Rule V League - Season #31 Draft Thread Topic

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Here's a possible modification to the draft.\

Instead of the draft order based on cumulative W-L % from 1969-2010, use the historical Rule V W-L%.  So, the D'backs would draft 1st and the Astros would draft last.  That would really shake up the team selection process a bit, don't you think?

2/18/2011 4:26 PM
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Posted by schwarze on 2/18/2011 10:43:00 AM (view original):
 
Franchise Years _Wins_ Losses Win% Plyf LCS WS Champ
A's 14 1220 1049 0.538 7 2 1 0
Astros 14 1220 1049 0.538 8 5 4 1
Reds 9 778 680 0.534 3 2 0 0
Dodgers 13 1101 1006 0.523 7 4 2 2
Royals 14 1183 1086 0.521 7 4 1 1
Marlins 11 928 856 0.520 6 3 2 1
Cubs 12 1008 936 0.519 7 1 1 0
Yankees 12 1003 941 0.516 6 3 2 0
Indians 14 1163 1106 0.513 6 2 2 2
Expos 14 1156 1114 0.509 5 3 2 1
Mets 13 1070 1037 0.508 4 2 1 0
Brewers 14 1147 1123 0.505 6 4 0 0
Cardinals 14 1146 1123 0.505 4 2 0 0
Braves 14 1143 1125 0.504 2 2 2 1
Orioles 9 731 728 0.501 1 1 1 1
Rangers 9 731 728 0.501 5 3 1 1
Angels 8 644 652 0.497 1 0 0 0
Giants 13 1038 1069 0.493 2 2 0 0
Mariners 14 1117 1152 0.492 4 1 0 0
Red Sox 14 1114 1155 0.491 4 2 2 2
Rockies 7 543 591 0.479 1 0 0 0
Phillies 14 1085 1185 0.478 6 2 0 0
Padres 13 1005 1101 0.477 4 2 2 0
Blue jays 10 766 855 0.473 3 2 1 1
Twins 14 1072 1197 0.472 0 0 0 0
White Sox 5 379 431 0.468 1 1 0 0
Pirates 9 665 793 0.456 1 1 1 0
Tigers 6 431 541 0.443 1 0 0 0
Rays 3 215 271 0.442 0 0 0 0
D'backs 6 425 547 0.437 0 0 0 0
                 
Total 336 27227 27227 0.500 112 56 28 14
Here are the historical records again
2/18/2011 4:27 PM
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Interesting schwarze.  The Red Sox and Giants would seem to benefit greatly from this move (teams with pretty good depth but would improve the quality of their draft picks) while teams like the Marlins, Cubs and Expos would certainly seem to take a hit. 
2/18/2011 4:38 PM
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Posted by schwarze on 2/18/2011 4:26:00 PM (view original):

Here's a possible modification to the draft.\

Instead of the draft order based on cumulative W-L % from 1969-2010, use the historical Rule V W-L%.  So, the D'backs would draft 1st and the Astros would draft last.  That would really shake up the team selection process a bit, don't you think?

That's an interesting thought.  One downside to it, as an example, the Phillies are usually a playoff contender, but have a poor overall winning % because of one 29-133 season that was obviously a huge outlier. 
2/18/2011 5:02 PM
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Good point.  To be fair, I should remove the seasons with the high and low win total from each team to eliminate this type of situation.

This table removes the seasons with the high and low W-L records and recalculates...  I re-sorted in reverse order (and show the rank, including the previous rank before the removal of high/low seasons)

 
Franchise __Years__ __Wins__ Losses Winning% __Rank__ Prev Rk
Rays 1 67 95 0.414 1 2
D'backs 4 281 367 0.434 2 1
Tigers 4 292 356 0.451 3 3
Pirates 7 522 612 0.460 4 4
White Sox 3 232 254 0.477 5 5
Rockies 5 387 423 0.478 6 10
Padres 11 852 930 0.478 7 8
Twins 12 940 1005 0.483 8 6
Blue jays 8 627 670 0.483 9 7
Giants 11 875 908 0.491 10 13
Phillies 12 958 988 0.492 11 9
Red Sox 12 962 983 0.495 12 11
Angels 6 486 486 0.500 13 14
Orioles 7 570 565 0.502 14 15
Mariners 12 982 963 0.505 15 12
Braves 12 985 959 0.507 16 17
Brewers 12 987 958 0.507 17 19
Expos 12 990 956 0.509 18 21
Mets 11 909 874 0.510 19 20
Rangers 7 579 556 0.510 20 15
Cardinals 12 996 949 0.512 21 18
Indians 12 1001 944 0.515 22 22
Yankees 10 841 779 0.519 23 23
Cubs 10 844 776 0.521 24 24
Royals 12 1014 931 0.521 25 26
Marlins 9 763 697 0.523 26 25
Dodgers 11 940 843 0.527 27 27
Reds 7 607 527 0.535 28 28
A's 12 1047 898 0.538 29 29
Astros 12 1061 884 0.546 30 29
2/18/2011 5:12 PM
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A team like the Diamondbacks is the perfect reason to consider this draft order.  They have a decent historical W-L percentage, but that doesn't factor in that they have way fewer years to choose players from.
2/18/2011 8:04 PM (edited)
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Hmmm...definitely something to ponder.
2/18/2011 6:05 PM
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I like it, seems like it might be cool to try it out a few times to see how it works.  I actually have thought about taking the Dbacks before but just couldn't pull the trigger because of where they were drafting. 
2/18/2011 8:10 PM
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Something else to consider...  The above order will actually change a bit, after factoring in the results of season 31.  So, in esssence, each season's results will modify the rankings and the draft order will continually change.  If Boston and SF are undervalued now, then a couple of good seasons will move them down in the draft order.
2/18/2011 8:12 PM
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I'd be willing to give that a try for next season.  You're right about the D-backs...they're probably the team that suffers the most with the current setup, while the Mariners probably benefit the most, as they were so awful through the late 70's and 80's.
2/19/2011 1:10 PM
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that would be overcompensating. a teams result depends on their draft position. maybe average the two numbers.

another method is to draft in reverse order of team selection. have a pre-draft to select the order of team selection.
2/19/2011 2:57 PM (edited)
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not only do I give MAJOR props for the guys who took their time on this, but also, I LOVE the new draft theory.  Removing the best ever season / worst ever, gives this Rule V a good little make over!! I would be for it
2/19/2011 7:44 PM
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I understand that using the historical win% as a new basis for the draft order is not perfect... but the idea is that after a few iterations under the new format, the "bargain teams" will start to drop in the draft order.  And it will keep things fresh as the draft order will continually change from season to season.
2/19/2011 7:58 PM
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I like that Rule V draft change suggestion, too.  Would be interesting to see tried for a few seasons.
2/20/2011 3:42 AM
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Looks good!!
2/20/2011 6:24 AM
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