I don't think that is cheating because if you know the coaches and want to save money staying away from battles is a good thing. It seems like tianyi likes to put out people's dirty laundry when he really doesn't have a point to make.

Posted by iwanturmind2 on 4/6/2012 7:22:00 PM (view original):
I don't think that is cheating because if you know the coaches and want to save money staying away from battles is a good thing. It seems like tianyi likes to put out people's dirty laundry when he really doesn't have a point to make.

Lol. When did collusion ever become ok in WIS?!?

And if you can't see the irony of a coach who cheats to gain unfair recruiting advantage criticizing my efforts (within game rules and done alot of coaches) to improve my odds of NT birth, then we just have to leave it at that. Apparently cheating to make the NT is ok, but doing so within game rules is frowned upon. Good to know.

I didn't and still don't believe it's collusion to simply ask. At no point did I say who I wanted. At no point did I offer an exchange of any sort. What I did was no different than two college coaches watching an aau game asking each other what they thought and who they liked. On top of that no one even responded except Texas who said he thought it was a nono. D has a great rep he has earned. So i decided to listen to him and no ask anymore. But despite that I dont think simply asking is collusion or breaking the rules. If you think so it's your right. Well call it my loss.

And I never said what you do isn't ok. I simply meant it seems to take some fun out of the game. But it's your right to do whatever you think will get you ahead.

Posted by trobone on 4/6/2012 7:57:00 PM (view original):
I didn't and still don't believe it's collusion to simply ask. At no point did I say who I wanted. At no point did I offer an exchange of any sort. What I did was no different than two college coaches watching an aau game asking each other what they thought and who they liked. On top of that no one even responded except Texas who said he thought it was a nono. D has a great rep he has earned. So i decided to listen to him and no ask anymore. But despite that I dont think simply asking is collusion or breaking the rules. If you think so it's your right. Well call it my loss.

And I never said what you do isn't ok. I simply meant it seems to take some fun out of the game. But it's your right to do whatever you think will get you ahead.

So what's the purpose of you asking several coaches who they are going after? To avoid recruiting battles?

Collusive transactions

Collusion includes any act that supports bad, deceitful or illegal behavior agreed upon by two or more users. Here are a few examples:

• Trades that clearly benefit one side.
• Dropping/waiving a player so that another team may pick him up.
• Using 1 team to scout for another team.
• Making agreements with other users to go or not go after specific players with the intent of avoiding recruiting/negotiation battles.
• Coaching 2 or more teams in the same world using multiple user IDs within the same conference or regional area of the country is not allowed as it presents opportunities for collusive behavior. All such situations brought to our attention will be investigated and violations of this policy will result in the removal or relocation of one or all of the IDs.
• Intentionally throwing a game to ensure another team improves its chances for a post-season bid.
• Intentionally signing questionable players that benefit the former club (i.e. Type-A free-agents in Hardball Dynasty.)
• Arranging a trade with another franchise so the other franchise can sign a free-agent resulting in the other franchise receiving compensation picks.

If playing teams way above your talent level is fun, why arent you doing it? In your nonconf this season and next season, you haven't scheduled a single team with prestige higher than C+ while your prestige is at B. I'm at least playing C+ and B- prestige teams while I'm only at C+. 

The only thing this thread has demonstrated is that WIS owners love to criticize others for stuff they are doing right now. Hypocrisy is well and alive!

No I felt that a coach asking about a player with another coach is not cheating but wis says it is then it is. I've never done it or need to because guys come to Texas all the time including tianyi . You just seem spiteful and love to call people out. Also if you red the comment it said lets move on from Let's ask Coach of the Century to play in the challenge.

iwanturmind2, which of the following happened first:

1) trobone coming to this thread telling me I'm a wuss for refusing to play in this challenge
2) myself calling trobone a hypocrite for the way he schedules and his attempt to cheat 2 seasons ago

If someone is going to call me out for a terrible and unjustiable reason, I'm going to respond. Pretty natural reaction. 

Having said that, I wish you guys best of luck in the challenge.

Please stop mentioning my name regarding this matter and I won't post anymore in this thread. 

I have Utah and waiting on San Diego St for Next season.  Looking forward to the challenge.  Good luck to all teams.

PVAM 61 - SDSU 54