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1. rubnsly - LeBron James, Bobby Jones, Bill Walton, Nikola Vucevic, Brandon Clarke, Jerry West, Steven Adams, Terry Tyler, James Worthy, Brad Daugherty, Cedric Ceballos, J.R. Smith

2. ysw128 - Wilt Chamberlain, Alonzo Mourning, John Collins, Andre Iguodala, Mark Price, Derek Harper, Kermit Washington, Josh Hart, Tomas Satoransky, DeMarcus Cousins, Tyus Jones, Cole Aldrich

3. gerryred - Steph Curry, Bam Adebayo, Serge Ibaka, Sidney Moncrief, Robert Covington, Emeka Okafor, Marcin Gortat, Jose Calderon, Chris Webber, Grant Hill, Marc Gasol, Roy Tarpley

4. steelers821 - Giannis Antetokounmpo, Jimmy Butler, Mitchell Robinson, Draymond Green, Dirk Nowitzki, Otto Porter, Alvin Robertson, Alex English, Samuel Dalembert, Walt Bellamy, Derrick White, Bruce Brown

5. dh555 - Michael Jordan, Larry Nance, Dikembe Mutombo, Chauncey, Billups, Zach LaVine, Mason Plumlee, Dale Davis, Evan Mobley, Andris Biedrins, Larry Sanders, JaMychal Green, Brandon Roy

6. jethroeg - Chris Paul, Moses Malone, Kobe Bryant, Charles Oakley, Bobby Portis, Darius Miles, George Gervin, Terrell Brandon, Caldwell Jones, Vince Carter, Jermaine O'Neal, Reggie Lewis

7. pbandj - Nikola Jokic, Andre Drummond, Elton Brand, Danny Green, Bob McAdoo, Kevon Looney, Rajon Rondo, Desmond Bane, Terry Porter, Patrick Beverley, Tom Boerwinkle, Xavier Tillman

8. jcred5 - Dwight Howard, John Stockton, Jonas Valanciunas, Jayson Tatum, Chris Andersen, Daniel Gafford, Deandre Ayton, Khris Middleton, Jamario Moon, Theo Ratliff, Baron Davis, Tyrus Thomas

9. ty84moss - Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, Karl-Anthony Towns, Andrei Kirilenko, Kyle Lowry, Kenneth Faried, Bo Outlaw, Carlos Boozer, CJ McCollum, Michael Cooper, De'Anthony Melton, Ron Harper, Pervis Ellison

10. 24kpyrite - David Robinson, Gary Payton, Marcus Camby, Patrick Ewing, Ray Allen, Chris Mullin, Pascal Siakam, Tobias Harris, Blake Griffin, Mo Cheeks, Bill Bridges, Charlie Ward

11. midge - Rudy Gobert, Kyrie Irving, Walt Frazier, Jerry Lucas, Michael Porter, Ivica Zubac, Kemba Walker, Rodney McCray, John Havlicek, Bob Pettit, Bailey Howell, Marvin Williams

12. ashamael - Shaquille O'Neal, Jrue Holiday, Christian Wood, Jarrett Allen, Joakim Noah, Mikal Bridges, Paul Pierce, De'Aaron Fox, A.C. Green, Josh Smith, Joel Przybilla, Clarence Weatherspoon

13. 20ks - Kevin Durant, Tyson Chandler, Klay Thompson, Donyell Marshall, Brent Barry, Dave Cowens, Tracy McGrady, Kyle Korver, Reggie Miller, Brook Lopez, Jameer Nelson, Troy Murphy

14. raggedclaws - Anthony Davis, Ben Wallace, Manu Ginobili, Montrezl Harrell, Mike Conley, JaVale McGee, Fat Lever, Kristaps Porzingis, Hot Rod Williams, Cedric Maxwell, Nikola Mirotic, Terry Rozier

15. uptowngbv - Karl Malone, Luka Doncic, Buck Williams, Shai Gilgeous-Alexander, Marques Johnson, Donovan Mitchell, Bradley Beal, Antonio McDyess, Yao Ming, Anthony Mason, Daniel Theis, Dan Gadzuric

16. dbkc - James Harden, Artis Gilmore, Horace Grant, Pau Gasol, Kyle Anderson, Deron Williams, Nicolas Batum, Walker Kessler, Dan Roundfield, Onyeka Okongwu, Paul Pressey, Chris Bosh

17. benhoidal - Kawhi Leonard, Hassan Whiteside, Oscar Robertson, Derrick Favors, Chris Boucher, Russell Westbrook, Jakob Poeltl, Tree Rollins, Dwight Powell, Myles Turner, Drew Eubanks, Lauri Markkanen

18. tarheel1991 - DeAndre Jordan, Damian Lillard, Ben Simmons, Robert Parish, Al Horford, Andrew Bogut, Dejounte Murray, Aaron Gordon, Jusuf Nurkic, D'Angelo Russell, Mel Daniels, Tyreke Evans

19. berkelon - Hakeem Olajuwon, Clint Capela, Paul George, Tyrese Haliburton, Domantas Sabonis, John Henson, Larry Nance Jr., Eddie Jones, Kevin Johnson, Marcus Smart, Kyle O'Quinn, Brandon Ingram

20. robusk - Kevin Garnett, Kevin McHale, Scottie Pippen, Clyde Drexler, Robert Williams, Delon Wright, Andrew Bynum, Amir Johnson, Gary Payton II, David Lee, Jeff Hornacek, Rasheed Wallace

21. pexetera - Charles Barkley, Dennis Rodman, Shawn Kemp, Steve Nash, Eric Bledsoe, Enes Kanter, Brandan Wright, Arvydas Sabonis, Thaddeus Young, George Hill, Boban Marjanovic, Tony Allen

22. edsortails - Tim Duncan, Dwyane Wade, Shawn Marion, Gerald Wallace, Anfernee Hardaway, Mookie Blaylock, Bob Lanier, Zion Williamson, Nerlens Noel, Anderson Varejao, Joe Ingles, Lonzo Ball

23. chewy3344 - Larry Bird, Magic Johnson, Bill Russell, Richaun Holmes, Amare Stoudemire, Nic Claxton, Jaylen Brown, Al Jefferson, Jaren Jackson Jr., LaMelo Ball, Wes Unseld, Darius Garland

24. jhsukow - Joel Embiid, Julius Erving, Jason Kidd, Kevin Love, Willis Reed, Paul Millsap, Ed Davis, Victor Oladipo, Jarred Vanderbilt, Nate McMillan, Clifford Ray, Carmelo Anthony

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I feel ok with drafting at 22, but I absolutely hate that I am surrounded by ashamael, chewy, and jcred. I feel like my lunch money is not my own for the rest of the school year.

Robusk I know you don’t like to be to revealing but do you think Chris Paul is really worth a pick this early? Or you just wanted to try something new? Adp is around 10-11.

Posted by steelers821 on 11/12/2023 3:30:00 PM (view original):
Robusk I know you don’t like to be to revealing but do you think Chris Paul is really worth a pick this early? Or you just wanted to try something new? Adp is around 10-11.

I have him 7th on my board but the person in 6th is someone I have had pretty recently and didn’t want to take again for that reason. But I wouldn’t have an argument with someone taking him as high as 4th to be honest. I think there is a clear top three and then a big drop, and my top three is not the same as consensus. He is in my third tier, tier one is one person, tier two is two people, tier three is five people.

After looking through everyone at 4 I definitely think Giannis belongs a tier above the rest. I could be wrong but I assume that’s your third best. I didn’t even look at cp3 but I can see why you have him in the same tier as a lot of the big men coming up.

Posted by steelers821 on 11/12/2023 3:51:00 PM (view original):
After looking through everyone at 4 I definitely think Giannis belongs a tier above the rest. I could be wrong but I assume that’s your third best. I didn’t even look at cp3 but I can see why you have him in the same tier as a lot of the big men coming up.

You assume Giannis isn’t number two

Posted by robusk on 11/12/2023 4:06:00 PM (view original):

Posted by steelers821 on 11/12/2023 3:51:00 PM (view original):
After looking through everyone at 4 I definitely think Giannis belongs a tier above the rest. I could be wrong but I assume that’s your third best. I didn’t even look at cp3 but I can see why you have him in the same tier as a lot of the big men coming up.

You assume Giannis isn’t number two

I wish he had a 30min season or played sf all of his seasons. I’m excited though to build around a guy I’ll have to move around. I’ll have to actually get creative.

Posted by steelers821 on 11/12/2023 4:18:00 PM (view original):

Posted by robusk on 11/12/2023 4:06:00 PM (view original):

Posted by steelers821 on 11/12/2023 3:51:00 PM (view original):
After looking through everyone at 4 I definitely think Giannis belongs a tier above the rest. I could be wrong but I assume that’s your third best. I didn’t even look at cp3 but I can see why you have him in the same tier as a lot of the big men coming up.

You assume Giannis isn’t number two

I wish he had a 30min season or played sf all of his seasons. I’m excited though to build around a guy I’ll have to move around. I’ll have to actually get creative.

That crazy Giannis team I won’t with a couple seasons back is probably the squad I’ve most enjoyed managing out of all of mine so far.

curious to see the 5 cp3 seasons you choose robusk...i second guessed myself constantly when i had him

is wilt in your 3rd tier?

Posted by dh555 on 11/12/2023 5:25:00 PM (view original):
curious to see the 5 cp3 seasons you choose robusk...i second guessed myself constantly when i had him

is wilt in your 3rd tier?

Yeah. I’m lower on Wilt and Steph than probably everyone.

I was hoping to get a certain guy at 15 and pair him with a certain guy in round 2 but considered trying to trade up when I saw Shaq slipping. When Pex posted, I had to just go for it. I don't like his positional inflexibility, but at #12, I'll deal with it.

Posted by robusk on 11/12/2023 6:22:00 PM (view original):

Posted by dh555 on 11/12/2023 5:25:00 PM (view original):
curious to see the 5 cp3 seasons you choose robusk...i second guessed myself constantly when i had him

is wilt in your 3rd tier?

Yeah. I’m lower on Wilt and Steph than probably everyone.

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Those are the obvious ones.

1617 is really low minutes but I will probably go with it because it is probably the best quality.

After that I think probably 1213?

Rob said in regards to CP3:

He is in my third tier, tier one is one person, tier two is two people, tier three is five people.

I'm the same with Lebron. He's so far ahead of anybody else it's not even funny. As for tiers after that, that's difficult to think about. I'd say I have 13 people who are top 10 worthy in my mind, so I'll start with a 1-4-8 spread.

1 is Bron. No argument.

2 is Wilt, Curry, Giannis, MJ (not necessarily in that order). Wilt's minutes are balanced in my mind with Giannis' per-minute greatness. Steph's 3s are unparalleled and are a great equalizer. MJ gives you such a huge back court advantage in so many areas.

3 is CP3, Kareem, Shaq, Dwight, Admiral, Jokic, and two undrafted at this moment.

Keep in mind that I'm not Rob, and that I haven't won four of these and been top 5 virtually every one of them since the first few. He understands how to make lower minute guys shine. I think I would botch Giannis because of that. Otherwise, he'd easily be my #2 overall player.