Well, that's a pretty useless 1.2M to spend....small roster changes and I'm back on track with SP Joe McGinnity to wrap up the draft. Good luck everyone!

Posted by asdlfef on 5/31/2020 8:11:00 AM (view original):
Well, that's a pretty useless 1.2M to spend....small roster changes and I'm back on track with SP Joe McGinnity to wrap up the draft. Good luck everyone!

Eufemia is definitely a curious choice given the remaining options. I've never even heard of the guy.

The draft is complete. I will get a league number this evening.

Remember, your 25th player can be anyone who was not drafted.

For everyone's reference, here are the final rosters for each owner. Some really good ones in here.

ejstockman teamhydro jvt87 bheid408 Ed Walsh Clayton Kershaw Christy Mathewson Tris Speaker Wade Boggs Ed Walsh Clayton Kershaw Christy Mathewson Jacob Degrom Roger Connor Ed Delahanty Greg Maddux Roger Connor Ed Delahanty Greg Maddux Justin Verlander Benny Kauff Joe Nathan Billy Hamilton Ted Williams Cy Morgan Frank Baker Jimmie Foxx George Sisler Blake Treinen Chad Green Mike Adams Charlie Gehringer Norm Charlton Rickey Henderson Corey Kluber Hughie Jennings Aroldis Chapman Rich Hill Eddie Mathews JJ Putz Luis Castillo Doc White Rod Carew Cesar Cedeno Edd Rouch Dellin Betances Pee Wee Reese George Brett Wade Davis Jason Schmidt Willie McCovey Lindy McDaniel John Kerins Sam Rice Mark Melancon Tim Burke Jim Bottomley Andrew Miller Ken Griffey Jr. Vada Pinson Max Carey Goose Goslin Dennys Reyes Steve Howe Harmon Killebrew Jackie Robinson Oscar Gamble Ray Caldwell Omar Vizquel Freddy Galvis Wally Schang Jack Clements Dave Anderson Nick Punto Bill Henry Bobby Jenks Tommy Milone Buck Weaver Randy Tomlin Victor Martinez Gary Pettis Jim Brewer Todd Pratt Gary Gaetti Rob Murphy Michael Barrett Nels Potter Terrance Gore Jose Oquendo Don Sutton Nelson Cruz Sergio Ferrer Johnny Estrada Jim O'Rourke Fred Heimach Charlie Smith Josh Tomlin Ernie Johnson Howie Kendrick John Wehner cholatse gwhouse Jtpsops northof49 Russ Ford Nap Lajoie Ty Cobb Claude Hendrix Honus Wagner Russ Ford Nap Lajoie Ty Cobb Ron Guidry Al Simmons Pete Alexander Mordecai Brown Al Simmons Pete Alexander Mordecai Brown Rafael Soriano Frank Baker Jimmie Foxx George Sisler Eddie Cicotte Benny Kauff Joe Nathan Billy Hamilton Ted Williams Norm Charlton Rickey Henderson Corey Kluber Hughie Jennings Chad Green Mike Adams Charlie Gehringer Harry Brecheen Deacon Phillippe Larry Walker Cla Meredith Jesse Burkett John McGraw Jake McGee Hoyt Wilhelm Vic Willis Jose Leclerc Ferdie Schupp Takashi Saito Todd Helton Chase Utley Luke Appling Juan Berenguer Fred Anderson Kiki Cuyler Brandon Crawford Koji Uehara Eddie Stanky Pete Rose Joey Devine Ted Simmons Tim Lincecum Hooks Wiltse Gene Tenace Billy Rogell Carlton Fisk Manny Ramirez Ken Giles Jesse Crain Chipper Jones Buck Ewing Rance Mullinik Jeremy Fikac Kenny Lofton Jonathan Papelbon Steve Ontiveros Jack Heidemann Brooks Robinson Joe Sambito Frank McCormick Dwayne Hosey Tim Foli Putsy Caballero Gio Gonzalez Cookie Rojas Jamie Quirk Charlie Keller Jarrod Dyson Jack Quinn Solly Hofman Toad Ramsey Dal Maxvill Octavio Dotel Eric Wedge Sam Dyson Curt Blefary Bibb Falk Red Kress Joe McGinnity Terry Fox Marlon Anderson Aaron Nola Bradsher kentol midknight The Taint Babe Ruth Jack Pfiester Mickey Mantle Walter Johnson Tris Speaker Babe Ruth Jack Pfiester Mickey Mantle Justin Verlander Roger Clemens Rogers Hornsby Frank Smith Roger Clemens Rogers Hornsby Frank Smith Stan Musial Frank Robinson Albert Pujols Vida Blue Kenley Jansen Eddie Cicotte George McQuillan Mickey Cochrane Eric Gagne Harry Brecheen Joe Medwick Tim Raines Jake Northrop Tony Gwynn Dutch Leonard Robin Yount Madison Bumgarner John McGraw Jake McGee Hoyt Wilhelm Vic Willis Nolan Ryan Mike Schmidt Craig Kimbrel Gary Carter Lou Boudreau Bill Dickey Dazzy Vance Pie Traynor Jose Leclerc Ferdie Schupp Takashi Saito Todd Helton Tony Phillips Alan Trammall Pete Rose Joey Devine Zach Britton Fernando Rodney John Kerins Sam Rice Joaquin Benoit Bernie Williams Harmon Killebrew Jackie Robinson Joe McEwing Pat Jarvis Hooks Wiltse Gene Tenace Shawn Kelley Nick Maddox Andy Messersmith Bill Henry Gabby Hartnett Omar Vizquel Freddy Galvis Lloyd Waner Josh Hader Gary Pettis Jim Brewer Jack Glasscock Roberto Pena Tug McGraw Thurman Munson Randy Tomlin Ramon Santiago Andy Rincon Anthony Rendon Lucky Wright Rob Murphy Michael Barrett Nels Potter Terrance Gore Josh Tomlin Ernie Johnson Howie Kendrick John Wehner Joe Berry Bud Messenger David Robertson Joe Smith asdlfef mllama54 footballmm11 fatguyrd Lou Gehrig Pedro Martinez Dennis Eckersley Carl Lundgren Claude Hendrix Lou Gehrig Pedro Martinez Dennis Eckersley Rafael Soriano Alex Rodriguez Mel Ott Barry Bonds Alex Rodriguez Mel Ott Barry Bonds Joe Mauer George McQuillan Mickey Cochrane Eric Gagne Mark McGwire Frank Robinson Albert Pujols Vida Blue Kenley Jansen Tony Gwynn Dutch Leonard Robin Yount Madison Bumgarner Joe Medwick Tim Raines Jake Northrop Joe Horlen Doc White Rod Carew Cesar Cedeno Mike Schmidt Cisco Carlos Jake Stenzel Eric Young Deacon Phillippe Robinson Cano John Smoltz Javy Lopez Chase Utley Dellin Betances Pee Wee Reese George Brett Bill Dickey Mark Loretta Trevor Hoffman Andrew Miller Ken Griffey Jr. Elston Howard Zack Greinke Kiki Cuyler Brandon Crawford Mike Trout Garland Braxton Manny Ramirez Ken Giles Greg McMichael Joe Cronin Goose Goslin Dennys Reyes Scott Rolen Lloyd Waner Jake Arrieta Dave Anderson Buck Ewing Pat Neshek Rance Mulliniks Jeremy Fikac Patsy Caballero Dave Smith Gio Gonzalez Cookie Rojas John Olerud Jack Glasscock Kyle Farmer Tommy Milone Roy Patterson Armando Benitez Chris Sale Jim Poole Charlie Keller Jarrod Dyson Jack Quinn Solly Hofman Joe McGinnity Terry Fox Marlon Anderson Aaron Nola Frank Eufemia Mike Jacobs Rhys Hoskins Aaron Ledesma Fusion27s skinndogg Navy2002 dahsdebater Babe Adams Harry Heilmann Addie Joss Honus Wagner Walter Johnson Babe Adams Harry Heilmann Addie Joss Stan Musial Joe Jackson Chief Bender Bill Bernhard Joe Jackson Chief Bender Bill Bernhard Ron Guidry Frankie Frisch Dan Brouthers Mariano Rivera Cy Seymour Mark McGwire Billy Wagner Randy Johnson Richie Ashburn Joe Horlen Rich Gossage Lance Johnson Heinie Zimmerman Derek Jeter Eddie Collins Dave Bancroft Paul Waner Cisco Carlo Jake Stenzel Eric Young Cap Anson Aroldis Chapman Rich Hill Eddie Mathews JJ Putz Wade Davis Jason Schmidt Willie McCovey Lindy McDaniel Robinson Cano John Smoltz Javy Lopez Roberto Alomar Ted Simmons Tim Lincecum Elston Howard Zack Greinke Mark Melancon Tim Burke Tony Phillips Alan Trammell Oscar Gamble Ray Caldwell Joe McEwing Pat Jarvis Billy Rogell Carlton Fisk Mike Trout Garland Braxton Steve Ontiveros Jack Heidemann Brooks obinson Pat Neshek Jack Clements Shawn Kelley Nick Maddox Andy Messersmith Gary Gaetti Roberto Pena Tug McGraw Thurman Munson Frank McCormick Dwayne Hosey Tim Foli Dave Smith Toad Ramsey Dal Maxvill Octavio Dotel Eric Wedge Ramon Santiago Andy Rincon Anthony Rendon Lucky Wright Joe Berry Bud Messenger David Robertson Joe Smith Sam Dyson Curt Blefary Bibb Falk Red Kress dweezil Dougsdawgs13 darny10 pstuts73 Sandy Koufax Willie Mays Johan Santana Wade Boggs Carl Lundgren Sandy Koufax Willie Mays Johan Santana Joe Mauer Joe Dimaggio Dallas Keuchel Cy Young Joe Dimaggio Dallas Keuchel Cy Young Jacob Degrom Billy Wagner Randy Johnson Richie Ashburn Cy Morgan Frankie Frisch Dan Brouthers Mariano Rivera Cy Seymour Derek Jeter Eddie Collins Dave Bancroft Paul Waner Rich Gossage Lance Johnson Heinie Zimmerman Blake Treinen Nolan Ryan Craig Kimbrel Gary Carter Luis Castillo Cap Anson Larry Walker Cla Meredith Jesse Burkett Roberto Alomar Luke Appling Juan Berenguer Fred Anderson Lou Boudreau Dazzy Vance Pie Traynor Edd Roush Vada Pinson Zach Britton Fernando Rodney Jim Bottomley Koji Uehara Eddie Stanky Mark Loretta Trevor Hoffman Jesse Crain Chipper Jones Greg McMichael Joe Cronin Steve Howe Juaquin Benoit Bernie Williams Max Carey Nick Punto Jonathan Papelbon Bobby Jenks Gabby Hartnett Kenny Lofton Wally Schang Scott Rolen Jake Arrieta Jamie Quirk Todd Pratt John Olerud Kyle Farmer Buck Weaver Joe Sambito Victor Martinez Josh Hader Don Sutton Nelson Cruz Sergio Ferrer Jose Oquendo Roy Patterson Armando Benitez Chris Sale Jim Poole Frank Eufemia Mike Jacobs Rhys Hoskins Aaron Ledesma Jim O'Rourke Fred Heimach Charlie Smith Johnny Estrada

I have got to admit, I can be an old crotchety fart at times and will do my share of complaining. This was possibly the most interesting and fun draft I have participated in WIS. Jtpsops great concept and glad you stuck with it despite some early questioning of your logic.

Good luck to everyone!

Posted by midknight on 5/31/2020 11:52:00 AM (view original):
I have got to admit, I can be an old crotchety fart at times and will do my share of complaining. This was possibly the most interesting and fun draft I have participated in WIS. Jtpsops great concept and glad you stuck with it despite some early questioning of your logic.

Good luck to everyone!

Thank you. I thought it was important to get feedback early so we could avoid any issues during the draft. I'm also happy to take any post-draft criticism of things people didn't like, or think can be improved, if I run this again.

My only criticism is I found myself drafting before or after the same person on many occasions. A little more variety of draft order would be cool in another run.

Posted by asdlfef on 5/31/2020 1:23:00 PM (view original):
My only criticism is I found myself drafting before or after the same person on many occasions. A little more variety of draft order would be cool in another run.

That's not accurate. Keep in mind that every two rounds, the draft snakes back. So you're going to be giving to/receiving from the same two owners in each two-round cycle. Below is who you were sandwiched between in each 2-round cycle:

1/2: northof49 & mllama54
3/4: Bradsher & kentol
5/6: Fusion27s & teamhydro
7/8: Navy2002 & darny10
9/10: cholatse & darny10
11/12: dweezil & cholatse

cholatse and darny10 are the only 2 owners you "exchanged" picks with on more than one occasion. I think it would be difficult to avoid this completely and still have an even distribution of picks.

Fair enough. If there is a way to avoid 3x+ picks with an owner next go around it would just strengthen an already good concept is all I was getting at.

I can see how it would be tedious to deal with at least one of the same owners for six consecutive rounds, not ideally randomized. On the other hand, Dougsdawgs and I picked together for four consecutive rounds and didn't appear to do each other any serious damage. It's the picks rather than the pickers.