Seem sane when up against the new woke left.

Hope none of y'all have daughters that like to play sports!

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2021/feb/25/marjorie-taylor-greene-hangs-two-genders-sign-afte/

Not sure why being factually wrong makes you more "sane".

I've actually done more thinking on the trans sports issue. I actually agree with the right. People who went through puberty as a man probably shouldn't be able to compete with women until they go through a certain about of hormone therapy.

Here's where I disagree with the right: Why not assign hormone blockers BEFORE puberty so trans women never get the biological advantage to begin with? That feels like the win-win situation here.

This feels like a situation where the right is anti-abortion but also anti-birth control and sex ed, which makes me feel that you really aren't looking to solve any of these problems.

Also, let's be real. Before two months ago, women's sports was a joke on the right. If you don't believe me, look up the number of conservatives who will consistently trash the WNBA and women's Olympic sports. But ever since they realized they could use women's sports as a crutch against trans people, suddenly it's a major problem in America. The White Knights are here!

Let's be real. Conservatives don't care about solving problems. They just hate trans people.

the fact that you would use anything Taylor-Greene says as evidence to support your position just convinces me even more that you are an idiot.

Posted by wylie715 on 2/25/2021 6:35:00 PM (view original):
the fact that you would use anything Taylor-Greene says as evidence to support your position just convinces me even more that you are an idiot.

Well, you see, that's kind of my point here. The consensus opinion is that Greene is a crazy right winger. Given that's the case, and if we define a crazy person as someone who makes crazy statements, we must deduce that the statement: "There are two genders: male and female. Trust the science" is also crazy. And the Democratic left certainly think it's crazy, untrue, and essentially hate speech.

Now ask yourself. What if you could go back in time 20 years ago and repeat that statement to the average person on the street and then tell them that in the Lord's year of 2021 that statement is considered controversial and (essentially) hateful? How do you think the average person 20 years ago would've reacted?

They would think: I know that statement is true...it's the most obvious thing in the world. Anybody debating that statement is crazy and by extension: "people must be crazy in the future!"

So what am I trying to prove here? I am not trying to prove that Miss Greene is not crazy. I am trying to show HOW crazy the left has become that even the craziest person on the right makes more sense than your average woke lefty congress person. The woke left will either destroy science and falsify history...or time will prove me correct. Count on that Wylie! And heck, despite your negative assessment towards me, I will say that I know YOU are a reasonable moderate. I think, in your heart of hearts, you know it's pretty crazy that the left is trying to label people transphobic for not wanting transgender women (who were born male!~) to participate in women's sports. You're a reasonable coyote....I'm sure you think it's a litttle ridiculous that we had the de-gender Mr. Potatohead to abide by our new idea of gender norms. This is meant as compliment by the way :).

We are just two reasonable people here. I'm just more farsighted and can see the potential dangers that out of control wokism poses.

Have you read Kafka? You should, he's a hero of mine. He made some pretty interesting statements in the early 20s...as he was nearing his death. He knew dark times were ahead. Sometimes, sadly, I feel the same way about our political future. Our future as a country.

I'm drafting a proposal for a new political system. The thinktank I work for promises to publish it widely if it meets their approval. I'll be in touch. Elon Musk would make a good absolute monarch. But I think we can develop an even better system than that! So LETS!

Yours,
GG

Yep, everything you said could also apply to slavery in the 1840's, interracial marriage in the 1940's, gay rights in the 80's... The average person would probably be against the left, and then it changed. Same with trans people. The right is usually wrong on cultural issues because your arguments suck.

All the same arguments.

That's the thing about anti-trans appeals. So many of them could also apply to arguments against interracial marriage or gay marriage. "You can't change definitions!" "It's tradition" "Your arguments will destroy society!" "Think of the children!"

I don't get how someone saying "there are only two genders" is an argument against trans people, but regardless, it's just not true. Even if you were correct that what people thought 20 years ago is a relevant argument, people can be wrong.

The way trans people are treated by the medical community agrees with me. But whenever I point that out, you immediately argue that you disagree with the science on this issue because the woke left pressured all of the medical institutions to change their perspective and falsify studies (still waiting for some evidence on that one, strikeout).

As for the Potatohead, I'm not sure that this was a key battleground for the left. Seems like a cynical decision by a company in order to trigger backlash from the right and make more money. You're playing right into it.

And even if every argument you made here was true, it has nothing to do with how you vote. Joe Biden doesn't control the woke crowd.

"wokeism" grew under Trump.

Posted by tangplay on 2/25/2021 8:05:00 PM (view original):
Yep, everything you said could also apply to slavery in the 1840's, interracial marriage in the 1940's, gay rights in the 80's... The average person would probably be against the left, and then it changed. Same with trans people. The right is usually wrong on cultural issues because your arguments suck.

All the same arguments.

That's the thing about anti-trans appeals. So many of them could also apply to arguments against interracial marriage or gay marriage. "You can't change definitions!" "It's tradition" "Your arguments will destroy society!" "Think of the children!"

I don't get how someone saying "there are only two genders" is an argument against trans people, but regardless, it's just not true. Even if you were correct that what people thought 20 years ago is a relevant argument, people can be wrong.

The way trans people are treated by the medical community agrees with me. But whenever I point that out, you immediately argue that you disagree with the science on this issue because the woke left pressured all of the medical institutions to change their perspective and falsify studies (still waiting for some evidence on that one, strikeout).

As for the Potatohead, I'm not sure that this was a key battleground for the left. Seems like a cynical decision by a company in order to trigger backlash from the right and make more money. You're playing right into it.

Yeah, you won’t be getting anything from me. You lost me when you celebrated Limbaugh’s death. “His death was a net positive for society.” That showed me that you weren’t the person that I thought you were and you were one of the few that I actually would engage on here. I wish you the best and I hope that you have a good life.

Sooooooo borrrrrrrring

all culture war bullshit, all aggrievement porn 24/7

Get laid, dude. Pay for it if you must.

Limbaugh's death was, in my view, a net positive for society. I never said that I was happy he died or celebrated it.

I would say the same about Hitler. I don't like it when people die. I would send my condolences to people grieving Limbaugh's death (i.e. family who did nothing wrong). But I don't think there's a problem with pointing out that someone who did a lot of ****** up **** dying is a net positive to society.

Ignorance and Intolerance. More "conservative values" on display. I have known a person for over 30 years. She WAS a he and about 15 years ago became a she. We've talked at endless lengths and if ANY of these people like strikeout ever did the same they might see how BRAIN DEAD they are to what it's like to actually make the decision to live as and be trans. They make glorified statements filled with pompous bile about a subject that they have absolutely NO CLUE about. People like Taylor Green ought to be expelled from congress. She is a DISEASE. I also love the defense of the dead ***** limpbawl. It's fine for him to have spewed any of his "brand" of completely hateful bile for years, but when we celebrate the death of the SCUMBAG we're the bad guys. Seriously...for anybody defending the DEAD ******* and complaining about "hate" you really ought to take a long, hard look in a mirror. Some people DESERVE to die horribly as accountability for their actions in life. He was one of them.

So, according to several here, when people like Limbaugh share their ideas, they are doing something hateful and evil, yet when they share their joy for Limbaugh's death, there is nothing wrong with that. I don't know if I should find that sad, or just plain scary. Either way, it's hypocrisy at it's best. They think anyone who disagrees with them should keep their beliefs to themselves, while those who agree with them should shout from every corner and can do no wrong.

Posted by rsp777 on 2/26/2021 6:15:00 AM (view original):
Ignorance and Intolerance. More "conservative values" on display. I have known a person for over 30 years. She WAS a he and about 15 years ago became a she. We've talked at endless lengths and if ANY of these people like strikeout ever did the same they might see how BRAIN DEAD they are to what it's like to actually make the decision to live as and be trans. They make glorified statements filled with pompous bile about a subject that they have absolutely NO CLUE about. People like Taylor Green ought to be expelled from congress. She is a DISEASE. I also love the defense of the dead ***** limpbawl. It's fine for him to have spewed any of his "brand" of completely hateful bile for years, but when we celebrate the death of the SCUMBAG we're the bad guys. Seriously...for anybody defending the DEAD ******* and complaining about "hate" you really ought to take a long, hard look in a mirror. Some people DESERVE to die horribly as accountability for their actions in life. He was one of them.

No, you are not the bad guys when you celebrate Limbaugh's death. You are just sinking to his level, which as you point out, is pretty low. Nobody deserves to die horribly. Well, maybe rapists and serial killers. As far as I know Limbaugh was neither of those things. There are consequences to one's actions, but a horrible death should not be the consequence for being a blubbering fool.