Posted by raucous on 3/11/2011 1:34:00 PM (view original):
Then maybe patches should have kept his head up. 

Posted by raucous on 3/11/2011 2:03:00 PM (view original):
I heard the same crap from Canadien fans when Bergeron got his. 

where?

Posted by deathinahole on 3/11/2011 1:56:00 PM (view original):
I think, while it's important to discuss the incident, the incident is a result of the culture.

It's important to realize that, while the outcome doesn't happen every day, that hit happens multiple times every game.

It's also important to realize that it wasn't always that way.

So, the discussion, in my opinion, is why is it this way, and do we need to see someone get killed before we start enforcing Charging and Boarding as it is written in the rule book.

I'm telling you now, hitting will not be gone from the game if it is enforced. You will no longer see the steamroller crossed forearm body check. You may actually start seeing more Charley horse inducing crumpling hip checks. I mean, once the current generation of players get taught it.

Posted by aginor on 3/10/2011 11:23:00 PM (view original):
Knowing the NHL..that's about right. So long as Bettman is the Commish, nothing of any real meaning will be done about it.  Oh they "might" fix the arenas etc, but not after a fair bit of debate and maybe several dozen meetings etc etc etc..  And they might agree to 'look into the problem' during the offseason (again).... 

Where is the NHLPA in all this..one member almost got killed and the other is now under a very large microscope.. and they stay silent?  You'd at the very least think they'd speak up about fixing the arenas and defending Chara (whether he actually deserves to be defended or not..).    Instead their silence is rather LOUD.   Nice to know those union dues are not being wasted...  Geez the P.M. as said more about this than they have...  How sad... 

Posted by aginor on 3/11/2011 2:21:00 PM (view original):

Posted by deathinahole on 3/11/2011 1:56:00 PM (view original):
I think, while it's important to discuss the incident, the incident is a result of the culture.

It's important to realize that, while the outcome doesn't happen every day, that hit happens multiple times every game.

It's also important to realize that it wasn't always that way.

So, the discussion, in my opinion, is why is it this way, and do we need to see someone get killed before we start enforcing Charging and Boarding as it is written in the rule book.

I'm telling you now, hitting will not be gone from the game if it is enforced. You will no longer see the steamroller crossed forearm body check. You may actually start seeing more Charley horse inducing crumpling hip checks. I mean, once the current generation of players get taught it.

ABSOLUTE FRIGGIN' LOOTLY

Yes Hockey is a physical game..always will be. BUT it is time for the NHL to calling the rules as they are written.  There still be hitting and it still will be a physical game. It just that most modern day hockey players don't know how to hit 'properly'.  

Also it's not that using the boards in a check is wrong and can't be done cleanly.  A perfect example is Denis Potvin..this guy would make it look like there was chance to go around him on the outside.  Soon as you took the bait, he'd close the door on you!  But he didn't go high and trying plaster your face into the glass (as most players do today), in fact he stayed low and just trapped you between the boards and him.  A very effective and very clean hip style hit...you never saw a guy on the ice out cold from these hits or out with a knee injury.  But I'm sure you had a 'charley-horse' to remember!  Yea you were hit hard but it was clean....

Players today have lost art of hitting, now it's all about 'wallpapering' a guy and/or putting an elbow/shoulder to a guy's head.

  

Posted by theodry on 3/11/2011 2:06:00 PM (view original):
listen to the class in the first 2 minutes of this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5CU8L0kwwg

Posted by deathinahole on 3/11/2011 2:27:00 PM (view original):

Posted by aginor on 3/11/2011 2:21:00 PM (view original):

Posted by deathinahole on 3/11/2011 1:56:00 PM (view original):
I think, while it's important to discuss the incident, the incident is a result of the culture.

It's important to realize that, while the outcome doesn't happen every day, that hit happens multiple times every game.

It's also important to realize that it wasn't always that way.

So, the discussion, in my opinion, is why is it this way, and do we need to see someone get killed before we start enforcing Charging and Boarding as it is written in the rule book.

I'm telling you now, hitting will not be gone from the game if it is enforced. You will no longer see the steamroller crossed forearm body check. You may actually start seeing more Charley horse inducing crumpling hip checks. I mean, once the current generation of players get taught it.

ABSOLUTE FRIGGIN' LOOTLY

Yes Hockey is a physical game..always will be. BUT it is time for the NHL to calling the rules as they are written.  There still be hitting and it still will be a physical game. It just that most modern day hockey players don't know how to hit 'properly'.  

Also it's not that using the boards in a check is wrong and can't be done cleanly.  A perfect example is Denis Potvin..this guy would make it look like there was chance to go around him on the outside.  Soon as you took the bait, he'd close the door on you!  But he didn't go high and trying plaster your face into the glass (as most players do today), in fact he stayed low and just trapped you between the boards and him.  A very effective and very clean hip style hit...you never saw a guy on the ice out cold from these hits or out with a knee injury.  But I'm sure you had a 'charley-horse' to remember!  Yea you were hit hard but it was clean....

Players today have lost art of hitting, now it's all about 'wallpapering' a guy and/or putting an elbow/shoulder to a guy's head.

  

I hated Potvin. But for all the right reasons. ie. he was good, and he wasn't on my team.