TWISL: Defense & Pitcher Value Discussion Topic

Just putting a place together where we can share interesting observations, thoughts on how the experiment is going, etc...
1/25/2021 3:13 PM
From a high level I plan on posting weekly updates highlighting W/L records, Raw # of errors, FLD%, RA/9, OAV+E, WHIP+E, HR allowed, and HR/9 allowed for each the Deadball and Modern teams (combined into each group, as well as contrasted individually to their identical counterpart). Are there any other metrics or benchmarks any of you would like to see me highlight and track as we go? After the season is over, I'll post a more robust summary with my thoughts and I will also invite input and interpretations from each of you on your thoughts on how this worked and what we have learned and/or take away from this test.
2/3/2021 2:04 PM
I will also likely point out any individual player performances that seem to stand out in any fashion towards any of these metrics or in any way that might speak to the goals of the league.
2/3/2021 2:06 PM
I'll cleanup the format in the future, but hopefully this is useful for now:

Team G CG SHO W L SV SVO IP H R ER HR BB SO OAV WHIP ERA PO A E DP FPCT W% OAV+E WHIP+E RA/9 HR/9 TEAM TYPE
Deadball Pitching & Bad Defense @ Target 22 1 0 7 15 5 7 191.67 227 140 97 19 83 71 0.284 1.62 4.55 575 253 43 70 0.951 0.318 0.320 1.84 6.57 0.89 Deadball
Defense Test: Deadball 22 0 0 16 6 6 7 197.33 216 106 88 12 49 31 0.271 1.34 4.01 592 275 29 44 0.968 0.727 0.293 1.49 4.83 0.55 Deadball
Old Cubs 22 0 0 6 16 3 5 194.00 216 122 109 4 88 50 0.278 1.57 5.06 582 267 26 67 0.970 0.273 0.294 1.70 5.66 0.19 Deadball
Old Cy 22 1 0 13 9 8 9 194.67 183 87 68 6 124 78 0.244 1.58 3.14 584 233 25 45 0.970 0.591 0.263 1.71 4.02 0.28 Deadball
Old: Full of Krapp & Duryea 22 1 1 15 7 9 9 205.00 176 77 65 3 84 82 0.228 1.27 2.85 615 270 19 76 0.979 0.682 0.241 1.36 3.38 0.13 Deadball
Talking to Tesla 22 0 0 14 8 10 11 197.00 188 69 55 2 44 73 0.244 1.18 2.51 591 265 20 46 0.977 0.636 0.260 1.28 3.15 0.09 Deadball
TWISL - Deadball Pitchers 22 1 0 13 9 6 11 200.00 245 115 97 14 66 61 0.295 1.56 4.37 600 279 35 86 0.962 0.591 0.318 1.73 5.18 0.63 Deadball
Twisl 1888-1919 Arms 22 0 0 12 10 6 7 192.00 179 88 71 11 48 54 0.237 1.18 3.33 576 274 30 59 0.966 0.545 0.266 1.34 4.13 0.52 Deadball
TWISL Deadballers 22 0 0 14 8 9 13 199.67 196 80 60 8 69 74 0.247 1.33 2.70 599 241 37 38 0.958 0.636 0.280 1.51 3.61 0.36 Deadball
TWISL DOGGS DEADBALLERS ARE ALL DEAD 22 0 0 9 13 6 9 205.67 220 88 75 3 61 82 0.269 1.37 3.28 617 269 25 71 0.973 0.409 0.284 1.49 3.85 0.13 Deadball
TWISL Old 22 0 0 10 12 6 7 195.00 212 72 65 2 40 58 0.276 1.29 3.00 585 254 9 58 0.989 0.455 0.274 1.34 3.32 0.09 Deadball
TWISL: Deadball Fielding Test 22 0 0 10 12 4 5 193.67 211 98 69 7 52 67 0.269 1.36 3.21 581 249 39 75 0.955 0.455 0.301 1.56 4.55 0.33 Deadball
Defense Test: Modern 22 1 1 13 9 4 7 195.67 165 65 58 10 42 117 0.222 1.06 2.67 587 226 18 42 0.978 0.591 0.238 1.15 2.99 0.46 Modern
Doggs Modern Day Hurlers 22 0 0 8 14 4 7 195.00 209 115 103 24 68 121 0.266 1.42 4.75 585 210 17 27 0.979 0.364 0.279 1.51 5.31 1.11 Modern
Driving a Tesla 22 0 0 8 14 5 8 194.33 226 127 105 18 74 113 0.283 1.54 4.86 583 223 19 53 0.977 0.364 0.296 1.64 5.88 0.83 Modern
Modern Pitching & Bad Defense at Target 22 1 1 10 12 4 8 191.00 225 124 105 16 67 78 0.286 1.53 4.95 573 234 30 61 0.964 0.455 0.308 1.69 5.84 0.75 Modern
New: My Johnson Needs Orel 22 0 0 13 9 6 10 197.00 160 88 74 22 71 114 0.218 1.17 3.38 591 224 19 54 0.977 0.591 0.232 1.27 4.02 1.01 Modern
TWISL - Modern Pitchers 22 0 0 17 5 9 10 199.00 194 84 73 16 48 85 0.246 1.22 3.30 597 252 30 54 0.966 0.773 0.273 1.37 3.80 0.72 Modern
Twisl 1985-2016 Arms 22 2 1 11 11 3 6 197.00 182 82 66 14 63 102 0.242 1.24 3.02 591 234 17 46 0.980 0.500 0.252 1.33 3.75 0.64 Modern
TWISL Modern-ish 22 0 0 10 12 5 8 196.00 212 109 101 12 72 82 0.269 1.45 4.64 588 230 21 44 0.975 0.455 0.284 1.56 5.01 0.55 Modern
TWISL New 22 0 0 9 13 5 7 194.00 248 114 109 13 36 111 0.305 1.46 5.06 582 239 9 17 0.989 0.409 0.306 1.51 5.29 0.60 Modern
TWISL: Modern Fielding Test 22 0 0 10 12 4 8 198.00 238 122 103 22 58 101 0.292 1.49 4.68 594 244 24 65 0.972 0.455 0.306 1.62 5.55 1.00 Modern
Young Wakefield 22 0 0 12 10 6 8 195.00 196 111 100 23 87 139 0.254 1.45 4.62 585 200 28 34 0.966 0.545 0.277 1.59 5.12 1.06 Modern
Young Yu 22 1 0 4 18 2 4 197.00 281 212 187 25 117 100 0.327 2.02 8.54 591 237 31 61 0.964 0.182 0.346 2.18 9.69 1.14 Modern
Deadball Totals 264 4 1 139 125 78 100 2365.68 2469 1142 919 91 808 781 0.249 1.39 3.50 7097 3129 337 735 0.968 0.527 0.283 1.53 4.34 0.35 Deadball Total
Modern Totals 264 5 3 125 139 57 91 2349.00 2536 1353 1184 215 803 1263 0.258 1.42 4.54 7047 2753 263 558 0.974 0.473 0.284 1.53 5.18 0.82 Modern Total
Difference 1 2 -14 14 -21 -9 -16.68 67 211 265 124 -5 482 0.008 0.04 1.04 -50 -376 -74 -177 0.006 -0.053 0.001 0.01 0.84 0.48 Modern-Deadball
2/10/2021 1:25 PM
From this first sample, the effect of errors does seem to negate the advantage of deadball pitchers in terms of OAV and WHIP, but the HR advantage still seems to favor overall run allowances of the deadball teams. The errors bring the RA/9 gap closer, but it's still fairly wide and the HR rate seems to be the primary driver in that difference. Obviously, if offenses are the same and you're allowing less runs, you're likely to win more, and right now that difference in W% seems to be mirroring the HR/RA rate difference fairly closely in favor of the deadball teams. It'll be interesting to see how this continues to play out.
2/10/2021 1:28 PM
Seeing the same results so far, though the gap is narrowing. After the first checkin, the gap on ERA was 1.04 in favor of deadball teams and a gap of 0.84 in terms of RA/9. In this second checkin those gaps have both narrowed to 0.85 and 0.66, respectively. The deadball teams have committed 206 more errors thus far, for a FLD% difference of .009. Modern teams still have a narrow (marginally similar) OAV/WHIP after accounting for errors, though the HR/XBH effect still seems to be the biggest factor. It looks like we're also seeing the effect of fatigue as deadball pitchers don't get as many pitches and it seems though they're cheaper per IP, you may need to buy more IP for the same usable IP. We're still early and there's still a good amount of speculation, but the stats are below for perusal:
Team G CG SHO W L SV SVO IP H R ER HR BB SO OAV WHIP ERA PO A E DP FPCT W% OAV+E WHIP+E RA/9 HR/9 TEAM TYPE
TWISL: Deadball Fielding Test 44 0 0 24 20 9 11 391.67 490 248 193 22 91 117 0.297 1.48 4.43 1175 520 77 150 0.957 0.545 0.325 1.68 5.70 0.51 Deadball
TWISL Old 44 0 0 24 20 12 17 395.00 441 153 141 12 100 102 0.283 1.37 3.21 1185 539 18 128 0.990 0.545 0.279 1.42 3.49 0.27 Deadball
TWISL DOGGS DEADBALLERS ARE ALL DEAD 44 0 0 16 28 8 14 401.67 435 195 174 10 118 127 0.272 1.38 3.90 1205 518 46 112 0.974 0.364 0.285 1.49 4.37 0.22 Deadball
TWISL Deadballers 44 1 0 31 13 15 20 395.67 397 173 140 14 142 136 0.252 1.36 3.18 1187 479 63 106 0.964 0.705 0.279 1.52 3.94 0.32 Deadball
Twisl 1888-1919 Arms 44 0 0 29 15 13 18 390.67 383 179 154 21 119 109 0.249 1.28 3.55 1172 550 56 135 0.969 0.659 0.272 1.43 4.12 0.48 Deadball
TWISL - Deadball Pitchers 44 3 0 19 25 9 17 393.00 503 319 242 34 170 101 0.301 1.71 5.54 1179 535 85 151 0.953 0.432 0.333 1.93 7.31 0.78 Deadball
Talking to Tesla 44 1 0 25 19 14 16 395.00 363 151 126 3 102 143 0.238 1.18 2.87 1185 527 44 102 0.975 0.568 0.256 1.29 3.44 0.07 Deadball
Old: Full of Krapp & Duryea 44 2 2 31 13 16 16 402.00 329 159 133 10 179 165 0.217 1.26 2.98 1206 506 51 113 0.971 0.705 0.240 1.39 3.56 0.22 Deadball
Old Cy 44 2 1 26 18 11 13 390.33 383 202 157 11 212 150 0.249 1.52 4.25 1171 491 63 80 0.963 0.591 0.276 1.69 4.66 0.25 Deadball
Old Cubs 44 0 0 16 28 8 12 387.67 386 226 183 7 203 119 0.255 1.52 3.62 1163 518 63 132 0.964 0.364 0.279 1.68 5.25 0.16 Deadball
Defense Test: Deadball 44 0 0 27 17 9 14 395.33 441 228 190 24 116 86 0.276 1.41 4.33 1186 539 55 131 0.969 0.614 0.295 1.55 5.19 0.55 Deadball
Deadball Pitching & Bad Defense @ Target 44 1 0 14 30 7 10 387.67 525 353 258 44 191 131 0.313 1.85 5.99 1163 524 97 155 0.946 0.318 0.348 2.10 8.20 1.02 Deadball
Young Yu 44 3 0 6 38 3 9 383.67 550 430 378 54 269 216 0.331 2.13 8.87 1151 479 50 108 0.970 0.136 0.343 2.26 ##### 1.27 Modern
Young Wakefield 44 0 0 26 18 14 16 390.00 381 196 172 38 160 279 0.250 1.39 3.97 1170 415 46 82 0.972 0.591 0.267 1.51 4.52 0.88 Modern
TWISL: Modern Fielding Test 44 0 0 19 25 6 10 389.00 485 267 233 45 93 185 0.300 1.49 5.39 1167 467 41 113 0.976 0.432 0.311 1.59 6.18 1.04 Modern
TWISL New 44 1 1 19 25 8 14 389.33 466 218 206 25 79 227 0.292 1.40 4.76 1168 480 24 47 0.986 0.432 0.296 1.46 5.04 0.58 Modern
TWISL Modern-ish 44 0 0 21 23 10 14 387.00 401 208 171 20 128 182 0.261 1.37 3.98 1161 456 48 92 0.971 0.477 0.279 1.49 4.84 0.47 Modern
Twisl 1985-2016 Arms 44 2 1 24 20 8 18 398.67 388 175 142 27 123 205 0.251 1.28 3.21 1196 466 33 89 0.981 0.545 0.260 1.36 3.95 0.61 Modern
TWISL - Modern Pitchers 44 0 0 30 14 10 14 396.00 408 182 157 35 92 181 0.259 1.26 3.57 1188 496 53 111 0.969 0.682 0.280 1.40 4.14 0.80 Modern
New: My Johnson Needs Orel 44 0 0 27 17 16 23 395.67 323 180 150 41 140 241 0.217 1.17 3.41 1187 469 39 108 0.977 0.614 0.234 1.27 4.09 0.93 Modern
Modern Pitching & Bad Defense at Target 44 1 1 12 32 5 13 380.00 541 413 351 48 212 150 0.324 1.98 8.31 1140 481 69 101 0.959 0.273 0.349 2.16 9.78 1.14 Modern
Driving a Tesla 44 0 0 21 23 10 13 392.33 397 210 176 32 127 224 0.256 1.34 4.04 1177 448 39 102 0.977 0.477 0.270 1.44 4.82 0.73 Modern
Doggs Modern Day Hurlers 44 1 1 17 27 7 10 391.00 447 267 241 50 161 227 0.280 1.55 5.55 1173 430 31 68 0.981 0.386 0.290 1.63 6.15 1.15 Modern
Defense Test: Modern 44 2 2 24 20 10 14 395.33 370 161 138 26 84 214 0.240 1.15 3.14 1186 460 39 96 0.977 0.545 0.256 1.25 3.67 0.59 Modern
Deadball Totals 528 10 3 282 246 131 178 4725.68 5076 2586 2091 212 1743 1486 0.254 1.443 3.982 14177 6246 718 1495 0.966 0.534 0.290 1.59 4.93 0.40 Deadball Total
Modern Totals 528 10 6 246 282 107 168 4688.00 5157 2907 2515 441 1668 2531 0.261 1.456 4.828 14064 5547 512 1117 0.975 0.466 0.287 1.57 5.58 0.85 Modern Total
Difference 0 3 -36 36 -24 -10 -37.68 81 321 424 229 -75 1045 0.007 0.013 0.846 -113 -699 -206 -378 0.009 -0.068 -0.003 -0.03 0.66 0.44 Modern-Deadball
2/17/2021 2:29 PM (edited)
Team G CG SHO W L SV SVO IP H R ER HR BB SO OAV WHIP ERA PO A E DP FPCT W% OAV+E WHIP+E RA/9 HR/9 TEAM TYPE
TWISL: Deadball Fielding Test 65 0 0 34 31 12 14 581.00 719 362 288 31 144 158 0.296 1.49 4.46 1743 796 107 213 0.960 0.523 0.322 1.67 5.61 0.48 Deadball
TWISL Old 65 0 0 29 36 14 20 580.67 663 262 239 19 144 146 0.286 1.39 3.70 1742 792 32 170 0.988 0.446 0.285 1.44 4.06 0.29 Deadball
TWISL DOGGS DEADBALLERS ARE ALL DEAD 65 0 0 25 40 13 19 584.00 642 296 259 15 172 180 0.275 1.39 3.99 1752 757 68 153 0.974 0.385 0.288 1.51 4.56 0.23 Deadball
TWISL Deadballers 65 3 0 44 21 22 30 581.00 590 272 210 24 209 198 0.255 1.38 3.25 1743 705 93 144 0.963 0.677 0.282 1.54 4.21 0.37 Deadball
Twisl 1888-1919 Arms 65 0 0 43 22 19 26 576.67 596 284 248 34 168 160 0.258 1.32 3.87 1730 786 80 177 0.969 0.662 0.281 1.46 4.43 0.53 Deadball
TWISL - Deadball Pitchers 65 3 0 32 33 15 23 579.00 743 469 371 43 253 147 0.301 1.72 5.77 1737 793 125 230 0.953 0.492 0.333 1.94 7.29 0.67 Deadball
Talking to Tesla 65 4 1 40 25 21 25 584.00 527 223 186 6 180 209 0.235 1.21 2.87 1752 742 67 154 0.974 0.615 0.253 1.33 3.44 0.09 Deadball
Old: Full of Krapp & Duryea 65 2 2 43 22 26 28 590.00 500 243 211 14 282 233 0.225 1.33 3.22 1770 753 73 195 0.972 0.662 0.245 1.45 3.71 0.21 Deadball
Old Cy 65 0 0 24 41 11 20 575.33 604 354 279 16 306 180 0.264 1.58 4.36 1726 772 93 176 0.964 0.369 0.288 1.74 5.54 0.25 Deadball
Old Cubs 65 2 1 35 30 18 20 572.33 579 313 244 17 331 225 0.257 1.59 3.84 1717 722 90 131 0.964 0.538 0.280 1.75 4.92 0.27 Deadball
Defense Test: Deadball 65 0 0 38 27 14 22 583.33 632 324 274 31 165 126 0.269 1.37 4.23 1750 788 80 166 0.969 0.585 0.289 1.50 5.00 0.48 Deadball
Deadball Pitching & Bad Defense @ Target 65 1 0 19 46 8 13 570.67 815 578 448 86 303 197 0.324 1.96 7.07 1712 748 137 230 0.947 0.292 0.357 2.20 9.12 1.36 Deadball
Young Yu 65 3 0 17 48 7 15 568.33 757 548 486 72 382 340 0.316 2.00 7.70 1705 699 62 166 0.975 0.262 0.324 2.11 8.68 1.14 Modern
Young Wakefield 65 0 0 34 31 19 24 570.00 577 300 268 55 236 411 0.256 1.43 4.23 1710 631 71 128 0.971 0.523 0.275 1.55 4.74 0.87 Modern
TWISL: Modern Fielding Test 65 0 0 31 34 12 19 578.00 737 409 356 71 133 273 0.303 1.51 5.54 1734 695 67 149 0.973 0.477 0.317 1.62 6.37 1.11 Modern
TWISL New 65 1 1 28 37 11 18 580.33 725 334 316 43 118 337 0.302 1.45 4.90 1741 691 31 82 0.987 0.431 0.303 1.51 5.18 0.67 Modern
TWISL Modern-ish 65 0 0 35 30 15 22 571.67 568 283 236 36 173 261 0.252 1.30 3.72 1715 674 70 133 0.972 0.538 0.271 1.42 4.46 0.57 Modern
Twisl 1985-2016 Arms 65 4 1 38 27 14 26 587.67 544 263 216 36 175 292 0.241 1.22 3.31 1763 705 50 126 0.980 0.585 0.252 1.31 4.03 0.55 Modern
TWISL - Modern Pitchers 65 0 0 40 25 14 21 579.33 596 278 232 47 135 283 0.259 1.26 3.60 1738 706 75 164 0.970 0.615 0.279 1.39 4.32 0.73 Modern
New: My Johnson Needs Orel 65 0 0 37 28 21 30 591.00 482 273 236 59 237 371 0.218 1.22 3.59 1773 684 57 151 0.977 0.569 0.233 1.31 4.16 0.90 Modern
Modern Pitching & Bad Defense at Target 65 1 1 15 50 6 15 564.00 866 683 583 77 350 216 0.341 2.16 9.30 1692 719 105 159 0.958 0.231 0.365 2.34 10.90 1.23 Modern
Driving a Tesla 65 0 0 35 30 17 20 583.33 561 266 223 44 182 346 0.247 1.27 3.44 1750 661 55 155 0.978 0.538 0.260 1.37 4.10 0.68 Modern
Doggs Modern Day Hurlers 65 1 1 25 40 12 17 577.67 658 381 350 75 224 349 0.279 1.53 5.45 1733 652 45 111 0.981 0.385 0.289 1.60 5.94 1.17 Modern
Defense Test: Modern 65 2 2 39 26 20 28 585.00 561 240 209 39 125 318 0.246 1.17 3.22 1755 687 52 140 0.979 0.600 0.259 1.26 3.69 0.60 Modern
Deadball Totals 780 15 4 406 374 193 260 6958.00 7610 3980 3257 336 2657 2159 0.258 1.476 4.213 20874 9154 1045 2139 0.966 0.521 0.293 1.63 5.15 0.43 Deadball Total
Modern Totals 780 12 6 374 406 168 255 6936.33 7632 4258 3711 654 2470 3797 0.262 1.456 4.815 20809 8204 740 1664 0.975 0.479 0.287 1.56 5.52 0.85 Modern Total
Difference -3 2 -32 32 -25 -5 -21.67 22 278 454 318 -187 1638 0.004 -0.019 0.602 -65 -950 -305 -475 0.009 -0.041 -0.006 -0.06 0.38 0.41 Modern-Deadball


Overall, it looks like things are starting to balance out. The severe fatigue effects seem to be limited to 4 teams, 2 each deadball and modern. The modern teams are seeing their lead in terms of OAV and WHIP improvement widen, and the HR and RA/9 deficit narrow. The run deficit is still tracking fairly close to the HR deficit. Most importantly, the deadball teams still have the advantage in RA/9 and W%, though both have narrowed week to week. It's still a noticeable gap.
2/24/2021 2:52 PM
My deadball team has hit 61 HRs and my modern team has hit 39. This makes some sense if you think about it - my deadball team only has ONE other deadball team in our division, but the modern team has TWO deadball teams in our division. I don't think that's the whole explanation, but it's interesting to think about.
2/24/2021 3:19 PM
My deadball team also has 10 more passed balls through 65 games (30 vs 20)
2/24/2021 3:20 PM
Oddly enough, my modern team has hit more HR than my deadball teams (63 vs 58).
2/24/2021 6:35 PM
Team G CG SHO W L SV SVO IP H R ER HR BB SO OAV WHIP ERA PO A E DP FPCT W% OAV+E WHIP+E RA/9 HR/9 TEAM TYPE
TWISL: Deadball Fielding Test 91 2 0 48 43 18 21 812.33 990 522 409 60 207 218 0.292 1.47 4.53 2437 1117 154 269 0.958 0.527 0.319 1.66 5.78 0.66 Deadball
TWISL Old 91 0 0 47 44 21 29 813.67 911 366 335 31 193 207 0.282 1.36 3.71 2441 1093 44 240 0.988 0.516 0.281 1.41 4.05 0.34 Deadball
TWISL DOGGS DEADBALLERS ARE ALL DEAD 91 0 0 39 52 22 29 817.67 891 415 360 19 232 262 0.272 1.37 3.96 2453 1053 90 196 0.975 0.429 0.286 1.48 4.57 0.21 Deadball
TWISL Deadballers 91 3 0 59 32 26 35 813.00 873 417 328 33 293 270 0.267 1.43 3.63 2439 1003 126 237 0.965 0.648 0.291 1.59 4.62 0.37 Deadball
Twisl 1888-1919 Arms 91 0 0 60 31 26 36 816.33 805 372 320 42 239 230 0.25 1.28 3.53 2449 1085 105 223 0.971 0.659 0.271 1.41 4.10 0.46 Deadball
TWISL - Deadball Pitchers 91 4 0 41 50 17 29 805.33 1045 727 558 67 397 213 0.302 1.79 6.24 2416 1077 200 297 0.946 0.451 0.340 2.04 8.12 0.75 Deadball
Talking to Tesla 91 4 1 51 40 27 32 810.67 805 367 296 11 253 279 0.252 1.31 3.29 2432 1032 103 219 0.971 0.560 0.272 1.43 4.07 0.12 Deadball
Old: Full of Krapp & Duryea 91 3 2 62 29 33 38 824.33 718 364 309 30 399 331 0.228 1.36 3.37 2473 1040 115 259 0.968 0.681 0.252 1.49 3.97 0.33 Deadball
Old Cy 91 0 0 32 59 13 27 803.67 858 504 394 27 439 255 0.267 1.61 4.41 2411 1063 127 220 0.965 0.352 0.290 1.77 5.64 0.30 Deadball
Old Cubs 91 5 2 53 38 25 30 804.33 826 448 349 32 441 315 0.259 1.58 3.91 2413 1027 135 199 0.962 0.582 0.285 1.74 5.01 0.36 Deadball
Defense Test: Deadball 91 0 0 51 40 18 27 811.00 868 424 348 38 208 169 0.266 1.33 3.86 2433 1088 118 242 0.968 0.560 0.288 1.47 4.71 0.42 Deadball
Deadball Pitching & Bad Defense @ Target 91 1 0 22 69 10 18 793.67 1150 865 695 130 435 283 0.326 2.00 7.88 2381 1018 195 293 0.946 0.242 0.361 2.24 9.81 1.47 Deadball
Young Yu 91 3 0 28 63 12 24 795.67 1002 702 620 104 508 507 0.302 1.90 7.01 2387 956 89 213 0.974 0.308 0.314 2.01 7.94 1.18 Modern
Young Wakefield 91 0 0 49 42 27 34 803.00 811 414 363 72 318 592 0.255 1.41 4.07 2409 876 94 177 0.972 0.538 0.273 1.52 4.64 0.81 Modern
TWISL: Modern Fielding Test 91 0 0 43 48 19 27 807.00 1039 596 522 106 201 378 0.305 1.54 5.82 2421 961 102 191 0.971 0.473 0.320 1.66 6.65 1.18 Modern
TWISL New 91 2 1 40 51 16 24 815.00 988 449 423 54 167 482 0.295 1.42 4.67 2445 969 42 131 0.988 0.440 0.296 1.47 4.96 0.60 Modern
TWISL Modern-ish 91 0 0 56 35 28 37 802.00 774 366 305 46 218 374 0.246 1.24 3.42 2406 964 96 193 0.972 0.615 0.266 1.36 4.11 0.52 Modern
Twisl 1985-2016 Arms 91 4 1 54 37 25 42 816.67 762 366 303 50 251 419 0.242 1.24 3.34 2450 966 78 171 0.978 0.593 0.255 1.34 4.03 0.55 Modern
TWISL - Modern Pitchers 91 0 0 52 39 20 31 808.67 867 424 356 76 205 391 0.267 1.33 3.96 2426 965 101 202 0.971 0.571 0.285 1.45 4.72 0.85 Modern
New: My Johnson Needs Orel 91 0 0 51 40 25 39 827.33 677 373 320 75 314 527 0.217 1.20 3.48 2482 948 82 207 0.977 0.560 0.234 1.30 4.06 0.82 Modern
Modern Pitching & Bad Defense at Target 91 1 1 16 75 7 18 785.00 1258 1039 880 135 531 320 0.351 2.28 10.09 2355 981 155 208 0.956 0.176 0.375 2.48 11.91 1.55 Modern
Driving a Tesla 91 1 1 51 40 28 32 814.67 761 360 303 53 249 463 0.242 1.24 3.35 2444 937 70 208 0.98 0.560 0.254 1.33 3.98 0.59 Modern
Doggs Modern Day Hurlers 91 4 2 35 56 17 25 809.67 897 509 457 100 305 489 0.274 1.48 5.08 2429 923 64 151 0.981 0.385 0.283 1.56 5.66 1.11 Modern
Defense Test: Modern 91 2 2 52 39 24 36 815.33 799 353 298 58 170 453 0.249 1.19 3.29 2446 946 83 187 0.976 0.571 0.265 1.29 3.90 0.64 Modern
Deadball Totals 1092 22 5 565 527 256 351 9726.00 10740 5791 4701 520 3736 3032 0.259 1.488 4.350 29178 12696 1512 2894 0.965 0.517 0.296 1.64 5.36 0.48 Deadball Total
Modern Totals 1092 17 8 527 565 248 369 9700.01 10635 5951 5150 929 3437 5395 0.261 1.451 4.778 29100 11392 1056 2239 0.975 0.483 0.287 1.56 5.52 0.86 Modern Total
Difference -5 3 -38 38 -8 18 -25.99 -105 160 449 409 -299 2363 0.001 -0.038 0.428 -78 -1304 -456 -655 0.009 -0.035 -0.009 -0.08 0.16 0.38 Modern-Deadball
3/5/2021 11:10 AM
Same story as last update, small narrowing of the gap, but deadballers still exceeding the overall value of the modern pitchers on the strength of XBH allowance which has suppressed their runs allowed comparatively. Modern pitchers have continued to narrow the RA and HR gap and take a wider lead on adjusted OAV and WHIP.

I don't think the modern pitchers will fully narrow the gap, but it is interesting to see how close they come and to also see first hand the value of XBH/HR suppression in terms of run allowance.
3/5/2021 11:22 AM
Team G CG SHO W L SV SVO IP H R ER HR BB SO OAV WHIP ERA PO A E DP FPCT W% OAV+E WHIP+E RA/9 HR/9 TEAM TYPE
TWISL: Deadball Fielding Test 115 2 0 61 54 23 26 1,023.00 1252 644 522 79 273 278 0.293 1.49 4.59 3069 1366 179 316 0.961 0.530 0.318 1.67 5.67 0.70 Deadball
TWISL Old 115 0 0 64 51 28 38 1,025.00 1128 456 417 36 251 279 0.279 1.35 3.66 3075 1384 58 315 0.987 0.557 0.278 1.40 4.00 0.32 Deadball
TWISL DOGGS DEADBALLERS ARE ALL DEAD 115 0 0 49 66 27 35 1,029.33 1138 542 466 25 290 330 0.274 1.39 4.07 3088 1337 117 243 0.974 0.426 0.289 1.50 4.74 0.22 Deadball
TWISL Deadballers 115 3 0 66 49 27 39 1,029.67 1103 553 436 50 377 337 0.266 1.44 3.81 3089 1279 166 313 0.963 0.574 0.291 1.60 4.83 0.44 Deadball
Twisl 1888-1919 Arms 115 0 0 71 44 29 40 1,024.00 1044 494 425 54 317 298 0.257 1.33 3.74 3072 1341 136 276 0.970 0.617 0.278 1.46 4.34 0.47 Deadball
TWISL - Deadball Pitchers 115 7 1 58 57 22 36 1,031.00 1281 825 638 77 466 281 0.294 1.69 5.57 3093 1393 227 372 0.952 0.504 0.328 1.91 7.20 0.67 Deadball
Talking to Tesla 115 4 1 63 52 31 38 1,032.00 1031 475 385 18 313 362 0.253 1.30 3.36 3096 1318 131 289 0.971 0.548 0.273 1.43 4.14 0.16 Deadball
Old: Full of Krapp & Duryea 115 5 3 72 43 37 44 1,046.00 909 472 403 37 500 411 0.228 1.35 3.47 3138 1330 146 313 0.968 0.626 0.252 1.49 4.06 0.32 Deadball
Old Cy 115 0 0 42 73 17 33 1,019.00 1112 655 520 33 578 337 0.271 1.66 4.59 3057 1340 162 297 0.964 0.365 0.294 1.82 5.79 0.29 Deadball
Old Cubs 115 7 2 61 54 28 37 1,010.00 1040 591 461 50 573 393 0.258 1.60 4.11 3030 1289 182 245 0.960 0.530 0.287 1.78 5.27 0.45 Deadball
Defense Test: Deadball 115 1 0 66 49 22 35 1,025.00 1127 561 459 49 254 204 0.272 1.35 4.03 3075 1378 150 308 0.967 0.574 0.293 1.49 4.93 0.43 Deadball
Deadball Pitching & Bad Defense @ Target 115 1 0 24 91 10 18 996.67 1513 1170 957 179 560 355 0.336 2.08 8.64 2990 1280 254 372 0.944 0.209 0.371 2.33 10.57 1.62 Deadball
Young Yu 115 3 0 35 80 16 31 1,008.33 1254 859 749 134 618 630 0.299 1.86 6.69 3025 1203 114 248 0.974 0.304 0.311 1.97 7.67 1.20 Modern
Young Wakefield 115 0 0 62 53 34 43 1,015.00 1029 526 460 86 391 746 0.256 1.40 4.08 3045 1117 117 235 0.973 0.539 0.273 1.51 4.66 0.76 Modern
TWISL: Modern Fielding Test 115 0 0 62 53 27 37 1,033.00 1266 708 622 125 274 494 0.294 1.49 5.42 3099 1244 132 251 0.971 0.539 0.311 1.62 6.17 1.09 Modern
TWISL New 115 2 1 55 60 20 33 1,032.00 1221 539 510 65 217 630 0.290 1.39 4.45 3096 1214 50 182 0.989 0.478 0.291 1.44 4.70 0.57 Modern
TWISL Modern-ish 115 0 0 71 44 35 47 1,018.00 956 459 377 59 271 463 0.241 1.21 3.33 3054 1224 124 237 0.972 0.617 0.261 1.33 4.06 0.52 Modern
Twisl 1985-2016 Arms 115 4 1 64 51 32 51 1,029.33 1009 496 413 67 319 539 0.251 1.29 3.61 3088 1203 98 210 0.978 0.557 0.264 1.39 4.34 0.59 Modern
TWISL - Modern Pitchers 115 0 0 67 48 28 43 1,021.67 1087 531 444 101 267 507 0.265 1.33 3.91 3065 1219 134 239 0.970 0.583 0.285 1.46 4.68 0.89 Modern
New: My Johnson Needs Orel 115 0 0 68 47 32 48 1,043.33 862 468 395 87 399 659 0.219 1.21 3.41 3130 1225 109 284 0.976 0.591 0.237 1.31 4.04 0.75 Modern
Modern Pitching & Bad Defense at Target 115 1 1 16 99 7 22 987.33 1623 1377 1158 181 709 410 0.357 2.36 10.56 2962 1226 194 272 0.956 0.139 0.380 2.56 12.55 1.65 Modern
Driving a Tesla 115 1 1 66 49 39 43 1,027.67 952 445 382 62 313 594 0.241 1.23 3.35 3083 1181 89 239 0.980 0.574 0.252 1.32 3.90 0.54 Modern
Doggs Modern Day Hurlers 115 4 2 48 67 25 34 1,022.00 1087 605 544 118 380 638 0.266 1.44 4.79 3066 1132 81 184 0.981 0.417 0.276 1.51 5.33 1.04 Modern
Defense Test: Modern 115 3 2 69 46 32 46 1,028.33 1018 451 369 72 216 567 0.250 1.20 3.23 3085 1199 112 239 0.975 0.600 0.268 1.31 3.95 0.63 Modern
Deadball Totals 1380 30 7 697 683 301 419 12290.67 13678 7438 6089 687 4752 3865 0.261 1.500 4.459 36872 16035 1908 3659 0.965 0.505 0.297 1.65 5.45 0.50 Deadball Total
Modern Totals 1380 18 8 683 697 327 478 12265.99 13364 7464 6423 1157 4374 6877 0.259 1.446 4.713 36798 14387 1354 2820 0.974 0.495 0.286 1.56 5.48 0.85 Modern Total
Difference -12 1 -14 14 26 59 -24.68 -314 26 334 470 -378 3012 -0.001 -0.053 0.254 -74 -1648 -554 -839 0.009 -0.010 -0.011 -0.10 0.03 0.35 Modern-Deadball
3/13/2021 2:06 AM (edited)
The modern pitchers have been slowly closing the gap in RA/9 and have been growing a wider gap on error adjusted OAV & WHIP, but I didn't expect them to fully close the RA/9 gap this quick, if at all. The error adjusted OAV gap now has the modern pitchers ahead .286 to .297, the adjusted WHIP sees them ahead 1.56 to 1.67 and the RA/9 gap is still in the deadball court, but statistically insignificant with a 5.45 to 5.48 lead. The deadball teams still have a lead in wins, but even that gap closed by more than half over the last week. It's looking like the modern players may end up proving more valuable despite the XBH/HR gap...

3/13/2021 2:12 AM
After 115 games, both my teams are 64-54. They’re a lot closer than I thought they’d be (expected my deadball pitching to be a lot worse than it has been)
3/14/2021 12:25 PM
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