I thought he looked great too. His acceleration and conviction looked like the first few weeks of last year, before he got hurt. He's not 2016 David Johnson, but he's a good back.

I will point out that the Chiefs run D is pretty soft usually and was missing some starters as well, so he could regress in the future.

we'll see. He was flat awesome his rookie year and then after that just seemed afraid to hit the hole in Phoenix. Of course being it was Phoenix there weren't a lot of big holes for him to hit, but he just ran tentative, if that really. Never exhibited that burst he had as a rookie. Looked to me like he lost his will, and his confidence. If he's back then the Texans didn't get burned as bad on that trade......... but still.

Posted by all3 on 9/11/2020 10:16:00 AM (view original):
Accusations are NOT convictions.

You mean unless it's Trump, right? You, and many others, have convicted him of everything short of Kennedy's assassination.

Unless ye can get your personal attorney/fixer of 10 years to buy off the tabloids and kill any such accusations from becoming public in the first place

It's still a bad trade. The whole idea was that they felt they had to trade Hopkins because they couldn't afford to sign him. That's fine. But even if the market was as small as Bill O'Brien is trying to suggest, what are the chances somebody wouldn't have given them at least a 2nd-round pick? Look at the backs drafted in the 2nd round in the past 5 years: Miles Sanders, Nick Chubb, Kerryon Johnson, Ronald Jones, Derrius Guice, Joe Mixon, Dalvin Cook, Derrick Henry, T.J. Yeldon, Ameer Abdullah. It's obviously not a 100% hit rate, but there are a lot of very good backs in that group. If the whole problem is cap space - which makes sense with what they had to pay Watson - then wouldn't you rather have an early draft pick to go after a guy on a rookie contract?

And by the way - David Johnson looked good the first 4 or 5 games of last year. Like really good. Then he got hurt and stopped hitting the hole with authority. It's hard to say how much of that was mental and how much was physical, but if you have a back whose only going to have the confidence to run really hard when he's 100% healthy you're in trouble. How many RBs are 100% healthy for 16 games a year?

With Jones and Johnson it may not be likely to last, but 7 of those 10 2nd-round backs are currently listed #1 on the depth chart of an NFL team.

Good perspective. Here in AZ the prevailing consensus was that Johnson's performance drop-off resulted in his contract being an albatross to get anything FOR him. Steve Keim pulled off a huge coup offing Johnson's contract while getting back a talent like Hopkins.

Now they've locked Hopkins up for years so whatever Johnson does in Houston the Cardinals can live with. I think there was still some belief in Johnson's ability to re-gain his form as a RB, but the CONTRACT (that THEY signed him to!), I think, became too large for them to wager further on him, so when Houston bit, they jumped!

Posted by bronxcheer on 9/11/2020 5:08:00 PM (view original):

Posted by all3 on 9/11/2020 10:16:00 AM (view original):
Accusations are NOT convictions.

You mean unless it's Trump, right? You, and many others, have convicted him of everything short of Kennedy's assassination.

Unless ye can get your personal attorney/fixer of 10 years to buy off the tabloids and kill any such accusations from becoming public in the first place

And of course Trump didn't kill JFK - he told us it was Ted Cruz's dad!

Well, that's closer to the truth that what you usually are. He said Cruz's Dad was with Oswald before Oswald did it. Don't worry, everybody here knows you have ZERO regard for the actual truth and facts. Again, your consistency for disregarding and/or twisting the truth is remarkable. You are actually approaching tang-level BS status. You make Trump look honest.