*Sheriff Benis

Posted by digitalv on 12/8/2022 9:05:00 PM (view original):

Posted by hughesjr on 12/8/2022 2:37:00 PM (view original):

Posted by digitalv on 12/8/2022 1:12:00 PM (view original):

Posted by hughesjr on 12/8/2022 12:02:00 PM (view original):
I agree that we don't want that mechanism to be used to unlock players for no AP. Just that it was in the game and the mechanism seems to be intentional even though the end result was not. I am a software engineer and have been since the early 80's. I just do not see any way that result could be accidental.

I have absolutely no problem with the patch to change the behavior and I even agree with it 100%.

I don't think it is collusion to discuss how recruiting works or how game planning works in a group (like your conference, or on the forums or on discord). I don't think it is collusion to explain as a mentor how to recruit and maybe walk them through how you would figure who you would take for their team in a one on one communication. It would be collusion to plan with other conference mates which recruits you all should take and split them up, etc.

So, if the conference described that bad mechanism, I don't think that is collusion. As in, did you know you get credit for removing a red shirt.

I have told people in my conference the mechanism I use to gameplan to decide what + or - to play on defense and when I would use 3-2 or 2-3 in a zone, etc. (when asked). I don't think that it is collusion to explain how you think game calculations are done, etc.

I have a recruiting sheet .. it uses colors and letters that you see when you scout and this table to figure out Max attributes:

A+	88
A	82
A-	76
B+	71
B	66
B-	60
C+	55
C	50
C-	44
D+	39
D	34
D-	28
F+	23
F	18
F-	10

for potential it uses:

Very High	High	Average	Low	Very Low
32	24	14	5	2

So if you had a 'very high', 'B-' at level 3 .. the spreadsheet would show 32+60=92 as that predicted score.

I don't think that is collusion, it is just math.

Both cubcub and I have sheets that help you look at your team and compare stats to your opponent. I don't consider those collusion, just a different way to look at data.

how do you figure VH from level 3?

Bad example .. they only have 3 colors at level 3 , high and +24 instead. :)

Ok, that makes more sense lol. Was gunna say if you can see potentials from level 3 I wanna know what programs you’ve got lol

Something to add here, in case people are scratching their heads about this. Those of us (maybe just me) that strategic stop scouting at L3 on players until recruiting actually starts…… there is no way to know if a ‘L3 Blue’ category is actually blue or green. But the way I look at things are always the Min-Max. So at minimum a L3 blue category could get you roughly 20 points growth if in fact it turned out to be a blue rating at L4. But at the time of only knowing L3 I just decided If 20 points on top of the B- rating or whatever is acceptable. If so, I pursue. If not, I come back later or just pass all together.

if a rating ends up being green, then it’s all just added greatness. Of course there are times when a green 10 could turn into 100. And if it’s a player that i would need that 100 from to be interested in signing him, I’ll just go ahead to L4.

every recruiting situation is different

now back to the thread topic, sorry

as another season after the end of the "exploit" approaches an end, St Joe exits in the Elite 8. We lacked depth, but had three "exploit" starters with DEF of 100

Cox set a new StJoe scoring record at 2465. Puts him at 6^th all time in Smith. Grove shattere dschool Block record w 213. My big success last season was holding back their ratings progress so they came back for SR season. Shepard (the last exploit guy) is at 14 on the draft board, so little hope he stays. StJoe wont start 3 guys w 100 DEF again.

as another season after the end of the "exploit" approaches an end, St Joe exits in the Elite 8. We lacked depth, but had three "exploit" starters with DEF of 100. Cox set a new StJoe scoring record at 2465. Puts him at 6 all time in Smith. Grove shattered school Block record w 213. My big success last season was holding back their ratings progress so they came back for SR season. Shepard (the last pure exploit guy) is at 14 on the draft board, so little hope he stays. StJoe wont start 3 guys w 100 DEF again.

Yr.	Pos.	A	SPD	REB	DE	BLK	LP	PE	BH	P	WE	ST	DU	FT	TOT
Fr.	PG	94	93	36	86	29	57	67	80	92	72	78	57	C	841
Fr.	PG	36	79	24	55	13	29	57	67	51	53	73	56	C+	593
Sr.	SG	100	97	45	100	67	83	79	68	66	91	92	83	B+	971
So.	SG	88	77	42	90	21	55	68	80	62	24	64	42	C+	713
Sr.	SF	93	77	63	100	33	92	91	72	82	83	98	56	B+	940
So.	SF	86	68	49	88	57	48	86	67	67	63	73	76	C	828
Fr.	SF	57	66	26	47	20	26	43	73	59	46	68	52	B	583
Jr.	PF	94	63	86	94	92	88	62	71	71	63	84	73	C-	941
Sr.	C	97	55	100	100	100	55	65	44	56	79	89	88	C+	928
Fr.	C	79	21	83	80	85	54	1	32	41	59	74	63	B-	672
Fr.	C	60	17	76	68	64	42	10	16	35	68	66	26	C+	548
Fr.	PF	24	49	47	31	51	53	23	37	43	55	65	62	B-	540
-	-	76	64	56	78	53	57	54	59	60	63	77	61	C+	758

I probably should have done better with these stars. Lack of depth really hurt - and we lost in the elite 8 after our center - 100 ATH, 100 DEF, 100 REB - got in foul trouble.

Not used to running a roster like this - no one should be