STANLEY CUP CHAMPIONS 2009-10 Topic

I just gave you plenty of ammo to fire back at me if I'm wrong muddy..... which I won't be ;)
7/21/2011 10:00 AM
More evidence Chicago hockey bloggers are idiots - John Jaeckel (hockeybuzz.com) predicts Chicago wins the Stanley Cup this season. Dream on JJ.... Dream on.
8/2/2011 9:53 AM
Sharp just signed..... 5 years
8/3/2011 12:47 PM
5 years - $5.9 AAV
8/3/2011 2:14 PM
Posted by moy23 on 8/2/2011 9:53:00 AM (view original):
More evidence Chicago hockey bloggers are idiots - John Jaeckel (hockeybuzz.com) predicts Chicago wins the Stanley Cup this season. Dream on JJ.... Dream on.
I thought you agreed with most of what he said? :-P He's an idiot. This is a guy who once claimed that if the Hawks lost Brouwer and Kopecky this off-season they would become a non-playoff team.

I've given hockeybuzz.com a chance over the last few months and have had a very hard time reading some of their bloggers. They either can't write, don't know what they're talking about or both.

As for Sharpie, the interesting part of the deal is the term. The Blackhawks now have at least 17 players locked up for the next two seasons, with 12 locked up for the next 3. That includes every single core member of the team. This is a group that is very good and are proven winners. I don't think it's a terrible strategy on the Hawks part to keep those guys together and try and retool the bottom third of the roster every summer.

In a salary cap world where keeping teams together has become increasingly difficult, would you rather your team search for top line players every off-season in order to plug big holes or have to sign 5-6 depth guys to support your Stanley Cup winning core?

The other interesting thing is that many of the young prospects the Hawks have will have time to mature and make it to the NHL before the contracts of the core players expire. That is what is probably the most important part of getting all the core guys locked up.

Toews, Kane, Sharp, Hossa, Bolland, Frolik, Keith, Seabrook, Hammer and Crawford are all young enough, and have enough seasons left on their deals to allow the likes of Beach, Morin, Kruger, Smith, the Hayes brothers, McNeill, Olsen, Lalonde and many others to mature and come in and fill those "bottom-half-of-the-roster" spots for another serious run or two at a Stanley Cup as a top contender.

There are a couple of things Stan Bowman has done well here. He has kept a winning core which I doubt anyone will dispute is a good enough core to win a Cup together, and he has stockpiled several prospects who project to be solid NHL players at various points of the next 1-3 seasons. He has positioned his team in a favorable position both from a talent development and salary cap perspective. Now it's up to the coaching staff and players to go out and play up to their potential.
8/3/2011 3:47 PM
yeah - I like JJ but he is an idiot imo if he thinks the hawks win it all. Maybe a playoff team - but no way a stanley cup championship squad.

I only read a few guys from hockeybuzz - Bill Meltzer and JJ in particular. Part of me thinks that the hawks prediction is satire - he sounds like every other hawks blogger with that one, which generally is not his shtick.


As for the Hawks. Time will tell. I like their core - but as I've pointed out many times I think the other 2/3rds of the team blows.


I also think the hawks are putting TOO MUCH stock in Crawford. Before last season hawks fans were saying they are screwed if Turco gets hurt.... that was 1 year ago today when Crawford was a complete unknown.


Speaking of goalies and to put Crawford in perspective - Where would you rank Crawford for 2011-12 amongst all NHL goalies? IMO he is easily in the 15-30 range behind players like Miller, Luongo, Fleury, Bryz, Thomas, Rask, Quick, Lundqvist, Price, Ward, Rinne, Roloson, Vokoun, Brodour, Niemi, Reimer.... and maybe backups like Schneider and Bernier.... Its not like he is upper eschelon (sp?) at this point in his career. Hawks fans seem to put him way too high on the list imo. can't wait for hockey season.... but before then.... Eagles got Nnamdi!!!!
8/3/2011 4:16 PM
I personally would put him ahead of reimer, quick and especially rask. In my mind, there's Miller, Lundqvist, Rinne, Thomas, Ward, Luongo and Price in the top of the goaltending class. Then I put fleury, bryzgalov, hiller, vokoun and brodeur. Crawford follows those guys at this point, but if he maintains his play of last season then he could possibly crack the top 10 this season.
8/3/2011 5:58 PM
You are leaving out niemi. Is that intentional? Task and reimer could make a case to be in the same 'class' as Crawford.

Quick is solid and better than I think you give him credit for... He could win a cup this season if doughty re-signs.

Btw - weber got $7.5 mil in arbitration.
8/3/2011 6:13 PM
Great move to extend Sharpie.  He's a glue guy for sure.

I won't say the Hawks WILL win the Cup this year, but they have as good a chance as anyone going into the season.  Pluswhise, they're loaded in the system.  Should be a great decade for us.
8/3/2011 7:18 PM
I disagree muddy...I think the pre-season favorites have to be Washington, Boston, Vancouver, San Jose and los Angeles. I think those 5 are a clear step above the rest. Pittsburgh, Philly, Tampa, Detroit, Nashville and Chicago are all in that second tier but all have question marks going into the season.

As for the goaltending question, I saw that puck daddy post moy...here's my ranking going into the season:

Ryan Miller
Henrik Lundqvist
Pekka Rinne
Tim Thomas
Cam Ward
Roberto Luongo
Carey Price
M.A. Fleury
Jonas Hiller
Martin Brodeur
Ilya Bryzgalov
Tomas Vokoun
Antti Niemi
Corey Crawford
Jonathan Quick
Craig Anderson
Dwayne Roloson
Jaroslav Halak
Niklas Backstrom
Jimmy Howard
Mikka Kiprusoff
Kari Lehtonen
James Reimer
Ondrej Pavelec
Steve Mason
Cory Schneider
Jonathan Bernier
8/3/2011 7:57 PM
Price,Fleury,Bryzgalov,Vokoun,Crawford,Anderson,Roloson,Halak,Backstrom,Howard,Schneider are all better than Luongo..other than that i agree with your list
8/3/2011 8:07 PM
Good List Andru.  


Predicting the Hawks to win the SC is silly - that's like me saying Philly will win it all this season because they are my favorite team.   I mean they 'could' but I'm not putting any money on it.  Washington is SCARY talented this season. Vancouver, Boston, San Jose, LAK, and (w/ a healthy Sid and Malkin) Pitt are all deep enough and talented enough on Offense, Defense, and in Net to be the favorites.  Like Andru said - the rest of the field has too many question marks.  
8/3/2011 8:17 PM
I also like what the Jets are doing bringing in local Manitoba kids and i also like Buff,Ladd and Kane ..more character than the Canucks have already in those 3 guys..hope Gillis gets off his *** and gets some toughness in here..all i see is team Euro so far with a mentally fragile loser in net..not a winning formula
8/3/2011 8:17 PM
Posted by randle44 on 8/3/2011 8:07:00 PM (view original):
Price,Fleury,Bryzgalov,Vokoun,Crawford,Anderson,Roloson,Halak,Backstrom,Howard,Schneider are all better than Luongo..other than that i agree with your list
heh
8/3/2011 8:17 PM
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