Rule V Leg #72 Draft Thread Topic

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Originally created many moons ago by examinerebb, this league makes any franchise a contender (the Padres won a recent world series), and a better group of owners can't be found on the site. There is much good-natured banter in the draft thread and the league chat, so bring your sense of humor. The rules are simple:

1. Each owner chooses a franchise. Franchise draft order is in inverse order of win percentage from the previous season for non-playoff teams, then inverse order of win percentage of non-World Series playoff teams, with the WS runner-up picking 23rd, and the WS champ choosing last. New owners will be assigned the draft position of any previous owners who are not returning, with the first to sign up receiving the highest slot, and so on. (New last season) Division alignment will be determined randomly after team selection is complete.

2. Each owner chooses five players he/she wishes to protect from that franchise (1971-present) and submits that list via sitemail to me. Those players are the exclusive property of their respective owners.

3. After all lists are submitted, they will be posted and a three round modified Rule V draft will be held, with draft order being inverse order of each franchise's Rule V win percentage through all legs from which we have data (the worst teams pick first). Many thanks to schwarze for compiling this data. Each owner selects one unprotected player from any active franchise but their own (player seasons for franchises that were not chosen are not eligible). That player is also theirs exclusively. No more than two players may be taken from any one franchise in any one round.

4. At the end of the first and second rounds, each owner will choose an additional player they wish to protect. You will end up protecting seven in all, while drafting three. These ten players must appear on your roster. The rest of the roster is filled by players from your franchise during the given time period (1971-present day).

$120 Million Cap
No trades
No WW
No DH
No AAA

No clones (same player, same franchise - if a player played for more than one franchise, he is available once for each franchise).
If a player split time between multiple teams in a season (as listed at WIS) his full season is available once for each team
SLL limited to current series.
Stadium must have been used by your franchise for at least one full season between 1971 and present.
Tiebreaker for draft positions will be run differential from the previous season, worse differential picks first.

For those new to the Rule V fold:

There is much good-natured ribbing during the draft (we try not to be too player-specific, so as not to influence the draft, but sometimes the temptation is too much). Do not take it personally. Pick a draft strategy and stay the course, regardless.

Glossary

He Who Must Not Be Named (HWMNBN) - A former player/manager/dirtbag for the Cincinnati Reds (and later, Philadelphia Phillies and Montreal Expos) who defiled the grand game of baseball. No Rule V team has ever won a title with him, so heed jose's warnings about karma. I would imagine Lady Karma grows weary from teaching the same lesson over and over, as the ruler with which she raps offending knuckles seems to grow with each passing season. The scumbag finally won a couple of championships. Lady Karma has stunned us all with this development

The Single Most Overrated Pitcher of All Time (TSMOPOAT) - Nolan Ryan

The Single Most Overrated Position Player of All Time (TSMOPPOAT) - Cal Ripken, Jr.

(Both of those players designated by Vegas...see below)

Vegas - jose can u c - Our Rule V Prediction King (emeritus)

Alleyviper's Favorite Third Baseman of All Time (AFTBOAT) - Scott Rolen (has picked him in ten drafts)
7/22/2021 10:04 PM
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Rule V Player Draft Order (teams in RED selected in franchise draft)
Rank Franchise Years _Wins_ Losses Wining%
1 Rays 17 1146 1608 0.4161
2 D'backs 31 2336 2687 0.4651
3 Tigers 38 2911 3247 0.4727
4 Pirates 36 2778 3054 0.4763
5 Rockies 24 1856 2033 0.4772
6 White Sox 23 1779 1947 0.4775
7 Rangers 29 2267 2432 0.4824
8 Twins 43 3366 3602 0.4831
9 Brewers 38 3032 3128 0.4922
10 Marlins 31 2476 2548 0.4928
11 Angels 31 2487 2536 0.4951
12 Orioles 39 3133 3186 0.4958
13 Red Sox 53 4277 4310 0.4981
14 Blue Jays 49 3960 3980 0.4987
15 Padres 39 3156 3163 0.4994
16 Mariners 48 3887 3892 0.4997
17 Expos 53 4297 4292 0.5003
18 Phillies 47 3814 3803 0.5007
19 Guardians 51 4176 4087 0.5054
20 Cubs 43 3525 3441 0.5060
21 Reds 44 3624 3505 0.5083
22 Royals 46 3792 3663 0.5087
23 Mets 48 3982 3795 0.5120
24 Giants 47 3909 3708 0.5132
25 Braves 52 4335 4089 0.5146
26 Cardinals 53 4436 4151 0.5166
27 Yankees 49 4128 3810 0.5200
28 Dodgers 52 4409 4017 0.5233
29 A's 52 4462 3964 0.5296
30 Astros 53 4559 4029 0.5309
7/27/2021 11:14 AM (edited)
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Rule V Franchise Draft (timed schedule starts MONDAY 7/26)
  1. fatguyrd 62-100 .383 New York Mets 3*
  2. alice 62-100 .383 Baltimore Orioles 19*
  3. mussopini23 68-94 Oakland Athletics 4*
  4. tridentric 69-93 .426 San Diego Padres 5*
  5. deathdealer 70-92 .432 Arizona Diamondbacks 6*
  6. specsman 72-90 .444 Chicago White Sox 10*
  7. sakensei 73-89 Toronto Blue Jays 14*
  8. sinfonian11 75-87 .463 New York Yankees 2*
  9. bigsteve12 76-86 .469 Chicago Cubs 12*
  10. nordawg 78-84 .481 Milwaukee Brewers 9*
  11. DoctorKz 80-82 .494* Cleveland Guardians 7*
  12. alleyviper 83-79 .512 Montreal Expos/Washington Nationals 20*
  13. newarkwilder 84-78 .519 Los Angeles Angels 13*
  14. captmurphy 85-77 .525 Los Angeles Dodgers 17*
  15. ff09 86-76 .531 Atlanta Braves 22*
  16. pumpkinmcp 87-76 .534 Boston Red Sox 1*
  17. tjefferson 84-78 .519^ Colorado Rockies 8*
  18. Chisock 88-75 .540^ San Francisco Giants 23*
  19. nyyfannova05 90-72 .556^ Philadelphia Phillies 15*
  20. rbow923 91-71 .563^ Detroit Tigers 11
  21. justinlee_24 94-68 .580^ Houston Astros 21*
  22. bob_shabazz 97-65 .599^ Minnesota Twins 24*
  23. buddhagamer 94-68 .580% St. Louis Cardinals 18*
  24. atheistdeals 97-65 .599$ Seattle Mariners 16*
* new owner
^ playoff team
% WS runner-up
$ WS champion

* third round keeper sent

Divisions:
NL East: Red Sox, Yankees, Mets, Athletics
NL Central: Padres, Guardians, Diamondbacks, Rockies
NL West: Brewers, White Sox, Tigers, Cubs
AL East: Angels, Blue Jays, Phillies, Mariners
AL Central: Dodgers, Cardinals, Orioles, Expos/Nats
AL West: Astros, Braves, Giants, Twins

Owner list for sitemailing: fatguyrd; alice; mussopini23; tridentric; deathdealer; specsman; sakensei; sinfonian11; bigsteve12; nordawg; DoctorKz; alleyviper; newarkwilder; captmurphy; ff09; pumpkinmcp; tjefferson; Chisock; nyyfannova05; rbow923; justinlee_24; bob_shabazz; buddhagamer; atheistdeals
8/2/2021 11:09 PM (edited)
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Player Draft Round One (timed schedule begins THURSDAY 7/29)
  1. deathdealer - Arizona Diamondbacks - Fred Lynn - BOS
  2. rbow923 - Detroit Tigers: Fernando Valenzuela - LAD
  3. tjefferson - Colorado Rockies: TSMOPOAT - HOU
  4. specsman - Chicago White Sox: Alan Trammell - DET
  5. bob_shabazz - Minnesota Twins: Freddie Freeman - ATL
  6. nordawg - Milwaukee Brewers: Derek Lowe - BOS (Red Sox off the board)
  7. newarkwilder - Los Angeles Angels: Albert Belle - CLE
  8. alice - Baltimore Orioles: Justin Verlander - HOU (Astros off the board)
  9. pumpkinmcp - Boston Red Sox: Dick Allen - CHW
  10. sakensei - Toronto Blue Jays: Howard Johnson - NYM
  11. tridentric - San Diego Padres: Max Scherzer - DET (Tigers off the board)
  12. atheistdeals - Seattle Mariners: John Olerud - TOR
  13. alleyviper - Montreal Expos/Washington Nationals: Matt Harvey - NYM (Mets off the board)
  14. nyyfannova05 - Philadelphia Phillies: Paul O’Neill - NYY
  15. DoctorKz - Cleveland Guardians: Scott Rolen - PHI
  16. bigsteve12 - Chicago Cubs: Charlie Blackmon - COL
  17. fatguyrd- New York Mets: DJ LeMahieu - NYY (Yankees off the board)
  18. Chisock - San Francisco Giants: Teddy Higuera - MIL
  19. ff09 - Atlanta Braves: Willie McGee - STL
  20. buddhagamer - St. Louis Cardinals: Ellis Burks - COL (Rockies off the board)
  21. sinfonian11 - New York Yankees: Derrek Lee - CHC
  22. captmurphy - Los Angeles Dodgers: Paul Goldschmidt - ARI
  23. mussopini23 - Oakland Athletics: Kirby Puckett - MIN
  24. justinlee_24 - Houston Astros: Jimmy Rollins - PHI (Phillies off the board)
Player Draft Round Two (timed schedule starts MONDAY 8/2)
  1. deathdealer - Arizona Diamondbacks: Craig Biggio - HOU
  2. rbow923 - Detroit Tigers: Kevin Brown - LAD
  3. tjefferson - Colorado Rockies: Randy Jones - SDP
  4. specsman - Chicago White Sox: Hideo Nomo - LAD (Dodgers off the board)
  5. bob_shabazz - Minnesota Twins: Gerrit Cole - HOU (Astros off the board)
  6. nordawg - Milwaukee Brewers: Bernie Williams - NYY
  7. newarkwilder - Los Angeles Angels: Roy Halladay - PHI
  8. alice - Baltimore Orioles: Tim Hudson - OAK
  9. pumpkinmcp - Boston Red Sox: Marcell Ozuna - ATL
  10. sakensei - Toronto Blue Jays: Darren Daulton - PHI (Phillies off the board)
  11. tridentric - San Diego Padres: Eric Young - COL
  12. atheistdeals - Seattle Mariners: AFTBOAT - STL
  13. alleyviper - Montreal Expos/Washington Nationals: Willie Hernandez - DET
  14. nyyfannova05 - Philadelphia Phillies: Jose Reyes - NYM
  15. DoctorKz - Cleveland Guardians: Larry Walker - MON/WSH
  16. bigsteve12 - Chicago Cubs: Jacoby Ellsbury - BOS
  17. fatguyrd- New York Mets: Xander Bogaerts - BOS (Red Sox off the board)
  18. Chisock - San Francisco Giants: Gary Sheffield - SDP (Padres off the board)
  19. ff09 - Atlanta Braves: Darin Erstad - LAA
  20. buddhagamer - St. Louis Cardinals: Zach Plesac - CLE
  21. sinfonian11 - New York Yankees: Kris Medlen - ATL (Braves off the board)
  22. captmurphy - Los Angeles Dodgers: Tim Salmon - LAA (Angels off the board)
  23. mussopini23 - Oakland Athletics: Wade Boggs - NYY (Yankees off the board)
  24. justinlee_24 - Houston Astros: Gary Carter - MON/WSH (Expos/Nats off the board)
Player Draft Round Three (timed schedule begins WEDNESDAY 8/4)
  1. deathdealer - Arizona Diamondbacks: Rafael Betancourt - CLE
  2. rbow923 - Detroit Tigers: Don Wilson - HOU
  3. tjefferson - Colorado Rockies: Jon Matlack - NYM
  4. specsman - Chicago White Sox: Ryan Braun - MIL
  5. bob_shabazz - Minnesota Twins: Manny Machado - BAL
  6. nordawg - Milwaukee Brewers: JD Drew - ATL
  7. newarkwilder - Los Angeles Angels: Yadier Molina - STL
  8. alice - Baltimore Orioles: Dennis Martinez - MON/WSH
  9. pumpkinmcp - Boston Red Sox: Cal Eldred - MIL (Brewers off the board)
  10. sakensei - Toronto Blue Jays: Bob Ojeda - NYM (Mets off the board)
  11. tridentric - San Diego Padres: Joey Devine - OAK
  12. atheistdeals - Seattle Mariners: Jim Edmonds - STL (Cardinals off the board)
  13. alleyviper - Montreal Expos/Washington Nationals: Jim Thome - CLE (Guardians off the board)
  14. nyyfannova05 - Philadelphia Phillies: Vladimir Guerrero - MON/WSH (Expos/Nats off the board)
  15. DoctorKz - Cleveland Guardians: Will Clark - SFG
  16. bigsteve12 - Chicago Cubs: Tony Fernandez - TOR
  17. fatguyrd- New York Mets: Jose Canseco - OAK (Athletics off the board)
  18. Chisock - San Francisco Giants: Reggie Smith - LAD
  19. ff09 - Atlanta Braves: Dave Delucci - ARI
  20. buddhagamer - St. Louis Cardinals: Lenny Dykstra - PHI
  21. sinfonian11 - New York Yankees: Victor Gonzalez - LAD (Dodgers off the board)
  22. captmurphy - Los Angeles Dodgers: Bruce Sutter - CHC
  23. mussopini23 - Oakland Athletics: Dustin Pedroia - BOS
  24. justinlee_24 - Houston Astros: Ketel Marte - ARI (Diamondbacks off the board)
8/5/2021 8:56 AM (edited)
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List of keepers/draft picks

deathdealer - Arizona Diamondbacks: Luis Gonzalez, Danny Haren, Zack Greinke, Randy Johnson, Curt Schilling, Fred Lynn - BOS, Matt Williams, Craig Biggio - HOU, Miguel Montero, Rafael Betancourt - CLE

rbow923 - Detroit Tigers: Justin Verlander, Miguel Cabrera, Magglio Ordonez, Tony Phillips, Curtis Granderson, Fernando Valenzuela - LAD, Carlos Guillen, Kevin Brown - LAD, Doug Fister, Don Wilson - HOU

tjefferson - Colorado Rockies: Todd Helton, Larry Walker, Nolan Arrenado, Troy Tulowitski, DJ LeMahieu, TSMOPOAT - HOU, Ubaldo Jimenez, Randy Jones - SDP, Matt Holliday, Jon Matlack - NYM

specsman - Chicago White Sox: Frank Thomas, Albert Belle, Wilbur Wood, Dallas Keuchel, Chris Sale, Alan Trammell - DET, Magglio Ordonez, Hideo Nomo - LAD, Codi Heuer, Ryan Braun - MIL

bob_shabazz - Minnesota Twins: Johan Santana, Kenta Maeda, Joe Mauer, Rod Carew, Chuck Knoblauch, Freddie Freeman - ATL, Joe Nathan, Gerrit Cole - HOU, Francisco Liriano, Manny Machado - BAL

nordawg - Milwaukee Brewers: Robin Yount, Christian Yelich, Devin Williams, Ben Sheets, Mike Caldwell, Derek Lowe - BOS, Corbin Burnes, Bernie Williams - NYY, Prince Fielder, JD Drew - ATL

newarkwilder - Los Angeles Angels: Mike Trout, Mark Texeira, Vladimir Guerrero, Frank Tanana, Dylan Bundy, Albert Belle - CLE, Garrett Richards, Roy Halladay - PHI, Doug DeCinces, Yadier Molina - STL

alice - Baltimore Orioles: Jim Palmer, Chris Hoiles, TSMOPPOAT, Roberto Alomar, Al Bumbry, Justin Verlander - HOU, Melvin Mora, Tim Hudson - OAK, Ken Singleton, Dennis Martinez - MON/WSH

pumpkinmcp - Boston Red Sox: Pedro Martinez, Chris Sale, Roger Clemens, Wade Boggs, Nomar Garciaparra, Dick Allen - CHW, Mookie Betts, Marcell Ozuna - ATL, Carlton Fisk, Cal Eldred - MIL

sakensei - Toronto Blue Jays: Carlos Delgado, Roberto Alomar, Jose Bautista, Roger Clemens, Mark Eichhorn, Howard Johnson - NYM, Roy Halladay, Darren Daulton - PHI, Dave Stieb, Bob Ojeda - NYM

tridentric - San Diego Padres: Dinelson Lamet, Jake Peavy, Kevin Brown, Tony Gwynn, Ken Caminiti, Max Scherzer - DET, Trevor Hoffman, Eric Young - COL, Fernando Tatis, Jr.,

atheistdeals - Seattle Mariners: Ken Griffey, Jr., Edgar Martinez, Alex Rodriguez, Randy Johnson, Felix Hernandez, John Olerud - TOR, Cliff Lee, AFTBOAT - STL, Bret Boone, Jim Edmonds - STL

alleyviper - Montreal Expos/Washington Nationals: Pedro Martinez, Max Scherzer, Tim Raines, Juan Soto, Bryce Harper, Matt Harvey - NYM, Anthony Rendon, Willie Hernandez - DET, Daniel Murphy, Jim Thome - CLE

nyyfannova05 - Philadelphia Phillies: Mike Schmidt, Ryan Howard, Steve Carlton, Curt Schilling, Aaron Nola, Paul O’Neill - NYY, Chase Utley, Jose Reyes - NYM, Bobby Abreu, Vladimir Guerrero - MONWSH

DoctorKz - Cleveland Guardians: Shane Bieber, Corey Kluber, Gaylord Perry, Omar Vizquel, Roberto Alomar, Scott Rolen - PHI, Victor Martinez, Larry Walker - MON/WSH, Kenny Lofton, Will Clark - SFG

bigsteve12 - Chicago Cubs: Jake Arrieta, Yu Darvish, Greg Maddux, Kyle Hendricks, Sammy Sosa, Charlie Blackmon - COL, Rick Wilkins, Jacoby Ellsbury - BOS, Ryne Sandberg, Tony Fernandez - TOR

fatguyrd - New York Mets: Mike Piazza, Tom Seaver, Jacob DeGrom, Dwight Gooden, Pedro Martinez, DJ LeMahieu - NYY, David Wright, Xander Bogaerts - BOS, John Olerud, Jose Canseco - OAK

Chisock - San Francisco Giants: Barry Bonds, Jeff Kent, Buster Posey, Jason Schmidt, Tim Lincecum, Teddy Higuera - MIL, Kevin Mitchell, Gary Sheffield - SDP, Robb Nen, Reggie Smith - LAD

ff09 - Atlanta Braves: Greg Maddux, John Smoltz, Kevin Millwood, Hank Aaron, Chipper Jones, Willie McGee - STL, Javy Lopez, Darin Erstad - LAA, Gary Sheffield, Dave Delucci - ARI

buddhagamer - St. Louis Cardinals: Ted Simmons, Ozzie Smith, Albert Pujols, Mark McGwire, John Tudor, Ellis Burks - COL, Chris Carpenter, Zach Plesac - CLE, Adam Wainwright, Lenny Dykstra - PHI

sinfonian11 - New York Yankees: Ron Guidry, Catfish Hunter, Derek Jeter, Alex Rodriguez, Dave Righetti, Derrek Lee - CHC, Rickey Henderson, Kris Medlen - ATL, Bobby Murcer, Victor Gonzalez - LAD

captmurphy - Los Angeles Dodgers: Mike Piazza, Orel Hershiser, Don Sutton, Clayton Kerahaw, Zack Greinke, Paul Goldschmidt - ARI, Tony Gonsolin, Tim Salmon - LAA, Corey Seager,

mussopini23 - Oakland Athletics: Catfish Hunter, Vida Blue, Mike Norris, Rickey Henderson, Jason Giambi, Kirby Puckett - MIN, Marcus Semien, Wade Boggs - NYY, Liam Hendriks, Dustin Pedroia - BOS

justinlee_24 - Houston Astros: Mike Scott, Roger Clemens, Jeff Bagwell, Lance Berkman, Alex Bregman, Jimmy Rollins - PHI, JR Richard, Gary Carter - MON/WSH, Jose Altuve, Ketel Marte - ARI
8/4/2021 8:05 PM (edited)
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Mets go #1
7/22/2021 11:08 PM
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Baltimore goes # 2
7/23/2021 8:56 AM
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Thought I'd check and I see we are waiting on Pini. I'll check back in later this afternoon
7/23/2021 11:55 AM
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When do you not wait on Pini?
7/23/2021 1:32 PM
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I'm here
7/23/2021 1:41 PM
mussopini23
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I'll go with the A's - haven't picked them in a LONG time - will Sitemail
7/23/2021 1:43 PM
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Trying one of the few teams I haven't finished last with

San Diego Padres
7/23/2021 2:45 PM
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Keepers are sent. Make sure to send yours in when you pick. it speeds things up for all.
7/23/2021 2:51 PM
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A's keepers are in!
7/23/2021 2:59 PM
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thx pini
7/23/2021 3:08 PM
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