Bad Neighbor League Draft Topic

This is a league I ran a couple of times many years ago. It is not a progressive league. It's just a one time shot. It can of course be repeated. It's pretty complicated so it's probably not the right league for someone with a passing interest in WIS. It's better for the hard core owner. Here are the rules.

Standard 24 team league -- six divisions, four teams per division. $ 80 million budget No DH

Your roster will be constructed from four real teams from a universe of teams (all MLB teams from the seasons 1922, 32, 42, 52 ,62, 72, 82) which will be posted below. For instance you could construct your roster from the 1922 Cards, 1922 Yanks, 1962 Cards and 1972 Mets). The rostering is pretty restrictive. Once the season starts you can start a player at any position where he has a rating. However on your final roster you must have exactly 2 players who have a primary position at catchers, 2 1B, 2 2B, 2 3B, 2 SS, 5 outfielders and 10 pitchers. You can tell what position the guy counts as because when you roster in a team, say the 82 Red Sox you will see Wade Boggs is listed as a 1B. If you use him on your final roster, he will be one of your two 1B. However he is also rated at 3B and in the OF so once the season starts he can play any of those three positions.

Very important. When you roster a team it will show you the players. That's who you get. If you look on baseball-reference.com you may see the team actually had more players (especially the 72 and 82 seasons). That's too bad. You only get the ones that are listed when you put in the 82 Red Sox. How do you roster in a team? Look at a blank draft center page. See where it says 2015 Anaheim Angels? You can switch that to any year of any team. That's the official league approved way of finding out who goes with each team..


On your final roster you must have seven players from one of your four teams and six from each of the other three. You can't have two seasons of the same player on your final 25 man roster, for instance 1922 Babe Ruth and 1932 Babe Ruth assuming you are using the 1922 and 1932 Yankees.

As soon as 24 owners are signed up, you will be randomly assigned to a division. That assignment is important as will be seen. A draft order will be randomly assigned for the four round draft. The draft order will go 1-24, 1-24, 24-1, 24-1.

Round One - When your draft pick comes up you pick any team from the available list of teams. Once you pick that team no one else can pick it. For instance you pick the 1972 Reds.

Round Two - One of your three division mates will be assigned the task of gifting you a second team. He should look at your first pick and find another team that matches horribly with it. For instance if your first team was the 1962 Dodgers which has great pitching but just okay hitting, maybe matching them with another team with great pitching and no hitting would be a good match - maybe the 1972 Mets. After all, you can't really roster Seaver, Koosman, Matlack, Koufax and Drysdale on an $ 80 million team - or can you? Or you might give him the 1962 Mets and say good luck finding six usable players from that roster. There are lots of ways to screw your neighbor. Let's say your first team is the 1932 Yankees complete with a $ 8 million Lou Gehrig. They don't have a backup 1B though. Maybe giving them another team with an $8 million 1B with no backup. Wouldn't it be fun if he had to roster an $ 8 million and $ 8 million 1 B on his final roster, neither of which can play any other position. Anyway, this is where we need experienced owners to be proper bad neighbors.

Round Three - A second owner in your division will gift you another team. He needs to look at your first two teams and find which remaining team will cause you the most grief.

Round Four - You get to pick the fourth team to complete this mess of a roster as best as you can, well aware that the dagger round is coming next.

Dagger Round - The third owner of your division gets to throw two daggers before you make your final roster. He will look at your universe of possible players from your four teams and he can dagger one player, removing him from consideration from your final roster. Who to dagger? Your only home run hitter? Your only cheap backup 1B? The fourth starter who's a bargain at 2 Million? Your only shortstop with over 300 at bats? The only decent utility infielder? The possibilities are a puzzle. If the person has 1922 and 1932 Babe Ruth, the dagger kills both of them. The second dagger will be to dagger one of your four stadiums.

I know this is complicated, but it's for the owner looking for complicated. It works smoothly as we've run it a few times already Please sign up or ask questions.
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Draft Timeslots

Underlined means your team is approved to enter the league.

NL East

1. CRTYonker .........…….....42 Yanks...……………..42 Phillies...……...42 Tigers....…...42 Cubs
2. tkcronin …………………...62 Giants...…………..32 Red Sox...……...32 Indians...….72 Cubs
3. Bigscungil ………………...82 Dodgers...………..52 Braves...………..32 Cards.........52 Cards
4. redcped …………………...42 Dodgers...………..72 Rangers...……….42 Reds...…...42 Browns

NL Central

1. 3dayrotation …………………...72 Athletics...…...52 Senators.....72 Indians 72 Cardinals
2. Chazzzzzz …………. …………..32 Yankees...…...22 Phillies...….62 Cubs...………….62 Cardinals
3. kentol …………………………….72 Orioles...…….62 Mets...…….72 Angels...………..62 Phillies
4. Peekay …………………………...62 Yankees...…..22 A's...………62 Red Sox...……….72 Yankees

NL West

1. spid24 ..…………………..………...42 Cardinals......32 White Sox....72 Brewers...………...72 Braves
2. brygold ……………………………….72 Pirates...….. 22 Braves...….22 Robins...…………..22 Pirates
3. Beernoser ………………………..22 Cubs...……...….52 Tigers...…...52 Reds...…………….82 Angels
4. soxyanks ……………..… ………..72 Reds...………..82 Mets ………...82 Blue Jays...……..72 White Sox

AL East

1. DodgerDon …………………..72 Red Sox...………...72 Padres...……...42 White Sox...…….72 Astros
2. garbageman8 ………………..52 Indians...………….82 Twins...………..52 Red Sox...……...82 Cards
3. jpeterso ……………………….52 Dodgers...………..42 Senators...……..82 Cubs...………….82 Padres
4. toddcommish ……………… .52 White Sox...……...42 A's...……………..22 White Sox...…...62 Tigers

AL Central

1. eman7400 ……………………62 Dodgers...……….32 Reds...…………..82 Reds...…………...82 Astros
2. evil_twin ……………………..72 Dodgers...………..62 Colt 45's...……...72 Expos...………...32 Cubs
3. farleyfustle ………………….22 Yankees...………..52 Pirates...………...22 Cardinals...……..62 Angels
4. fatguyrd ……………………..82 Phillies...………….62 Senators...……...42 Braves...………..62 Reds

AL West

1. jonstephen24 .....................82 Expos...…………72 Phillies...….52 Browns...………………….82 Royals
2. szczubelek 6-9...…………..72 Tigers...………….82 A's...……………...42 Pirates...……….…...22 Browns
3. vilefileman ………………...52 Yankees...……….32 Browns...………...22 Red Sox...................72 Twins
4. contrarian23 ……………....52 Cubs...…………..82 Rangers...………...82 Mariners...................42 Red Sox

Dagger picks

1. CRTYonker……………………………...Claude Passeau ………………..Yankee Stadium...…………….from tkcronin
2. tkcronin…………………………………...Bill Cissell………………………..Candlestick Park...…………….from Bigscungil
3. Bigscungili………………………………..Mark Belanger...………………...Braves Field...…………………..from redcped
4.redcped...………………………………...Damon Phillips...………………...Ebbbetts Field...……………...from CRTYonker
5. 3dayrotation...…………………………..Joe Torre...……………………….Oakland Coliseum...………….from Peekay
6. Chazzzzz…………………………...Bob Gibson...……………………...Yankee Stadium ………………...from 3dayrotation
7. kentol………………………………...Clay Dalyrymple…………………..Memorial Stadium...…………….from Chazzzzzz
8. Peekay…………………...………...Steve Kline...…………………………..Yankee Stadium...………………...from kentol
9. spid24...……………………..……...Hank Aaron...…………………….County Stadium...………………...from beernoser
10 brygold…………………………….Rabbit Maranville …………………..Braves Field...…………………...from soxyanks
11 beernoser………………………….Johnny Pesky...…………………….Crosley Field...…………………..from spid
12 soxyanks…………………………..Johnny Bench...…………………..Shea Stadium...…………….from brygold
13 DodgerDon…………………...Carlton Fisk...………………….Astrodome...………………….from garbageman8
14 garbageman8...………………….Joaquin Andujar……………….Busch Stadium...…………...from jpeterso
15 jpeterso…………………………..Dutch Leonard...……………….Jack Murphy Stadium...…….from Toddcommish
16 Toddcommish……………………..Hank Aguirre...…………………..Tiger Stadium...………….from DodgerDon
17 eman……………………………….Sandy Koufax...…………………….Astrodome...……………...from fatguy
18 evil_twin…………………………Gabby Hartnett...……………………..Dodger Stadium ………...from eman
19 farleyfustle………………………...Babe Ruth...………………………..Sportsmans Park...……...from evil_twin
20 fatguy………………………………..Ron Reed...……………………….Braves Field...…………..from farleyfustle
21 jonstephen………………………...Steve Rogers...…………………….Olympic Stadium...…….from vilefileman
22 szscubelek………………………….Mickey Lolich…………………...Sportsmans Park...……...from contrarian
23 vilefileman………………………….Dan Monzone…………………...Yankee Stadium...………..from jonstephen
24 Contrarian...……………………….Hank Sauer...…………………….Wrigley Field...…………….from szscubelek
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1922 Standings

American League

NY Yankees 94-60...…………………………………………………...farleyfustle (1)

St Louis Browns 93-61...……………………………………………..szscubelek (4)

Detroit Tigers 79-75

Cleveland Indians 78-76

Chicago White Sox 77-77...……………………………………….toddcommish (from garbageman8) 3

Washington Senators 69-85

Philadelphia A's 65-89...…………………………………………..Peekay (2) from Chazzzzzz

Boston Red Sox 61-93...………………………………………...vilefileman (3) from szscubelek

National League

New York Giants 93-61

Cincinnati Reds 86-68

St Louis Cardinals 85-69...……………...……………………….farleyfustle (from fatguyrd) (3)

Pittsburg Pirates 85-69...………………………...……...……..brygold (4)

Chicago Cubs 80-74...………………………………………..beernoser (1)

Brooklyn Robins 76-78...…………………………………….brygold (3) from spid

Philadelphia Phillies 57-96...………………………………….Chazzzz (2) from Peekay

Boston Braves 53-100...……………………………………..brygold (2) from beernoser
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1932

American League


NY Yankees 107-47...…………………………………...Chazzzzzz (1)

Philadelphia A's 94-60

Washington Senators 93-61

Cleveland Indians 87-65...………………………………………...tkcronin (from redcped) 3

Detroit Tigers 76-75

St Louis Browns 63-91...……………………………………..vilefileman (from Contrarian) 2

Chicago White Sox 49-102...………………………………..spid24 from brygold (2)

Boston Red Sox 43-111...…………………………………...tkcronin (fromCRTYonker) (2)

National League

Chicago Cubs 90-64...………………………………………….evil_twin (4)

Pittsburg Pirates 86-68

Brooklyn Dodgers 81-73

Philadelphia Phillies 78-76

Boston Braves 77-77

NY Giants 72-82

St Louis Cardinals 72-82...………………………………………………..BigScungil (fromCRTYonker) 3

Cincinnati Reds 60-94...…………………………………………………..eman7400 (from farleyfustle) 2
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1942 Standings

American League


NY Yankees 103-51...……………………………...CRTYonker (1)

Boston Red Sox 93-59..........................................Contrarian (4)

St Louis Browns 82-69...…………………………..redcped (4)

Cleveland Indians 75-79

Detroit Tigers 73-81...………………………………………….CRTYonker (from Bigscungil) 3

Chicago White Sox 66-82...……………………………………DodgerDon (from jpeterso) 3

Washington Senators 62-89...………………………………..jpeterso (from garbageman8) 2

Philadelphia A's 55-99...……………………………………..toddcommish (from jpeterso) 2

National League

St Louis Cardinals 106-48 …………………………..spid (1)

Brooklyn Dodgers 104-50...…………………………..redcped (1)

NY Giants 85-67

Cincinnati Red 76-76...………………………………...redcped (from tkcronin) 3

Pittsburg Pirates 66-81...……………………………..szscubelek (from jonstephen25) (3)

Chicago Cubs 68-86...………………………………….CRTYonker (4)

Boston Braves 59-89...…………………………………...fatguyrd (from eman7400) (3)

Philadelphia Phillies 42-109...………………………..CRTYonker (2) from redcped

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1952 Standings

American League


NY Yankees 95-59...………………...……………...vilefileman (1)

Cleveland Indians 93-61...………………………......garbageman8 (1)

Chicago White Sox 81-73...………………………...toddcommish (1)

Philadelphia A's 79-75

Washington Senators 78-76...……………………..3dayrotation (2) from kentol

Boston Red Sox 76-78...…………………………….garbageman8 (from Toddcommish ) 3

St Louis Browns 64-90...……………………………….jonstephen25 (from Contrarian25) 3

Detroit Tigers 50-104...………………………………..beernoser (2) from soxyanks

National League

Brooklyn Dodgers 96-57...……………………………...jpeterso

NY Giants 92-62

St Louis Cardinals 88-66...……………………………….BigScungil (4)

Philadelphia Phillies 87-67

Chicago Cubs 77-77...…………...……………………...Contrarian (1)

Cincinnati Reds 69-85...………………………………….Beernoser (3) from brygold

Boston Braves 64-89...………………………………...Bigscungil (2) from tkcronin

Pittsburg Pirates 42-112...……………………………..farleyfustle (from eman7400) 2
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1962 Standings

American League

NY Yankees 96-66...………………………...peekay (1)

Minnesota Twins 91-71

Los Angeles Angels 86-76...………………………………...farleyfustle (4)

Detroit Tigers 85-76...……………………………………….Toddcommish (4)

Chicago White Sox 85-77...…………………………………………..Soxyanks (4)

Cleveland Indians 80-82

Boston Red Sox 76-84...……………………………………………...Peekay (from3dayrotation) 3

Baltimore Orioles 77-85

Kansas City A's 72-90

Washington Senators 60-101...…………………………………...fatguyrd (from evil_twin) 2

National League

San Francisco Giants 103-62...…………………………..tkcronin (1)

Los Angeles Dodgers 102-63...…………………………...eman7400 (1)

Cincinnati Reds 98-64...…………………………………...fatguyrd (4)

Pittsburg Pirates 93-68

Milwaukee Braves 86-76

St Louis Cardinals 84-78...……………………………………….Chazzzzzz (4)

Philadelphia Phillies 81-80...………………………………..kentol (4)

Houston Colt 45's 64-96...…………………………………..evil_twin (from fatguyrd) 2

Chicago Cubs 59-103...……………………………………...Chazzzzzz (from kentol) 3

NY Mets 40-120...……………………………………………..kentol (2) from 3dayrotation

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1972 Standings

American League East

Detroit Tigers 86-60...……………………………..szscubelek (1)

Boston Red Sox 85-70...…………………………...DodgerDon (1)

Baltimore Orioles 80-74 …………………………...kentol (1)

NY Yankees 79-76...………………...………...…...Peekay (4)

Cleveland Indians 72-84...……………………………………..3dayrotation (from Chazzzzzz) 3

Milwaukee Brewers 65-91...…………………………………...spid (from soxyanks) 3

AL West

Oakland A's 93-62...…………………………………...3dayrotation (1)

Chicago White Sox 87-67

Minnesota Twins 77-77...............................................vilefileman (4)

Kansas City Royals 76-78

California Angels 75-80...………………………………...kentol (from Peekay) 3

Texas Rangers 54-100...……………………….redcped (2) from Bigscungil

National League East

Pittsburg Pirates 95-59...………………………………..brygold (1)

Chicago Cubs 85-70...…………………………………..tkcronin (4)

NY Mets 83-73

St Louis Cardinals 75-81...…………………………………………...3dayrotation (4)

Montreal Expos 70-86...……………………………………………...evil_twin (from farleyfustle) 3

Philadelphia Phillies 59-97...……………………………………...jonstephen25 (from szscubelek) 2

NL West

Cincinnati Reds 95-59...…………………………………..soxyanks (1)

Los Angeles Dodgers 85-70...……………………………...evil_twin (1)

Houston Astros 84-69...……………………………………..DodgerDon (4)

Atlanta Braves 70-84...……………………………………..spid24 (4)

San Francisco Giants 69-86

San Diego Padres 58-95...……………………………………..DodgerDon (2) from toddcommish
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1982 Standings

AL East

Milwaukee Brewers 95-67

Baltimore Orioles 94-68

Boston Red Sox 89-73

Detroit Tigers 83-73

NY Yankees 79-83

Cleveland Indians 78-84

Toronto Blue Jays 78-84...……………………………………………..soxyanks12 (from beernoser) 3

AL West

California Angels 93-69...…………………………………………..Beernoser (4)

Kansas City Royals 90-72...……………………………………….jonstephen25 (4)

Chicago White Sox 87-75

Seattle Mariners 76-86...………………………………………...Contrarian (from vilefileman) 3

Oakland A's 68-94 ………………………………………………….szscubelek (from vilefileman) 2

Texas Rangers 64-98...………………………………………..Contrarian (from jonstephen) 2

Minnesota Twins 60-102...……………………………...garbageman8 (from DodgerDon) 2

National League East

St Louis Cardinals 92-70...……………………………………………...garbageman8

Philadelphia Phillies 89-73...…………………………………………….fatguyrd (1)

Montreal Expos 86-76...…………………………………………………jonstephen25 (1)

Pittsburg Pirates 84-78

Chicago Cubs 73-89...………………………………………………..jpeterso (from DodgerDon) 3

NY Mets 65-97...…………………………………………………….soxyanks (from spid) 2

NL West

Atlanta Braves 89-73

Los Angeles Dodgers 88-74...………………………...BigScungil (1)

San Francisco Giants 87-75

San Diego Padres 81-81...……………………………………...jpeterso (4)

Houston Astros 77-85...…………………………………...eman (4)

Cincinnati Reds 61-101...………………………………...eman (from evil_twin) 3
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