3dayrotation is definitely going with a 3 day rotation with Gibson, Catfish, and Gaylord Perry! maybe my user name should be hitandpray...or maybe sprayandpray?

Having a hell of a time getting the pieces to fit. Was able to get an acceptable 24 man roster just at the cap, but that's not quite going to work.

Posted by szczubelek on 5/10/2020 11:29:00 AM (view original):
Detroit Daggers
Tiger Stadium

C ‘22 Hank Severeid
C ‘72 Bill Freehan
1B ‘72 Norm Cash
1B ‘82 Joe Rudi
2B ‘22 Marty McManus
2B ‘82 Dave McKay
3B ‘42 Bob Elliott
3B ‘22 Herman Bronkie
SS ‘22 Wally Gerber
SS ‘42 Alf Anderson
OF ‘22 Ken Williams
OF ‘72 Al Kaline
OF ‘42 Vince DiMaggio
OF ‘42 Bud Stewart
OF ‘22 Chick Shorten

Pitchers

’72 Joe Coleman
’22 Elam Vangilder
’42 Bob Klinger
’72 Tom Timmermann
’72 Woodie Frymam
’82 Dave Beard
’42 Hank Gornicki
’82 Jeff Jones
’82 Preston Hanna
’82 Steve Baker

Elam Vangilder is one of my favorite baseball names. Never heard of anyone else with either of those names, ever!

Elam Vangilder is also one of my favorite names. Oddly, my next door neighbor's last name is Vangilder. Never asked if they were related. Hmn, I'm gonna.

Going round and round with my team too. It fit fine before the dagger. Now I'm having to replace my good players and then to get under budget I have eight players from one team. Grrrr. Also at bats becoming a problem.

Maybe I can make a trade with ET. Trading wouldn't violate the spirit of this league too much, would it? Well maybe just one eeny weenie trade? Have to check with the commissioner. After all, me having a good team is in the best interests of the league.

Got it! It ain't pretty, but it fits...

Six 72 Dodgers : OF Willie Davis, SP Claude Osteen, RP Pete Richert, P Jim Brewer, SP Bill SInger, SP Al Downing
Six 62 Colt 45's : 3B Bob Aspromonte, C Hal W. Smith, 2B Johnny Temple, RP Jim Umbricht, P Jim Golden, RP Russ Kemmerer
Six 72 Expos : C Tim McCarver, 1B Hal Breeden, OF Clyde Mashore, OF Ron Woods, RP Mike Marshall, SP Bill Stoneman
Seven 32 Cubs : 1B Charlie Grimm, 2B Billy Herman, SS Billy Jurges, OF Johnny Moore, OF Riggs Stephenson, 3B Stan Hack, SS Mark Koenig

Salary Cap: $80,000,000 Current Payroll: $79,915,459 Position Salaries: $41,095,548 Pitcher Salaries: $38,819,911

We'll play at 1060 West Addison Street in Chicago.

Posted by jpeterso on 5/10/2020 11:37:00 AM (view original):
3dayrotation is definitely going with a 3 day rotation with Gibson, Catfish, and Gaylord Perry! maybe my user name should be hitandpray...or maybe sprayandpray?

Get some good pinch hitters. He will have to use the bullpen sometimes, and he won't have much of one. Gotta pull off those late-inning comebacks.

Posted by Beernoser on 5/10/2020 12:15:00 PM (view original):
Going round and round with my team too. It fit fine before the dagger. Now I'm having to replace my good players and then to get under budget I have eight players from one team. Grrrr. Also at bats becoming a problem.

Maybe I can make a trade with ET. Trading wouldn't violate the spirit of this league too much, would it? Well maybe just one eeny weenie trade? Have to check with the commissioner. After all, me having a good team is in the best interests of the league.

Let’s just start over.

My assignment was to dagger Vilefileman who had the 52 Yankees, 32 Browns, 22 Red Sox, and 72 Twins -

The 52 yanks are solid all around
32 Browns offer some hitting and no pitching - could dagger Dick Coffman as he is the only decent pitching option here
22 Red Sox have a good dagger option in Jack Quinn bc he is the only pitcher worth a dang on the team and it would force him to roster a bunch of weak hitters. However, I think he could work it out with the cheap substitute options.
72 Twins - provide good hitting and pitching and also provide the only cheap substitute at 2B - This is where the dagger is thrown -

Say goodbye to 1972 Dan Monzon - and say hello to a combination at 2B of either 1932 Ski Milelo (3.9 mil for 700 abs), 1952 Billy Martin (2.7 mil for 440 abs), 1922 Del Pratt (4.7 mil for 700 abs), and 1972 Danny Thompson (4.4 mil for 650 abs). This forces at least 2 mil in wasted cap space. I hope it hurts.

Daggger Yankee Stadium

Posted by redcped on 5/10/2020 12:40:00 PM (view original):

Posted by jpeterso on 5/10/2020 11:37:00 AM (view original):
3dayrotation is definitely going with a 3 day rotation with Gibson, Catfish, and Gaylord Perry! maybe my user name should be hitandpray...or maybe sprayandpray?

Get some good pinch hitters. He will have to use the bullpen sometimes, and he won't have much of one. Gotta pull off those late-inning comebacks.

bullpen? what's that?

I boxed myself in at 2B-didnt have guts to use Rajah.I hope this fits.

C-22-Schang
C-22-Clemons
1B-22-Fournier
1B-22-Bottomley
2B-22-Ward
2B-52-Merson
3B-22-Stock
3B-52-Castiglione
SS-52-Groat
SS-52-Koshorek
OF-22-Meusel
OF-52-Davis
OF-22-Mann
OF-62-Pearson
OF-62-Wagner

P-22-Shawkey
P-22-Bush
P-22-S.Jones
P-22-Murray
P-22-Barfoot
P-62Morgan
P-62-Duren
P-62McBride
P-62-Fowler
P-52-Wilks
Fitting on Mother's Day-a team only a mother could like.
P.S.Cheerleader-Babe Ruth
At Polo Grounds(IV)

I had built three possible rosters depending on the dagger (Collins, Kaline, and Aguirre). In a way, I had built too many options into my rosters (I actually considered putting Harry Hooper at 2B until I saw his .845 FP and 3.1 range). Losing Aguirre forces me into using the '62 Tigers primarily for their cheap fillers with only Norm Cash being a full-time starter (in the OF, no less).

Sticking them in Shibe Park and hoping my pitching can hold up.

2	Lollar, Sherm	1952 Chicago White Sox
2	Wagner, Hal	1942 Philadelphia Athletics
3	Robinson, Eddie	1952 Chicago White Sox
3	Cash, Norm	1962 Detroit Tigers
4	Collins, Eddie	1922 Chicago White Sox
4	McAuliffe, Dick	1962 Detroit Tigers
5	Blair, Buddy	1942 Philadelphia Athletics
5	Krsnich, Rocky	1952 Chicago White Sox
6	Wallaesa, Jack	1942 Philadelphia Athletics
6	McNair, Eric	1942 Philadelphia Athletics
OF	Johnson, Bob	1942 Philadelphia Athletics
OF	Hooper, Harry	1922 Chicago White Sox
OF	Morton, Bubba	1962 Detroit Tigers
OF	Goldy, Purnal	1962 Detroit Tigers
OF	Maxwell, Charlie	1962 Detroit Tigers

Dobson, Joe	1952 Chicago White Sox
Pierce, Billy	1952 Chicago White Sox
Faber, Red	1922 Chicago White Sox
Leverett, Dixie	1922 Chicago White Sox
Blankenship, Ted	1922 Chicago White Sox
Kretlow, Lou	1952 Chicago White Sox
Fox, Terry	1962 Detroit Tigers
Kennedy, Bill	1952 Chicago White Sox
Mack, Frank	1922 Chicago White Sox
Beckmann, Bill	1942 Philadelphia Athletics

SoxYanks:
Sorry for the delay. Say goodbye to Johnny Bench and Shea Stadium.

Okay -- I made my decisions. The dagger made me kill off Hack Miller and Doug Decinces and that left me 1.5 million to spend. I ended up throwing it into pitching. That left my outfield weaker than I'd like especially maybe short of at bats. Anyways, here it goes....

I've tried to think of a name, but nothing has come yet. The team seems to lack a focus or theme.

22 Cubs (7)- O'Farrell (c), Grimes (1B), Krug (3B), Keen (P), Hollacher (SS), Alexander (P), Friberg (OF)
52 Tigers (6) Kolloway (1B), Kell (3B), Newhouser (P), Hutchinson (P), Wertz (OF), Mapes (OF)
52 Reds (6) Pellagrini (2B), Hiller (P), Nuxhall (P), Podbielen (P), Rossi (C), Raffensburger
82 Angels (6) Grich (2B), Foli (SS), Reggie Jackson (OF), Lynn (OF), Forsch (P), Zahn (P)

Could someone check my team out? I've messed with it so many times, there's no telling what's in there.

		C	1922 Bob O'Farrell	R	506	413	4	60	5-3	34-79	98.0	.324	.439	.441	C/C	$5,227,643
		1B	1922 Ray Grimes	R	627	536	14	99	7-7	33-75	36.4	.354	.442	.572	C-/C+	$6,130,866
		2B	1982 Bobby Grich	R	605	506	19	65	3-3	109-82	26.6	.261	.371	.449	B+/A	$5,349,181
		3B	1922 Marty Krug	R	552	474	4	60	7-9	43-43	112.5	.276	.343	.371	C-/C+	$2,945,808
		SS	1922 Charlie Hollocher	L	728	623	3	69	19-29	5-58	197.3	.340	.403	.444	B/B	$6,891,578
		OF	1952 Vic Wertz	L	350	300	17	51	1-0	44-46	16.8	.246	.352	.498	C/D	$2,169,799
		OF	1982 Fred Lynn	L	545	472	21	86	7-8	72-58	22.5	.299	.374	.517	A-/B	$5,211,497
		OF	1982 Reggie Jackson	L	621	530	39	101	4-5	156-85	13.6	.275	.375	.532	C/D-	$4,271,418
		C	1952 Joe Rossi	R	175	153	1	6	1-0	20-20	145.0	.221	.319	.255	C/C	$996,103
		1B	1952 Don Kolloway	R	196	182	2	21	0-2	19-7	86.5	.243	.280	.329	D/D	$698,344
		2B	1952 Eddie Pellagrini	R	114	106	1	3	1-0	18-8	100.0	.170	.231	.220	B/C+	$358,240
		3B	1952 George Kell	R	180	160	1	17	0-1	13-15	152.0	.296	.359	.368	B/D	$955,559
		SS	1982 Tim Foli	R	528	480	3	56	2-4	22-14	160.0	.252	.273	.308	A/C+	$2,951,134
		OF	1922 Bernie Friberg	R	361	312	0	23	8-10	37-37	296.0	.311	.391	.351	C+/D+	$2,079,407
		OF	1952 Cliff Mapes	L	233	204	9	23	0-1	42-27	21.4	.197	.295	.373	D+/D-	$953,012
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Batting Totals					6321	5451	138	740	65-82	667-654	38.2	.286	.367	.433	C+/C	$47,189,589

Noser: this is my 99% sure squad.


Team Type: Full Season (TOC eligible) Draft Picks Remaining: 0 Required PA/162 Remaining: 0 Required IP/162 Remaining: 0
Salary Cap: $80,000,000 Current Payroll: $79,834,394 Position Salaries: $44,950,186 Pitcher Salaries: $34,884,208 Available Cash: $165,606
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Position Players

		Pos	Player	B	PA/162	AB/162	HR	RBI	SB-CS	SO-BB	AB/HR	AVG	OBP	SLG	F/R	Salary
		C	1922 Johnny Gooch	S	422	372	1	42	1-1	15-39	353.0	.329	.403	.397	C-/C	$3,750,922
		1B	1972 Willie Stargell	L	595	518	33	112	1-1	129-65	15.0	.293	.373	.558	D/C	$4,714,257
		2B	1922 Cotton Tierney	R	514	464	7	86	7-8	40-22	63.0	.345	.378	.515	C/D-	$3,801,611
		3B	1972 Richie Hebner	L	515	447	19	72	0-0	54-52	22.5	.300	.378	.508	A/D-	$4,035,401
		SS	1922 Chuck Ward	R	109	96	0	14	1-1	8-5	91.0	.275	.320	.352	D+/D-	$432,697
		OF	1922 Zack Wheat	L	695	632	16	112	9-6	22-45	37.5	.335	.388	.503	A/C-	$5,912,042
		OF	1922 Max Carey	S	771	662	10	70	51-2	26-80	62.9	.329	.408	.459	C/A+	$7,372,038
		OF	1922 Carson Bigbee	L	727	646	5	99	24-15	13-56	122.8	.350	.405	.471	D+/B-	$5,894,670
		C	1922 Frank Gibson	S	190	174	3	20	4-1	27-10	54.7	.299	.339	.421	C+/D	$1,964,872
		1B	1922 Snake Henry	L	76	70	0	5	2-2	8-2	66.0	.197	.221	.288	C/D+	$232,267
		2B	1922 Jimmy Johnston	R	650	597	4	49	18-9	17-38	141.8	.319	.364	.400	D/A	$4,886,789
		SS	1972 Jackie Hernandez	R	195	184	1	14	0-0	43-9	176.0	.188	.227	.256	D/D+	$558,667
		3B	1972 Jose Pagan	R	144	133	3	8	0-0	17-5	42.3	.252	.284	.394	D/D-	$574,145
		OF	1922 Bernie Neis	S	90	74	1	9	3-2	8-13	70.0	.229	.349	.357	D-/D-	$440,515
		OF	1922 Johnny Mokan	R	106	94	0	8	0-1	3-9	89.0	.258	.327	.315	D-/D-	$379,293
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Batting Totals					5799	5163	103	720	121-49	430-450	47.7	.313	.373	.455	C-/C-	$44,950,186

Pitching Staff

		Role	Player	T	W-L-S	IP/162	ERA	OAV	WHIP	K/9	BB/9	HR/9	K-BB	Salary
		SP	1972 Bob Moose	R	13-10-1	237	2.91	.248	1.15	5.73	1.87	0.44	144-47	$6,435,946
		SP/RP	1972 Nelson Briles	R	14-11-0	205	3.08	.249	1.17	5.52	1.98	0.64	120-43	$5,074,245
		SP/RP	1972 Dock Ellis	R	15-7-0	171	2.70	.253	1.16	5.29	1.82	0.33	96-33	$4,495,216
		SP/RP	1922 Babe Adams	R	8-11-0	181	3.57	.287	1.20	2.05	0.79	0.05	39-15	$5,814,896
		SP/RP	1922 Dazzy Vance	R	18-12-0	259	3.70	.276	1.44	4.91	3.44	0.33	134-94	$5,897,805
		SP/RP	1922 Harry Hulihan	L	2-3-0	43	3.15	.274	1.65	3.60	5.85	0.00	16-26	$840,068
		SP/RP	1922 Art Decatur	R	3-4-1	93	2.77	.265	1.32	3.18	2.98	0.31	31-29	$2,099,218
		SP/RP	1922 Tim McNamara	R	3-4-0	75	2.42	.225	1.15	2.04	3.31	0.25	16-26	$2,089,728
		SP/RP	1922 Johnny Cooney	L	1-2-0	27	2.16	.224	1.00	2.52	2.16	0.00	7-6	$946,597
		SP/RP	1922 Garland Braxton	L	1-2-0	71	3.38	.286	1.49	2.03	3.24	0.41	15-24	$1,190,489
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Pitching Totals					78-66-2	1,362	3.13	.262	1.26	4.31	2.39	0.34	618-343	$34,884,208