Round 2 - 100M Re-Allocation Draft Topic

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May I suggest that instead of determining the order of the first round randomly again, that instead it be the opposite order being used in the 60m league to even things out...

10/15/2011 4:13 PM
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I think you have to draft 10 pitchers, and I thought you had to play them. Were you thinking it is possible to replace a drafted player with a $300K scrub?
10/15/2011 4:14 PM
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no I meant you get stuck with a worthless 10th pitcher and then ignore him
10/15/2011 4:16 PM
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Posted by brianjw on 10/15/2011 4:14:00 PM (view original):
I think you have to draft 10 pitchers, and I thought you had to play them. Were you thinking it is possible to replace a drafted player with a $300K scrub?
No, its possible to draft 5 SPs with say 4 of them having 250+ IPs and therefore that 5th starter would not be used alot (i.e. perhaps you draft a pitching staff with excessive IPs).
10/15/2011 4:18 PM
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Posted by buddhagamer on 10/15/2011 4:13:00 PM (view original):
May I suggest that instead of determining the order of the first round randomly again, that instead it be the opposite order being used in the 60m league to even things out...

this draft isn't like many other drafts..it's based on highest salary picks last next round correct? So it shouldn't be the opposite of the 60mil draft..at least that's what i think..
10/15/2011 4:21 PM
tjefferson
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There's still a random first round.
10/15/2011 4:25 PM
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For the players with 550+ PA, you must draft one C, one 1B, one 2B, one 3B, one SS, three OF (based on primary position). 

For the other hitters, you will draft any two, regardless of position. 

For Starting Pitchers (as designated by WIS), you will draft exactly 5.

For Relief PItchers (as designated by WIS), you will draft exactly 5.

The draft order for the first round will be random.  I will have somebody not in Round 2 select the order (probably shaybee).

As far as strategy, everybody will have some studs, some mediocre players and some crappy players.  The idea is to maximize your studs and minimize your crappy players... At the same time, the more expensive your team is, the lower pick you will have each round.  It's going to be fun trying to balance everything.

10/15/2011 4:25 PM
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Posted by besterateam on 10/15/2011 4:21:00 PM (view original):
Posted by buddhagamer on 10/15/2011 4:13:00 PM (view original):
May I suggest that instead of determining the order of the first round randomly again, that instead it be the opposite order being used in the 60m league to even things out...

this draft isn't like many other drafts..it's based on highest salary picks last next round correct? So it shouldn't be the opposite of the 60mil draft..at least that's what i think..
[Edit] Maybe you misread me, I'm only suggesting that the order for the FIRST round be based on the opposite order of the 60m league instead of it being determined randomly.

Yes that's correct for how this draft works for all subsequent picks after the 1st round.  However the draft order in the 60m one has a definite possible benefit in picking early vs. late in the first round and I would think we'd want to even it out with this one. 

If there was a restriction that half your batters/pitchers had to come from each BAA/ERA then, it shouldn't matter if you picked early in the first round and later in the last round.  But as it is right now, if you could find a huge portion of your pitching staff/batting lineup that is viable from a single ERA/Avg, then picking early is a huge benefit in that league.

Even if we did it reverse of the 60m order, my preference would of been to pick early in the 60m one.

I'm just not a big fan of RANDOM.ORG determining stuff all the time (we're at the mercy of the WIS one enough already ) and I'd even prefer to do it based on 1st round performance (either 24th to help it be more competitive or 1st to reward them for their performance) but whatever Schwarze decides I'll live with.
10/15/2011 4:36 PM (edited)
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the person who picks 24th also gets pick number 25..i don't see a disadvantage in such a small cap..i'd rather pick 24/25 then any other pick in the draft..
10/15/2011 4:34 PM
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tjefferson,

Van Poppel was already selected.  Please pick a replacement player.
10/15/2011 4:38 PM
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If each of these are even, then why not just use the single random order instead of doing it twice then?  Are you sure that there's no advantage if BatandBall gets the first choice in both the 60m and 100m league due to luck?
10/15/2011 4:41 PM
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buddhagamer... we don't have to use random.org

My other method of doing a random order is the following...

One owner sitemails me a random listing of the 24 owners.  A unnamed owner sends me a list of integers 1 thru 24, in a random order.  I post both lists.  I match up the two lists and that determines the draft order.

For example, first list might look like this...

ballantine
schwarze
buddhagamer
wildthings1
...

Second list..
23
7
3
18
...

So ballantine picks 23rd, I pick 7th, etc.
10/15/2011 4:42 PM
schwarze
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If it happens, it happens.  I certainly can't change it now... especially since the first draft order has already happened.

10/15/2011 4:43 PM
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I'm certainly not arguing to change things (I agreed to all the rules when I signed up) and just expressing my viewpoint on draft themes that have a random order for the first round (whether serpentine/salary/etc. subsequently).  Its when there are multiple ones that I cringe at where order is determined randomly multiple times instead of just either doing it once (and then trying to use some type of set pattern) would be a better way to do things in my opinion.

I am definately not of the opinion that the 60m one wasn't done randomly (nor am I disappointed in the manner in which it occurred).

I'm just saying that if all 6 themes were draft themes that would of had their first round selections determined randomly, I would of suggested that instead of doing it 6 times all randomly, do it once and then offset by 4 in all subsequent themes to even things out (i.e. pick 1st in 60m, 5th in 80m, 9th in 90m, etc.).

Do you guys think that that wouldn't be a more even means to determine that than just doing it randomly 6 times (small sample sizes usually don't produce even results ).
10/15/2011 4:55 PM
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Posted by schwarze on 10/15/2011 4:38:00 PM (view original):
tjefferson,

Van Poppel was already selected.  Please pick a replacement player.
FYI I had to pull Bill Castro off too to make it work. Replaced with Ricky Bones and Gabe White.
10/15/2011 5:35 PM
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