Posted by andru2797 on 4/22/2011 9:22:00 AM (view original):

Posted by moy23 on 4/21/2011 11:39:00 PM (view original):
Andru =  Ottawa GM

I'll give you Campbell + 2011 1st Round Pick for LW Nick Foligno





IMO 

Hawks get cap relief over the next 5 seasons and a good sized scrappy left winger (28th pick overall).  I'd use ~$4 mil to go after a player like Ian White or Joni Pitkanen in FA to replace campbell so we'd lose campbell and a mid to late 1st round pick for foligno, white/pitkanen, and $2 mil to help re-sign crawford.    




Ottawa gets its 3rd 2011 1st round pick to go with the #6 overall pick and Nashville's 2011 1st Round pick.   They also get a top tier dman paired with Gochar, Kuba or Phillips.   

Ottawa would be at $49.3 mil with 15 players signed through  2011.... leaving them $12.6 to upgrade (and I mean upgrade) the final 6 roster spots.  



Thoughts?  How far off am I?

I'd like to make the deal, but considering the cap constraints it would put on the Sens, I'd need a little more incentive. Campbell is a nice player, but Erik Karlsson still needs to be signed (along with other RFAs) and he'll command upwards of 3.5 million and is a better, younger offensive option than Campbell that can play in the top 4 next season. That'll put us right up against the cap.

If the Hawks are willing to give us Campbell, a 1st rounder and maybe Dylan Olsen or Kyle Beach for Foligno, and possibly a 3rd round pick, I'd take the deal. Of course for the Hawks, it would have to hinge on them getting a deal done with Foligno who is an RFA.

"If the Hawks are willing to give us Campbell"
Who is "us"?  I thought you were first and foremost a Hawks fan?  Is this a freudian slip?  Are we to expect now that if and/or when the Senators return to prominence, the last several seasons didn't really exist for you and your allegiances will suddenly and dramatically turn to Ottawa?  Just a question because I found this statement to be suspiciously odd.

Posted by jiml60 on 4/23/2011 2:13:00 AM (view original):
You are not blocking this user, juiced33, but reading his stupidity could be contagious.

So you admit that you are stupid jim?  By the way, it's spelled "choking".  A "chock" is what keeps my trailer from rolling into the lake when I go camping.

Posted by holer on 4/24/2011 12:00:00 AM (view original):

Posted by andru2797 on 4/22/2011 9:22:00 AM (view original):

Posted by moy23 on 4/21/2011 11:39:00 PM (view original):
Andru =  Ottawa GM

I'll give you Campbell + 2011 1st Round Pick for LW Nick Foligno





IMO 

Hawks get cap relief over the next 5 seasons and a good sized scrappy left winger (28th pick overall).  I'd use ~$4 mil to go after a player like Ian White or Joni Pitkanen in FA to replace campbell so we'd lose campbell and a mid to late 1st round pick for foligno, white/pitkanen, and $2 mil to help re-sign crawford.    




Ottawa gets its 3rd 2011 1st round pick to go with the #6 overall pick and Nashville's 2011 1st Round pick.   They also get a top tier dman paired with Gochar, Kuba or Phillips.   

Ottawa would be at $49.3 mil with 15 players signed through  2011.... leaving them $12.6 to upgrade (and I mean upgrade) the final 6 roster spots.  



Thoughts?  How far off am I?

I'd like to make the deal, but considering the cap constraints it would put on the Sens, I'd need a little more incentive. Campbell is a nice player, but Erik Karlsson still needs to be signed (along with other RFAs) and he'll command upwards of 3.5 million and is a better, younger offensive option than Campbell that can play in the top 4 next season. That'll put us right up against the cap.

If the Hawks are willing to give us Campbell, a 1st rounder and maybe Dylan Olsen or Kyle Beach for Foligno, and possibly a 3rd round pick, I'd take the deal. Of course for the Hawks, it would have to hinge on them getting a deal done with Foligno who is an RFA.

"If the Hawks are willing to give us Campbell"
Who is "us"?  I thought you were first and foremost a Hawks fan?  Is this a freudian slip?  Are we to expect now that if and/or when the Senators return to prominence, the last several seasons didn't really exist for you and your allegiances will suddenly and dramatically turn to Ottawa?  Just a question because I found this statement to be suspiciously odd.

Role reversal. I'm taking the hawks - dru is taking Ottawa .... and I'm trying to prove / disprove that campbell could be traded if the hawks management had the brass to give up more than just campbell.

Btw andru .... I'll get an answer back to you when I have some time.... but just this one team does look like it 'could' iron out a deal that helps both teams. Imo.

Ok, that explains it.  Strange game to play, but it does explain things.

Posted by holer on 4/24/2011 12:11:00 AM (view original):

Posted by jiml60 on 4/23/2011 2:13:00 AM (view original):
You are not blocking this user, juiced33, but reading his stupidity could be contagious.

So you admit that you are stupid jim?  By the way, it's spelled "choking".  A "chock" is what keeps my trailer from rolling into the lake when I go camping.

I'm surprised you found the typo considering you didn't understand the meaning of the sentence of mine you quoted.

Posted by holer on 4/24/2011 12:00:00 AM (view original):

Posted by andru2797 on 4/22/2011 9:22:00 AM (view original):

Posted by moy23 on 4/21/2011 11:39:00 PM (view original):
Andru =  Ottawa GM

I'll give you Campbell + 2011 1st Round Pick for LW Nick Foligno





IMO 

Hawks get cap relief over the next 5 seasons and a good sized scrappy left winger (28th pick overall).  I'd use ~$4 mil to go after a player like Ian White or Joni Pitkanen in FA to replace campbell so we'd lose campbell and a mid to late 1st round pick for foligno, white/pitkanen, and $2 mil to help re-sign crawford.    




Ottawa gets its 3rd 2011 1st round pick to go with the #6 overall pick and Nashville's 2011 1st Round pick.   They also get a top tier dman paired with Gochar, Kuba or Phillips.   

Ottawa would be at $49.3 mil with 15 players signed through  2011.... leaving them $12.6 to upgrade (and I mean upgrade) the final 6 roster spots.  



Thoughts?  How far off am I?

I'd like to make the deal, but considering the cap constraints it would put on the Sens, I'd need a little more incentive. Campbell is a nice player, but Erik Karlsson still needs to be signed (along with other RFAs) and he'll command upwards of 3.5 million and is a better, younger offensive option than Campbell that can play in the top 4 next season. That'll put us right up against the cap.

If the Hawks are willing to give us Campbell, a 1st rounder and maybe Dylan Olsen or Kyle Beach for Foligno, and possibly a 3rd round pick, I'd take the deal. Of course for the Hawks, it would have to hinge on them getting a deal done with Foligno who is an RFA.

"If the Hawks are willing to give us Campbell"
Who is "us"?  I thought you were first and foremost a Hawks fan?  Is this a freudian slip?  Are we to expect now that if and/or when the Senators return to prominence, the last several seasons didn't really exist for you and your allegiances will suddenly and dramatically turn to Ottawa?  Just a question because I found this statement to be suspiciously odd.

You know, if you go back and find the start of a conversation, you won't have to show your ignorance with comments like this.  But I'm guessing you still would have been confused.

 Give Jimbo a break , that last batch of moonshine  had a bit too much  Lysol

it is Gator culling season as well ..Jimbo has been working hard

Posted by jiml60 on 4/24/2011 1:47:00 AM (view original):

Posted by holer on 4/24/2011 12:11:00 AM (view original):

Posted by jiml60 on 4/23/2011 2:13:00 AM (view original):
You are not blocking this user, juiced33, but reading his stupidity could be contagious.

So you admit that you are stupid jim?  By the way, it's spelled "choking".  A "chock" is what keeps my trailer from rolling into the lake when I go camping.

I'm surprised you found the typo considering you didn't understand the meaning of the sentence of mine you quoted.

funny how your "typo" involved letters on opposite ends of the keyboard

Maybe it's the epilepsy acting up again

Besides, if you mean to say something, maybe you should actually say it the proper way. When you say you're not blocking a user, and that reading his posts can make you stupid, naturally that means you are reading his posts, and it is making you stupid.  Stupid.

You are considering blocking the author of this post, holer.  You expect better from him and his drivel is beneath him.

You are not blocking this user, holer, but keep this in mind: "Never argue with an idiot. They bring you down to their level and beat you with experience."

looks like randle is going to get his wish tonight. cory schneider confirmed as the starter.

yea thats all cool ..but Holer exposing Jimbo as a complete f#ckin moron is way more entertaining..HAHA...cmon Holer  take it easy..its not fair picking on the handicapped...even with Muddy they are  shorthanded!