Savage VII Rosters/Commentary Topic

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Rosters

1. goetz93 - LeBron James, Bobby Jones, Draymond Green, Luka Doncic, Andrew Bogut, Jayson Tatum, Victor Oladipo, Paul Silas, Anderson Varejao, Ervin Johnson, Julius Randle, Michael Smith

2. dh555 - Wilt Chamberlain, Paul George, Alonzo Mourning, Serge Ibaka, Charlie Ward, Jose Calderon, Brandan Wright, Clarence Weatherspoon, Gordon Hayward, Shai Gilgeous-Alexander, Marcin Gortat, Kirk Hinrich

3. albiband0 - Steph Curry, Tyson Chandler, Jerry West, Joakim Noah, Enes Kanter, Charles Oakley, Cedric Maxwell, Mike Miller, John Havlicek, Kyle O'Quinn, Adrian Dantley, Blake Griffin

4. pharrop - Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, Shawn Kemp, Donyell Marshall, Kobe Bryant, Kemba Walker, Kermit Washington, Kyle Anderson, Arvydas Sabonis, Josh Smith, Ron Harper, Marquese Chriss, Nick Anderson

5. seapilots - Giannis Antetokounmpo, Kevin McHale, Manu Ginobili, Kyle Lowry, Bob McAdoo, Domantas Sabonis, Kevin Johnson, Deandre Ayton, Paul Westphal, Jusuf Nurkic, Gheorghe Muresan, Bailey Howell

6. dontburnearl - Michael Jordan, Shawn Marion, Robert Parish, Jerry Lucas, Andrew Bynum, Bradley Beal, Chris Boucher, Delon Wright, Nicolas Batum, Lamar Odom, Cole Aldrich, Cole Aldrich, Delonte West

7. mptrey - Shaquille O'Neal, Klay Thompson, Marcus Camby, Montrezl Harrell, Terry Porter, Chris Andersen, Khris Middleton, Paul Pressey, DeMarcus Cousins, Ryan Anderson, Darren Collison, Greg Monroe

8. gerryred - Dwight Howard, Dikembe Mutombo, Jonas Valanciunas, Mark Price, Derek Harper, Alvin Robertson, Pascal Siakam, JaMychal Green, Marvin Williams, Connie Hawkins, J.R. Smith, Jamaal Tinsley

9. benhoidal - Chris Paul, Hassan Whiteside, Joel Embiid, Ray Allen, Jarrett Allen, Richaun Holmes, John Henson, Samuel Dalembert, Larry Sanders, Tobias Harris, Andris Biedrins, Jameer Nelson

10. jpevans31 - David Robinson, Jason Kidd, Andrei Kirilenko, Gerald Wallace, Al Horford, Joe Ingles, Wes Unseld, Reggie Miller, T.J. McConnell, Larry Smith, Swen Nater, Danny Granger

11. ncih - Charles Barkley, Buck Williams, Chauncey Billups, Clyde Drexler, Emeka Okafor, Paul Pierce, Eddie Jones, Mel Daniels, Goran Dragic, Walt Bellamy, Marc Gasol, Jason Richardson

12. jcred5 - Karl Malone, Gary Payton, Bill Walton, Bam Adebayo, Kenneth Faried, Otto Porter, Bob Lanier, Jamario Moon, Amir Johnson, Carmelo Anthony, Miles Bridges, Johnny Moore

13. 24kpyrite - James Harden, Bill Russell, Clint Capela, Sidney Moncrief, Christian Wood, Michael Porter, Dan Roundfield, Antonio McDyess, Joel Przybilla, Devin Booker, Jeff Teague, Brevin Knight

14. chewy3344 - Rudy Gobert, Scottie Pippen, Jrue Holiday, Nikola Vucevic, Paul Millsap, Willis Reed, Robert Covington, James Johnson, Mason Plumlee, Tony Parker, Micheal Ray Richardson, Eric Moreland

15. 20ks - Larry Bird, Andre Drummond, Elton Brand, Rajon Rondo, Bo Outlaw, Bill Bridges, Mike Conley, Grant Hill, Yao Ming, Michael Cooper, George Hill, Elgin Baylor

16. amerk1180 - John Stockton, Nikola Jokic, Patrick Ewing, Brent Barry, Marques Johnson, Chris Webber, Nate McMillan, Tom Boerwinkle, Jaylen Brown, Bobby Portis, Ron Artest, Quinn Buckner

17. edsortails - Anthony Davis, Dwyane Wade, Horace Grant, Pau Gasol, Eric Bledsoe, Tracy McGrady, Mitchell Robinson, Nerlens Noel, Mark Jackson, Fat Lever, Patrick Beverley, Kiki Vandeweghe

18. mikee1 - Kevin Durant, Ben Wallace, Ben Simmons, Amare Stoudemire, Deron Williams, Dale Davis, Dirk Nowitzki, A.C. Green, George Gervin, Hot Rod Williams, Fred VanVleet, Charlie Edge

19. midge - Kevin Garnett, Karl-Anthony Towns, Walt Frazier, Danny Green, Dave Cowens, Kyle Korver, Chris Mullin, Jon Barry, Ivica Zubac, Jeff Hornacek, Thaddeus Young, Cameron Payne

20. ncmusician_7 - DeAndre Jordan, Dennis Rodman, Kyrie Irving, Mo Cheeks, John Collins, Russell Westbrook, Zion Williamson, Jeff Ruland, Oliver Miller, Don Buse, James Worthy, Doug Christie

21. jhsukow - Artis Gilmore, Magic Johnson, Larry Nance, Carlos Boozer, Anfernee Hardaway, Clifford Ray, Zach LaVine, Terry Tyler, Buddy Hield, Robert Williams, Troy Murphy, Gus Johnson

22. raggedclaws - Tim Duncan, Julius Erving, Steve Nash, Tree Rollins, Mookie Blaylock, Andre Iguodala, Kevin Love, David West, Brandon Clarke, Kevon Looney, Jarred Vanderbilt, Boban Marjanovic

23. jethroeg - Moses Malone, Oscar Robertson, Joe Dumars, Rodney McCray, Anthony Mason, Alex English, Vince Carter, Jason Terry, Raef LaFrentz, Rasheed Wallace, Walter Davis, Al Jefferson

24. robusk - Kawhi Leonard, Hakeem Olajuwon, Damian Lillard, Jimmy Butler, Derrick Favors, JaVale McGee, Ed Davis, Terrell Brandon, Larry Nance Jr., Dwight Powell, David Lee, D'Angelo Russell
3/7/2022 2:59 PM (edited)
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1/26/2022 5:37 PM
I havent worked it out yet but I wanted to do something different with the draft order for season 7

i feel like some owners have gotten either terrible(20ks) or awesome(gerry) luck when it comes to the draft order....id like to break the random drawing into either 2(1-12 and 13-24) or 3 groups(1-8, 9-16, and 17-24)...based on adp, you will be put into one of the groups and assigned a random slot from that group

thoughts?
1/26/2022 5:44 PM
for example...

20ks has drafted 18, 21, 6, 15, 18, 18 for an adp of 16

gerry has drafted 9, 2, 1, 9, 13, 6 for an adp of 6.7


20ks adp would most likely put him in the 1-12 group while gerrys adp would probably put him in the 13-24 group
1/26/2022 5:52 PM
Posted by dh555 on 1/26/2022 5:52:00 PM (view original):
for example...

20ks has drafted 18, 21, 6, 15, 18, 18 for an adp of 16

gerry has drafted 9, 2, 1, 9, 13, 6 for an adp of 6.7


20ks adp would most likely put him in the 1-12 group while gerrys adp would probably put him in the 13-24 group
I don't think I would add that wrinkle. This is the average points by draft position... I don't think top half or bottom half impacts the draft too much, so would be an unnecessary complication in my opinion. It is really just who drafts there.
Row Labels Avg Wins Sum of Titles Avg Points
23 45 4 303
12 44 2 280
1 46 2 278
24 44 1 269
14 42 3 264
4 43 2 260
20 41 3 257
10 42 1 256
6 43 0 255
15 42 1 248
3 41 1 246
7 42 0 243
5 41 1 242
22 41 0 237
19 39 3 237
21 39 3 237
11 41 0 236
2 41 0 233
13 41 1 233
9 39 1 228
18 40 1 223
17 36 0 194
16 36 0 193
8 36 0 193
1/26/2022 6:24 PM
My adp is 21.25, but I like the total randomness that you could be anywhere. I always thought choosing closer to 1 or closer to 24 was somewhat odd.
1/26/2022 6:30 PM
The last two winners were first pick (who narrowly beat the 24th pick) and 23rd pick. Also, if you don’t like where you are you are allowed to trade your draft position. That being said, I will play no matter what you decide to do.
1/26/2022 6:34 PM
Also, this is what I am leaning towards for "evals" this Savage.

Each Sunday night during the draft, once post draft, once at the halfway mark and once right before the playoffs (so probably 5 in total), I will host an online happy hour / video chat open to the league. I will probably "interview" 1-2 coaches at the beginning, riff on what our observations are, then open it up to public questions, gripes, comments.

I go to bed early and moved to the east coast this year, so probably like 8-10 PM ET is what I am planning.
1/26/2022 6:38 PM
Posted by Midge on 1/26/2022 6:34:00 PM (view original):
The last two winners were first pick (who narrowly beat the 24th pick) and 23rd pick. Also, if you don’t like where you are you are allowed to trade your draft position. That being said, I will play no matter what you decide to do.
Winners have been 23, 4, 15, 12, 20 and 1. Runner ups have been 19, 14, 12, 3, 24, 23.
1/26/2022 6:42 PM
what about what we do in the ODL? Owners share preference in terms of closer to 1 or 24 and the tie break (I believe) is last seasons performance. I agree position doesn't matter in terms of performance and I think you could maybe argue picking towards the end of the 1st round is an advantage, with 2 picks in the top 30ish and a 3rd pick in the early 30's. As someone who's picked in the back half of the draft 5 of 6 times, the variety would be interesting to me.
1/26/2022 7:56 PM
BTW at least twice I traded up for higher draft position. The first Savage I drew #23, Ash traded his #9 with me...
1/27/2022 3:53 AM
absolutely agree the champ could come from any draft spot...this was more about mixing it up for unlucky owners getting stuck in the same spots almost every year...probably overthinking it...not to mention making more work for myself
1/27/2022 6:46 PM
fuuuuuuccckkkk yeeeeeeaaaaa...got some luck this time..#2!

really looking forward to the challenge of building around who i think im getting
2/4/2022 7:27 PM
Posted by dh555 on 2/4/2022 7:27:00 PM (view original):
fuuuuuuccckkkk yeeeeeeaaaaa...got some luck this time..#2!

really looking forward to the challenge of building around who i think im getting
I cannot for the life of me understand how Wilt has not done better in this league.
2/5/2022 10:59 AM
Poor Ed, he thinks he's spot on, but Rob was just the broker of the deal and no one thinks Rob is a good guy
2/5/2022 12:04 PM
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