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Wannabe XLVI - Bicycle Race

Welcome to the largest team blacklist in the entire universe!

We are winding up our 45th season and it's time to pick teams for the 45th go-around. I'll just post the rules we've used for the first 45 seasons and we'll go on from there. Everyone who was in Season XLV is guaranteed a spot this time if they want to stay. Anyone who wants to get on the wait-list can just leave their name and we'll take them as spots open up. First come, first served (although owners with 5 or more previous seasons in wannabe are bumped to the front of the waitlist). It's always a fun league with a lot of league wide banter.

* $106 million cap
* NO WW
* NO AAA
* No Trades
* DH this time around

2012 teams will be available this time, based on current rosters.

Pick any team from any year. (For this season we've blacklisted the teams used in seasons 1 through 45. I'll post a list of those teams here in the forum.) Get the roster from www.baseball-reference.com and use anyone who played for your team that year. You can use any season of their career as long as they made at least 1 appearance for your team during the year you picked. Simple enough, right? I think everyone has this figured out by now, but if you don't, just ask.

Playing out of position is OK at your own peril.

NO AAA. If you're playing with the '75 Reds, then use the players on that team, not some imaginary players. Make sure you draft enough innings pitched and enough at-bats per position.

You can pick any $200K player from any year in your franchise history. It doesn't matter if you have a backup available from your year or not. If you want a $200K player, take one. Actually, you can even take a $250K player if you want. Anyone who comes up during the $200K + or - $50K search is OK with me. If there isn't a $200K guy available, you can use the cheapest you can find. If you pick the Rockies, Diamondbacks, Devil Rays, or Marlins, you can use all 4 of those teams for your $200K pool. If you have any questions about this, just ask.

(With the salary changes, it may be tougher to find $200K players for some teams. If it becomes a problem, we'll work something out.)

NO CLONES.

If you pick an old-time team that only had 7 pitchers, fill the other slots with $200K's from your franchise history. You probably won't need their innings anyway and you can use them as mop-ups.

Only 1 team per owner. I want to give everyone a chance if they want to play.

Use the stadium your team played in. If it's not available, then use another one in the same city or a reasonable alternative.

Name your team anything you want.

Bust some chops in the forum. If you sweep me, feel free to tell me how much my team sucks and how great your team is. And laugh it off when someone does the same to you.

Only one person can have a specific team and season. The first one to grab the '61 Yankees gets them. The next Yankee fan has to settle for the '27 team or whatever their other favorite is. I don't care how many Yankee teams are in the league as long as each one is a different season.

Head2Head is fine with me as long as it's the next game on the schedule. I don't want anyone jumping ahead. There will be NO Head2Head after game #120. (Since H2H is now free to everyone, I'm making a slight change here. Instead of just the next game, you can play the next full series H2H if you want. Just don't jump ahead of the schedule, and still NO H2H after game #120.)

My guess is that divisions will be along time lines, but I don't have any real preference. In the first 43 leagues, we've used time lines for the divisions, but we're flexible. If you want to be in a division with someone else, we'll work it out.

Whatever I forgot to include I'll throw in later. Let me know if you see a problem. I know these rules are different from some of the other twist leagues, but they can work.

* Do not use the same team without at least a 5 year span between them. If someone else has the '27 Yankees, then don't use the '23-'32 Yankees. This rule is in place to have more variety in the teams we choose and the rosters. Exceptions can be made by the commissioner if he feels the rosters are different enough.

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Blacklisted Teams:

These are the blacklisted teams. mfumar actually put some effort into this and organized them alphabetically and in chronological order. I know we're going to run out of teams at the rate we're going, but it's fun looking for new teams to twist. We talked about doing away with the blacklist because of the recent changes, but I think most of us want to keep it. I like seeing different teams each time around.

A's:(40) '02, '08, '09, '10, '11, '12, '13, '14, '26, '27, '28, '29, '30, '31, '32, '33, '69, '70, '71, '72, '73, '74, '75, '76, '83, '84, '85, '86, '87, '88, '89, '90, '91, '92, '95, '99, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2006

Angels:(20) '61, '62, '67, '71, '77, '79, '82, '83, '84, '85, '87, '90, '91, '92, '97, '99, 2003, 2004, 2006, 2008

Astros:(29) '65, '66, '67, '68, '69, '70, '72, '76, '79, '80, '81, '82, '83, '84, '85, '86, '87, '88, '89, '90, '91, '95, '97, '98, 2000, 2001, 2004, 2005, 2006

Blue Jays:(19) '85, '86, '87, '88, '89, '90, '91, '92, '93, '94, '95, '96, '97, '98, '99, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2008

Braves:(44) 1898, 1899, 1900, '17, '19, '35, '42, '46, '47, '48, '49, '50, '57, '58, '59, '60, '61, '62, '66, '67, '68, '69, '70, '71, '72, '75, '82, '88, '89, '93, '94, '95, '96, '97, '98, '99, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011

Brewers:(12) '69, '78, '80, '81, '82, '83, '84, '85, '91, '92, '93, 2008

Cards:(73) 1887, 1889, 1899, '00, '21, '23, '24, '25, '26, '27, '28, '29, '30, '31, '32, '33, '34, '38, '39, '40, '41, '42, '43, '44, '46, '47, '48, '50, '51, '52, '55, '56, '59, '60, '61, '62, '63, '64, '65, '66, '67, '68, '69, '70, '71, '73, '74, '75, '80, '81, '82, '83, '85, '86, '87, '88, '89, '90, '91, '92, '97, '98, '99, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009

Colonels:(1) 1899

Cubs:(53) '06, '07, '08, '09, '10, '11, '12, '13, '16, '26, '29, '32, '33, '34, '35, '39, '44, '45, '59, '60, '61, '62, '63, '64, '65, '66, '67, '68, '69, '70, '71, '72, '73, 74, '77, '78, '80, '85, '86, '87, '88, '89, '91, '92, '93, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008

Diamondbacks:(8) '99, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2008

Dodgers:(70) 1899, 1900, '01, '26, '29, '31, '32, '33, '40, '41, '42, '43, '44, '47, '48, '49, '50, '51, '52, '53, '54, '55, '56, '57, '58, '59, '60, '61, '62, '63, '64, '65, '66, '67, '68, '69, '71, '72, '74, '75, '76, '77, '78, '79, '80, '81, '82, '83, '85, '87, '88, '89, '90, '91, '92, '93, '96, '97, '98, '99, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009

Giants:(69) 1888, '04, '05, '06, '08, '10, '11, '12, '13, '14, '16, '17, '18, '19, '20, '21, '22, '23, '24, '27, '28, '29, '31, '32, '33, '34, '35, '36, '39, '41, '42, '51, '52, '54, '55, '58, '59, '60, '61, '62, '63, '64, '65, '66, '67, '68, '69, '70, '71, '72, '73, '75, '76, '79, '80, '86, '87, '89, '90, '91, '93, '98, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2005, 2009, 2010, 2011

Indians:(52) '02, '03, '04, '09, '10, '14, '19, '20, '21, '22, '31, '37, '39, '41, '46, '47, '48, '49, '50, '51, '52, '53, '54, '55, '56, '57, '58, '59, '64, '65, '66, '67, '74, '75, '82, '86, '87, '93, '94, '95, '96, '97, '98, '99, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008

Mariners:(21) '88, '89, '90, '91, '92, '93, '94, '95, '96, '97, '98, '99, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2009, 2010

Marlins:(7) '96, '97, '98, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005

Mets:(28) '67, '69, '70, '72, '73, '75, '76, '79, '82, '84, '85, '86, '87, '88, '89, '90, '91, '92, '93, '99, 2000, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009

Nationals/Expos:(13) '79, '80, '81, '82, '84, '85, '89, '90, '94, '95, '96, 2002, 2005

Orioles/Browns:(48) '17, '22, '25, '43, '44, '53, '55, '56, '57, '58, '59, '60, '61, '62, '63, '64, '65, '66, '67, '68, '69, '70, '71, '72, '73, '74, '75, '76, '77, '78, '79, '80, '81, '82, '83, '88, '90, '93, '94, '95, '96, '98, '99, 2002, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007

Orioles (Old Time):(4) 1894, 1895, 1897, 1898

Padres:(11) '78, '79, '87, '90, '96, '97, 2003, 2004, 2006, 2007, 2008

Phillies:(58) 1891, 1892, 1893, 1895, 1896, 1898, 1899, '00, '01, '12, '13, '16, '17, '21, '30, '36, '41, '45, '48, '49, '54, '56, '59, '63, '64, '65, '66, '67, '68, '73, '74, '75, '76, '77, '78, '79, '80, '81, '82, '83, '84, '85, '86, '89, '90, '93, '94, '95, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012

Pirates:(44) '00, '01, '02, '03, '08, '09, '10, '11, '12, '13, '14, '15, '22, '23, '24, '25, '26, '27, '29, '33, '35, '39, '47, '65, '67, '68, '69, '70, '71, '72, '74, '75, '77, '79, '81, '83, '86, '87, '89, '90, '91, '92, '93, 2001

Rangers:(20) '71, '74, '77, '78, '79, '80, '85, '86, '89, '90, '91, '92, '93, '94, '98, '99, 2001, 2002, 2005, 2008

Rays: (2) '99, 2000

Red Sox:(60) '07, '08, '09, '12, '14, '15, '16, '19, '39, '40, '41, '42, '46, '48, '52, '65, '66, '67, '68, '71, '72, '73, '74, '75, '76, '77, '78, '79, '80, '81, '82, '83, '84, '85, '86, '87, '88, '89, '90, '91, '92, '93, '94, '95, '96, '97, '98, '99, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011

Reds [Boston AA]:(2) 1890, 1891

Reds:(47) '02, '13, '19, '20, '23, '25, '26, '27, '32, '33, '37, '39, '40, '41, '47, '52, '56, '57, '59, '62, '63, '64, '65, '67, '68, '70, '71, '72, '73, '74, '75, '76, '77, '78, '79, '84, '85, '86, '87, '88, '89, '90, '94, '95, '96, '99, 2007

Rockies:(4) '95, '97, '98, 2009

Royals:(15) '74, '75, '76, '77, '78, '79, '80, '82, '83, '85, '86, '89, '90, '91, 2004

Spiders:(3) 1891, 1892, 1894

Tigers:(36) '12, '15, '18, '21, '24, '26, '30, '34, '35, '36, '37, '39, '40, '41, '46, '51, '60, '61, '63, '66, '67, '68, '69, '72, '73, '77, '82, '84, '85, '87, '88, '94, 2005, 2007, 2008, 2009

Tip-Tops:(1) '15

Twins/Senators:(24) '09, '20, '24, '25, '26, '27, '28, '30, '32, '33, '45, '54, '63, '65, '66, '67, '69, '70, '87, '88, '91, '97, 2005, 2006

Whales:(1) '15

White Sox:(44) '06, '12, '13, '15, '16, '17, '18, '19, '20, '33, '34, '36, '37, '40, '53, '54, '55, '56, '57, '58, '59, '60, '61, '63, '64, '66, '67, '68, '69, '74, '77, '86, '91, '92, '93, '95, '97, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010

Wolverines:(1) 1887

Yankees:(92) '09, '17, '20, '21, '22, '23, '24, '25, '26, '27, '28, '29, '30, '31, '32, '33, '34, '35, '36, '37, '38, '39, '40, '41, '42, '43, '44, '45, '46, '47, '48, '49, '50, '51, '52, '53, '54, '55, '56, '57, '58, '59, '60, '61, '62, '63, '64, '65, '66, '67, '69, '71, '72, '73, '74, '75, '76, '77, '78, '79, '80, '81, '82, '83, '84, '85, '86, '87, '88, '89, '90, '91, '93, '94, '95, '96, '97, '98, '99, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012

If anyone sees any mistakes here, please let me know.

1052 teams used ((43 seasons x 24 teams) + (1 season x 20 teams)) - season 25 used the first 24 world series winners

11/3/2012 1:54 PM (edited)

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owner - team (returning)

emperorp - 1912 Red Sox
tabasko - 1909 Highlanders
sgsmith - 1895 Phillies
trd3 - 1989 Cubs
happyhours - 1942 Red Sox
wetwillytwo - 2011 Tigers
horus_6 - 1983 Orioles
forte4him - 1985 Reds
newarkwilder - 1974 Phillies
lenbo1212 - 2007 Tigers

eman7400 - 1949 Dodgers
famous_dad - 1994 Orioles
ssaffle - 2012 Phillies
cstrohmier - 1925 Reds
dn3524 - 2007 Reds
odalisgagne - 2012 Yankees
bottomlee - 1916 Red Sox
senator_guy - 1908 Naps (Indians)
terry00 - 1978 Royals
sevenfifty5 - 1936 Cardinals

sonfanj1996 - 1966 White Sox
halo23 - 2001 Rangers
greggo72 - 1979 Rangers
gees51 - 1985 Red Sox

8/27/2012 12:37 PM (edited)

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Wait List:

Old-timers returning in future:

zoldab

Leave your name if you want to be included. We usually have a couple of openings and we fill them on a first come, first served basis. Newbies are always welcome to try their hand. We've had a few guys win their first championship in this league.

* returning wannabe with 5+ seasons get moved to the front of the waitlist

8/27/2012 12:38 PM (edited)

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Season - champ - team

1 - 1927 A's - odalisgagne

2 - 1909 A's (2)- gorbyruss

3 - 1900 Braves - gorbyruss [2]

4 - 1907 Cubs - buckyblues

5 - 2000 Astros - keiko

6 - 1892 Phillies - cpmitchno1

7 - 1895 Orioles - ssaffle

8 - 1942 Dodgers - gorbyruss [3]

9 - 1982 Brewers - jgreene

10 - 1976 Royals - mfumar

11 - 1982 Red Sox - cpmitchno1 [2]

12 - 1998 Indians - cpmitchno1 [3]

13 - 1946 Yankees - ronthegenius

14 - 1901 Pirates - dalailama12

15 - 1968 Cardinals - dn3524

16 - 1967 Astros (2) - gorbyruss [4]

17 - 2000 Devil Rays - calhoop

18 - 1916 White Sox - bgalle54

19 - 1999 Cardinals (2)- dn3524 [2]

20 - 1927 Cardinals (3)- bgalle54 [2]

21 - 1930 Tigers - odalisgagne [2]

22 - 1989 Cardinals (4) - dn3524 [3]

23 - 1983 A's (3) - combalt

24 - 1993 Mariners - wetwillytwo

25 - 2000 Astros - keiko [2] (winner of WS league)

26 - 1971 Pirates (2) - sgsmith

27 - 1973 A's (4) - ssaffle [2]

28 - 1930 Yankees (2) - MMTDad

29 - 2000 Red Sox (2) - odalisgagne [3]

30 - 2007 Red Sox (3) - brucel

31 - 1968 Cubs (2) - tgrun

32 - 1948 Yankees (3) - mfumar [2]

33 - 2002 Dodgers (2) - wetwillytwo [2]

34 - 1949 Yankees (4) - emperorp

35 - 1968 Giants - darthdurron

36 - 1991 Cubs (3) - mac195

37 - 1997 Dodgers (3) - stroh23

38 - 1965 Cardinals (5) - mac195 [2]

39 - 1952 Dodgers (4) - emperorp [2]

40 - 1993 Brewers (2) - cstrohmier

41 - 1970 Astros (3) - darthdurron [2]

42 - 1944 Cardinals (6) - sgsmith [2]

43 - 1989 Phillies (2) - stroh23 [2]

44 - 1990 Red Sox (4) - bottomlee
45 - 1981 Orioles (2) - horus_6

7/22/2012 11:06 PM

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some odd minutia about the blacklist

longest stretch of teams taken

48 - Yankees 1920-1967

41 - Red Sox 1971-2011
29 - Orioles 1955-1983

21 - Yankees 1971-1991

23 - Dodgers 1947-1969
20 - Yankees 1993-2012

19 - Mariners 1988-2006

15 - Giants 1959-1973

15 - Cubs 1960-1974
14 - Indians 1946-1959

14 - Phillies 1973-1986
14 - Dodgers 1996-2009
13 - Cardinals 1959-1971

13 - Cardinals 1997-2009

13 - Astros 1979-1991

12 - Cardinals 1923-1934

longest spread between teams

36 years - A's 1933-1969

26 years - Dodgers 1900-1926

1076 of 2492~ Teams have been used (approx 43.2%)

101 of 108 World Series winners have been used

Season XLVI - 1912 Red Sox, 1916 Red Sox, 1983 Orioles

309 of 380 Playoff teams have been used

Season XLVI - 1912 Red Sox, 1916 Red Sox, 1949 Dodgers, 1978 Royals, 1983 Orioles, 1989 Cubs, 2011 Tigers, 2012 Yankees

95 of 97 One hundred Win teams have been used

Season XLVI - 1912 Red Sox

22 of 142 One hundred Loss teams have been used

Season XLVI - 2010 Seattle Mariners

Highest Percentage of teams used of a single season
1967 - 90% (18/20)
1990 - 73% (19/26)
1966 - 70% (14/20)
1989 - 69% (18/26)
1991 - 69% (18/26)
1959 - 69% (11/16)
1985 - 65% (17/26)
1987 - 65% (17/26)
1968 - 65% (13/20)

1965 - 65% (13/20)
2005 - 63% (19/30)
1969 - 63% (15/24)
1933 - 63% (10/16)
1986 - 62% (16/26)

Lowest Percentage of teams used of a single season

1905 - 6% - (1 of 16)

Season that haven't been used

every season since 1887 has been used once

Highest Pct of Franchise Seasons Used

82.1% - New York Yankees (92/112)
58.3% - Seattle Mariners (21/36)
57.9% - St. Louis Cardinals (73/126)
56.9% - Houston Astros (29/51)
55.6% - Los Angeles Dodgers (70/126)
54.9% - New York Mets (28/51)
54.8% - San Francisco Giants (69/126)
53.6% - Boston Red Sox (60/112)
53.3% - Arizona Diamondbacks (8/15)
52.8% - Toronto Blue Jays (19/36)

only clubs to have a team twisted in every decade since 1900

Cleveland Indians and NY/SF Giants and Philadelphia Phillies and New York Yankees

1907 Cubs, 1949 Yankees, 1971 Pirates, 1973 A's and 2007 Red Sox - only teams to win real WS and then a Wannabe WS

11/3/2012 2:41 PM (edited)

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Since I redid the master spreadsheet for this league I was able to see teams not taken, so I took the only World Series winner that also won 100 games that hadn't been taken.

1912 Boston Red Sox

7/22/2012 11:54 PM

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In case you are wondering the final two teams that won 100 games that haven't been used:
1892 Braves
2005 Angels

Winning World Series unused teams:
1903 Red Sox
1916 Red Sox
1918 Red Sox
1945 Tigers
1960 Pirates
1983 Orioles
2002 Angels
2011 Cardinals

7/23/2012 9:17 PM (edited)

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Funny, I was going to take the 1983 Orioles and there they are on the above list. I'll take them, horus_6

7/23/2012 12:46 AM

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1985 Cincinnati Reds

7/23/2012 1:03 AM

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1895 Phillies

7/23/2012 1:40 AM

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I'm pretty sure the Phillies didn't win the series in 1960.

7/23/2012 1:41 AM

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I'm back, although I wish we would've kept the higher cap for a few more seasons so I could empty out my backlog!

put me down for the 1974 Phillies

7/23/2012 9:52 AM

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I'll confirm my return. If it's at all negotiable I'd like to keep the old cap(s) as well. I liked the idea of the rules never changing (aside from the alternating DH).

7/23/2012 2:14 PM

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Back with TBD (whatever cap we end up using)

7/23/2012 2:40 PM

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