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Posted by Tammyk on 11/2/2011 4:08:00 PM (view original):
OF Allen Craig

Also trading Mat Latos to dn for Richie Weeks and Keith Moreland

Dn to confirm

confirm...though would have loved to get Allen Craig of my Redbirds too! :)
11/2/2011 4:09 PM
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11/2/2011 4:26 PM
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Posted by gonoles777 on 11/2/2011 3:05:00 PM (view original):
Kansas City is going to roll the dice on Tommy Hanson (P) coming back healthy
Hanson is one of my keepers. As are Cecil and Sipp, who you have listed as available.

EDIT: I just noticed Sipp was omitted from my keeper/cut list, so I added him, but if the consensus is that I should make him a cut, I'll go along with it.
11/2/2011 10:29 PM (edited)
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3B Mike Moustakas
11/2/2011 10:25 PM
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the keeper issue with Jtpsops' list - having now 22 listed keepers - is being addressed...please do not post any draft picks until 10:00 AM - Thursday - WIS time
11/3/2011 1:04 AM
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"having now 22 listed keepers"?

Check your lists. My post in that thread has said "22 keepers" since the beginning.  My I/R - retired - cuts haven't changed. If my listed number and the actual number of keepers underneath didn't add up, you should have caught it. If an owner's keepers and cuts don't add up to 30, you shouldn't be assuming absent players are a cut. But as I said, I'll throw Sipp back if the league deems that fair.

However, there is no way I ever would have cut Hanson, especially with my horrible SP.

11/3/2011 9:28 AM (edited)
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Posted by Jtpsops on 11/3/2011 9:28:00 AM (view original):

"having now 22 listed keepers"?

Check your lists. My post in that thread has said "22 keepers" since the beginning.  My I/R - retired - cuts haven't changed. If my listed number and the actual number of keepers underneath didn't add up, you should have caught it. If an owner's keepers and cuts don't add up to 30, you shouldn't be assuming absent players are a cut. But as I said, I'll throw Sipp back if the league deems that fair.

However, there is no way I ever would have cut Hanson, especially with my horrible SP.

OK...I think it is clear from the above post that Jtpsops continues to fail to realize that the maximum number of allowed keepers in the PCL is 20

this is my decision on this issue:
1. It apears clear that Jtp intended to keep Tommy Hanson - although Hanson was left off his original post of his keepers - so Hanson will be added to Jtp's keepers and I will repick for Kansas City's original selection of Tommy Hanson
2. since adding Tommy Hanson to Jtp's original list of keepers would give him 20 keepers, Brett Cecil and Tony Sipp will remain listed as available players for this draft since Jtp could not have kept more than 20 players
3. with the draft of Mike Moustakas, Jtp now has 21 players on his roster with 4 picks remaining in the regular draft
4. before the 2012 draft...optimistic...I will post rules clarifying the relationship between keeper lists and the availables list

to replace Kansas City's previous pick of Tommy Hanson, Kansas City selects Cameron Maybin (OF)

pmacuski sitemailed that he is now up
 
11/3/2011 10:01 AM (edited)
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You're right...I forgot about the 20 rule, so that's fair and I take responsibility for it. Cecil and Sipp are gone. But since that list was posted, it has said "22 keepers" at the top, and 21 guys were listed. So don't tell me Hanson was left off the original list. When you saw "22 keepers" though, as commish, it should have raised a red flag and made you take a closer look at the number of guys listed. They did not total 30 either way, since I can double-guarantee that neither Hanson, Cecil or Sipp was ever listed as cut.
11/3/2011 9:52 AM
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Milwaukee - Anthony Rizzo - 1B
11/3/2011 10:12 AM
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11/3/2011 10:19 AM
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11/3/2011 10:24 AM
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Still have some starting pitching I could part with in Derek Holland, John Lannan or Bud Norris.
11/3/2011 11:37 AM
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11/3/2011 1:01 PM
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proxy pick for mark....Chitown...Vance Worley (P)
11/3/2011 2:16 PM
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