Calderon, Faried)

Giannis and Gilmore is a fantastic duo. Lowry is a good 3rd banana. Otto gives a great perimeter compliment to Giannis’s inside dominance. I don’t know about the Alvin Robertson pick though...I feel like there were better players on the board, especially because it means you’ll have to play either him or OPJ at SF. Would’ve liked to see Gerald Wallace at that pick instead. Calderon and Faried are nice 6th round picks. I’m going to say possible but not probable playoffs.

11. Amerk1180 (CP3, Mourning, Oladipo, Tree, AK47, Jimmy Buckets, Roundfield)

This is a very good defensive team with decent boards and decent passing. I feel like Mourning was a bit of a reach in the mid-2nd but not a bad pick. I probably would’ve went with Marion there. The Oladipo/Butler duo at SG is great. I won my first title in the league with those two plus Rondo as my backcourt, and Paul is an upgrade over that. I think you might’ve been better off going with one average defender who is better at O, and having the other 4 cover for him on D, but this still looks like a playoff team to me.

10. Gerryred (Mailman, Walton, Donyell, Derek Harper, Mark Price, Marvin Williams, Clifford Ray)

Mailman and Walton is a great frontcourt. Donyell is a nice role player at the other forward spot. Harper and Price is a nice duo in the backcourt bc they compliment each other well. Clifford Ray is a nice backup to Walton but I would’ve liked to see you get Mailman’s backup instead. I don’t know if this team has enough firepower. Karl is really the only guy who scares me. I probably would’ve went Nash in the 2nd and then loaded up on defenders. I think this team has a shot at the playoffs but I don’t think it’s a guarantee.


9. Mikee1 (Durant, DAJ, Ewing, Marques Johnson, Terrell Brandon, Moreland, Gatling)

KD and DeAndre is a great duo but I think the next target should’ve been a point guard and not another C and SF. Mo Cheeks over Ewing would’ve made this team more appealing to me. I think there’s a lot to like about this team and a lot left on the table. This team was so close to being a strong contender but as it stands I’m going to say 38-44 wins.
4/18/2020 4:07 PM
I know you are the eFG% master, but is 53.5 low eFG%?
4/18/2020 4:33 PM
Posted by jhsukow on 4/18/2020 4:33:00 PM (view original):
I know you are the eFG% master, but is 53.5 low eFG%?
I didn’t know you were using that GP. I guess you can afford to go with the lower AST version since you have Pippen. That leaves some 3PM on the table but it still is a pretty good choice.
4/18/2020 4:36 PM
entered my team with only $715 left...19721 mins

4836 total assists to 4781 total rebounds....935 steals!

looks good on paper but i have no idea what to expect...def gonna need a strong ast% bump to contend...155% ast in the starting lineup...is that enough?
4/18/2020 5:10 PM
I'm in, managed to stay under 20k and spend all but 300ish
4/18/2020 7:53 PM
Well dh555 I redid my roster after realizing that Will Reed was bringing down the overall EFG% of my bigs too much overall. I had to keep Reed. I also like the big man rotation better now too. But I added a horrible defender to the roster as 3rd string center and back up power forward. The new team did well in the SImMatchup which means a bit more than nothing.
4/18/2020 8:33 PM
Posted by dh555 on 4/18/2020 5:10:00 PM (view original):
entered my team with only $715 left...19721 mins

4836 total assists to 4781 total rebounds....935 steals!

looks good on paper but i have no idea what to expect...def gonna need a strong ast% bump to contend...155% ast in the starting lineup...is that enough?
My thought is that this is very interesting. I'm curious as to what the ORB% is for the team? If this team had dominance on the offensive glass that in my mind would make it very difficult to beat. Every offensive rebound this squad pulls down is just another great chance for an automatic 2 points with an assist. It looks like there will be a lot of defensive rebounds on most of the missed shots as the team sits right now. But I am very curious as to how it will play out.
4/18/2020 8:45 PM
What is the thought process for the black out draft dh555? Are you for example going to black out all of the players that have been picked in 4 out of the last 5 $52 Million and ODL drafts? I have spreadsheets that list all of the players that have been picked in the last five $52 Million league drafts.
4/18/2020 8:50 PM
Posted by bds9992 on 4/18/2020 3:22:00 PM (view original):
@vancem remember your Dr. J/Rodman team? I believe you won the championship with it. Calderon, maybe Dirk, Zo? But you used Nets Dr. J. Can’t justify it over the more efficient version but I’d like to try it one day.

You’ve taken Doc in the first a few times, right?
Yes, bds9992 I was thinking about that team today. It lost in the finals to another excellent dh555 team. Actually you were close to the roster composition for that team. It did out rebound the opponents by about 10 per game! I used the big version for Dr J (with the Nets) with the big rebounding its like 26%. The key to that team I believe was taking KAT in the 4th round! So the bigs were KAT and Patrick Ewing. Rodman of course at SF. Calderon may have been a weakness defensively at PG.

Of course I love Doc. I had thoughts of using him as my second round pick this season but I would have then taken a big in round 1. There was an other old owner 98average that swore that the Nets version of Dr J was the best in this league. He was one of the most winning owners in the basketball SIM until he was banned from this league by dh555 (that's a hint for you penn) Did you get it???

My other great idea for this season was to take Tim Duncan in round 1 and then take Scottie Pippen in round 2 and call the team "D Minus" as dh555 took David Robinson in round 1 last season and then took Pippen and called the team "D". That was the best team in the league in my mind until that upstart out of the box thinking dbkc won the league ha ha.
4/18/2020 9:12 PM
SENSITIVITY ALERT SENSITIVITY ALERT.

QUERRY to the speech Czar - Is it permissible to respond to a post without retribution?

Banning someone from a league (presumably because of posting something the isolated complainers deem offensive, is more a reflection of those who get whipped up reading a post - I mean REALLY - it's a post (borrowing from Allen Iverson)

Instead of taking things with the preverbal grain of salt - SOME seem to have their minds internally implode - self-determining that BANNING something is the better course to finding solace in the emptiness of the cavern sitting above their shoulders. GO FIGURE.

4/18/2020 9:33 PM
anxiously awaiting vancem redating my post because - well, SEE above
4/18/2020 9:34 PM
quick, dBKC do your thing!
4/18/2020 9:41 PM
Sorry guys I shouldn't have poked the bear. My bad.
4/18/2020 9:41 PM
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