Savage II - Divisions Topic

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9/15/2020 9:46 AM
I'm in the hardest division in every league (by vote) except one, and I'm in the 2nd hardest one by record in that one (it is correctly 100% in favor of another division)
9/16/2020 8:07 PM
By the numbers
  • World 1
    • Pacific: 210 wins
    • Central: 196 wins
    • Atlantic and Midwest: 187 wins
  • World 2
    • Central :220 wins
    • Pacific: 194 wins
    • Midwest: 191 wins
    • Atlantic: 175 wins
  • World 3
    • Atlantic: 211 wins
    • Pacific: 203 wins
    • Midwest: 193 wins
    • Central: 173 wins
  • World 4
    • Central: 207 wins
    • Pacific: 201 wins
    • Atlantic: 192 wins
    • Midwest: 180 wins
  • World 5
    • Central: 198 wins
    • Atlantic and Pacific: 196 wins
    • Midwest: 190 wins
9/30/2020 5:39 PM
Damn, between my 5 teams: two in the hardest division, two in the second hardest division, and one in the softest.

These divisions suck. What ******* wrote the program to distribute the teams again?
9/30/2020 5:41 PM
If you were to score owners using a system where you sum the wins for the division and then sum each owners corresponding division sum, here are the owners with the toughest division in descending order to the owners with the weakest divisions:
Row Labels Sum of Column1
ashamael 1021
24kpyrite 1020
benhoidal 1015
dBKC 1008
bds9992 1005
robusk 995
amerk1180 986
longtallbrad 984
gerryred 978
mptrey 977
dh555 977
pexetera 977
mikee1 975
dskantor 970
ysw128 964
goetz93 962
jhsukow 962
cmcafeeky 957
jcred5 956
albiband0 952
jpevans31 951
20ks 949
tarheel1991 945
pharrop 914
9/30/2020 5:47 PM
Posted by robusk on 9/30/2020 5:47:00 PM (view original):
If you were to score owners using a system where you sum the wins for the division and then sum each owners corresponding division sum, here are the owners with the toughest division in descending order to the owners with the weakest divisions:
Row Labels Sum of Column1
ashamael 1021
24kpyrite 1020
benhoidal 1015
dBKC 1008
bds9992 1005
robusk 995
amerk1180 986
longtallbrad 984
gerryred 978
mptrey 977
dh555 977
pexetera 977
mikee1 975
dskantor 970
ysw128 964
goetz93 962
jhsukow 962
cmcafeeky 957
jcred5 956
albiband0 952
jpevans31 951
20ks 949
tarheel1991 945
pharrop 914
This is beautiful.
9/30/2020 9:44 PM
Posted by ashamael on 9/30/2020 9:44:00 PM (view original):
Posted by robusk on 9/30/2020 5:47:00 PM (view original):
If you were to score owners using a system where you sum the wins for the division and then sum each owners corresponding division sum, here are the owners with the toughest division in descending order to the owners with the weakest divisions:
Row Labels Sum of Column1
ashamael 1021
24kpyrite 1020
benhoidal 1015
dBKC 1008
bds9992 1005
robusk 995
amerk1180 986
longtallbrad 984
gerryred 978
mptrey 977
dh555 977
pexetera 977
mikee1 975
dskantor 970
ysw128 964
goetz93 962
jhsukow 962
cmcafeeky 957
jcred5 956
albiband0 952
jpevans31 951
20ks 949
tarheel1991 945
pharrop 914
This is beautiful.
I think need to subtract the owners own wins from the totals but got busy this afternoon. Might update the formula tomorrow or late tonight.
9/30/2020 10:43 PM
Posted by robusk on 9/30/2020 10:43:00 PM (view original):
Posted by ashamael on 9/30/2020 9:44:00 PM (view original):
Posted by robusk on 9/30/2020 5:47:00 PM (view original):
If you were to score owners using a system where you sum the wins for the division and then sum each owners corresponding division sum, here are the owners with the toughest division in descending order to the owners with the weakest divisions:
Row Labels Sum of Column1
ashamael 1021
24kpyrite 1020
benhoidal 1015
dBKC 1008
bds9992 1005
robusk 995
amerk1180 986
longtallbrad 984
gerryred 978
mptrey 977
dh555 977
pexetera 977
mikee1 975
dskantor 970
ysw128 964
goetz93 962
jhsukow 962
cmcafeeky 957
jcred5 956
albiband0 952
jpevans31 951
20ks 949
tarheel1991 945
pharrop 914
This is beautiful.
I think need to subtract the owners own wins from the totals but got busy this afternoon. Might update the formula tomorrow or late tonight.
That’s what I was going to suggest
9/30/2020 11:10 PM
Adjusted for the above:
Row Labels Sum of AdjDivWins
albiband0 855
ashamael 847
benhoidal 845
jpevans31 842
robusk 836
ysw128 836
24kpyrite 833
amerk1180 831
jhsukow 828
goetz93 819
dskantor 819
bds9992 816
mikee1 815
jcred5 809
dBKC 808
longtallbrad 802
gerryred 802
cmcafeeky 799
mptrey 795
20ks 789
dh555 789
tarheel1991 774
pexetera 768
pharrop 743
10/1/2020 1:15 AM
Man, all this additional analysis does really open my eyes to so much new context.
10/1/2020 1:16 AM
I wish I would have done this in season one.
10/1/2020 1:17 AM
In other words, what I already knew - my teams have been pretty meh despite being in easy divisions. Disappointing.
10/1/2020 1:03 PM
Better lucky than good, I guess.
10/1/2020 1:06 PM
to look at the last list, you'd think albi had the hardest divisional draws, but he's not in the hard divisions, so it's a wrong conclusion. I don't quite follow the rationale behind subtracting owners wins from the total wins for their divisions because every owners wins are what makes it a hard division.

To put it another way... part of why dBKC's divisions are hard is because dBKC is in them. you can't subtract dBKC's wins from his divisional total and then conclude he has a below average difficulty division draw (15th). Summing all 5 division wins for every owner is a good way to look at degree of difficulty (the list where ash was at the top), but you shouldn't subtract each owner's wins from their divisional total (the list where albi is at the top).
10/1/2020 1:42 PM
Owners don’t get to play themselves. It is a summary look at the owners they play against the most.

If you want to make the counter argument, you aren’t using the right foundation to make it. The case against the adjusted list is that by virtue of having bad teams, the owners with the worst records inflate the wins of those in their division.

Both lists are flawed. That’s the thing about numbers, we can post them all day but understanding what to make of them is up to the viewer. None of them are definitive.
10/1/2020 1:49 PM
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