Posted by dahsdebater on 10/11/2021 2:50:00 PM (view original):
Posted by laramiebob on 10/10/2021 9:17:00 AM (view original):
Here's another word for you. CHOICE!
Her body, HER choice!
FREEDOM!
I'm bored to tears with this argument. It's absolute nonsense. There is no scientific argument, and only a very weak legal argument, that a fetus is part of the mother's body.
In cases where the mother's wellbeing is in significant danger from carrying out a pregnancy, the vast majority of Americans support legal abortion. If that isn't the case, the mother's body is far less significantly affected by the decision than the fetus' body.
I'm pro-choice, but I'm sick of this stupid shibboleth.
I agree that "my body, my choice" is a bad slogan, but for a slightly different reason. If you're anti abortion, you likely believe that abortion is murder, and if something is murder, there isn't a whole lot that wouldn't be justified to prevent it. It's not really your choice if you're murdering someone or not.
The counter to your argument would be to point out that if a fetus is removed from someone, the fetus dies but the person survives.
A major pet peeve of mine is when people try to use "science" to answer philosophical questions. For example, the question of when someone gains personhood is philosophical, not scientific. You can use science to inform your answer, but it is a philosophical question. Another example is trans people - "science" doesn't tell us what a "man" or "woman" is - that, again, is philosophical.