Let's talk about white privilege... Topic



  Just do what I did. Be half white and half black. Get born in America but tell them you are African. Keep on lying and crying. Get free stuff that other people pay for. **** them. It's all about you. **** the country. **** them. It's all about you. It's all about me. I don't wanna hear about no cracker workin' all day to pay my way. You work for me now. You work for my friends and their idiot buddies. You work for education and the media and the union and the politician and whatever I tell you. You back on the plantation now boy. You do what I say. You work for what I say. You work for who I say. You do what I say. We goin' back to Africa. Back to the slave days. You hear me cracker?
5/19/2012 4:20 PM
Posted by raucous on 5/19/2012 2:35:00 PM (view original):
White Democrats are a bunch of tards.
Don't forget bout the Repubs and the Tea Party.
5/19/2012 4:32 PM
Posted by DougOut on 5/19/2012 2:47:00 PM (view original):
creepy indoor liberals with nothing better to do than start threads like this make my skin crawl
I keep forgetting about your reaction to truth...do something for that skin problem, ask Rush for advice.
5/19/2012 4:34 PM
Posted by jiml60 on 5/15/2012 12:57:00 PM (view original):
He nails it in this article.  If you are white and have any self-awareness at all, you will recognize that all of us white folks have had it quite easy in our lives, even if we are just scraping by or earning a comfortable income.  Otherwise, you are just deluding yourself that you somehow have earned everything you own on your own merits.

I was born and raised in a neighborhood where prejudice is rampant.  A neighborhood that borders on the line between middle and lower class.  Where a good portion of the kids I grew up with had parents who worked for the city, county or state government.  They went on to also become government employees, not because of what they know or learned but because of who they knew.  When the blacks and hispanics started to demand the same privileges, the hate that emanated from the mouths of whites was amazing. 

I have 3 close friends who are on the city payroll.  All things being equal, none of them would be working in the important positions they hold if they were not pushed ahead of other groups because of who they knew.  Plus their sense of entitlement is very putting off, they are the perfect examples of what Jensen is talking about in this article.
You're an *******.
5/19/2012 5:08 PM
Posted by jiml60 on 5/15/2012 12:40:00 PM (view original):
Since Swampy has discovered Robert Jensen, here is a good starting point on one of the topics that Jensen is very well versed in - white privilege.


Why White People Are Afraid

What do white people have to be afraid of in a world structured on white privilege? Their own fears.

It may seem self-indulgent to talk about the fears of white people in a white-supremacist society. After all, what do white people really have to be afraid of in a world structured on white privilege? It may be self-indulgent, but it's critical to understand because these fears are part of what keeps many white people from confronting ourselves and the system.

The first, and perhaps most crucial fear, is that of facing the fact that some of what we white people have is unearned. It's a truism that we don't really make it on our own; we all have plenty of help to achieve whatever we achieve. That means that some of what we have is the product of the work of others, distributed unevenly across society, over which we may have little or no control individually. No matter how hard we work or how smart we are, we all know -- when we are honest with ourselves -- that we did not get where we are by merit alone. And many white people are afraid of that fact.

A second fear is crasser: White people's fear of losing what we have -- literally the fear of losing things we own if at some point the economic, political, and social systems in which we live become more just and equitable. That fear is not completely irrational; if white privilege -- along with the other kinds of privilege many of us have living in the middle class and above in an imperialist country that dominates much of the rest of the world -- were to evaporate, the distribution of resources in the United States and in the world would change, and that would be a good thing. We would have less. That redistribution of wealth would be fairer and more just. But in a world in which people have become used to affluence and material comfort, that possibility can be scary.

A third fear involves a slightly different scenario -- a world in which non-white people might someday gain the kind of power over whites that whites have long monopolized. One hears this constantly in the conversation about immigration, the lingering fear that somehow "they" (meaning not just Mexican-Americans and Latinos more generally, but any non-white immigrants) are going to keep moving to this country and at some point become the majority demographically.

Even though whites likely can maintain a disproportionate share of wealth, those numbers will eventually translate into political, economic, and cultural power. And then what? Many whites fear that the result won't be a system that is more just, but a system in which white people become the minority and could be treated as whites have long treated non-whites. This is perhaps the deepest fear that lives in the heart of whiteness. It is not really a fear of non-white people. It's a fear of the depravity that lives in our own hearts: Are non-white people capable of doing to us the barbaric things we have done to them?
 

A final fear has probably always haunted white people but has become more powerful since the society has formally rejected overt racism: The fear of being seen, and seen-through, by non-white people. Virtually every white person I know, including white people fighting for racial justice and including myself, carries some level of racism in our minds and hearts and bodies. In our heads, we can pretend to eliminate it, but most of us know it is there. And because we are all supposed to be appropriately anti-racist, we carry that lingering racism with a new kind of fear: What if non-white people look at us and can see it? What if they can see through us? What if they can look past our anti-racist vocabulary and sense that we still don't really know how to treat them as equals? What if they know about us what we don't dare know about ourselves? What if they can see what we can't even voice?

I work in a large university with a stated commitment to racial justice. All of my faculty colleagues, even the most reactionary, have a stated commitment to racial justice. And yet the fear is palpable.

It is a fear I have struggled with, and I remember the first time I ever articulated that fear in public. I was on a panel with several other professors at the University of Texas discussing race and politics in the O.J. Simpson case.

Next to me was an African American professor. I was talking about media; he was talking about the culture's treatment of the sexuality of black men. As we talked, I paid attention to what was happening in me as I sat next to him. I felt uneasy. I had no reason to be uncomfortable around him, but I wasn't completely comfortable. During the question-and-answer period -- I don't remember what question sparked my comment -- I turned to him and said something like, "It's important to talk about what really goes on between black and white people in this country. For instance, why am I feeling afraid of you? I know I have no reason to be afraid, but I am. Why is that?"
 

My reaction wasn't a crude physical fear, not some remnant of being taught that black men are dangerous (though I have had such reactions to black men on the street in certain circumstances). Instead, I think it was that fear of being seen through by non-white people, especially when we are talking about race. In that particular moment, for a white academic on an O.J. panel, my fear was of being exposed as a fraud or some kind of closet racist.

Even if I thought I knew what I was talking about and was being appropriately anti-racist in my analysis, I was afraid that some lingering trace of racism would show through, and that my black colleague would identify it for all in the room to see. After I publicly recognized the fear, I think I started to let go of some of it. Like anything, it's a struggle. I can see ways in which I have made progress. I can see that in many situations I speak more freely and honestly as I let go of the fear. I make mistakes, but as I become less terrified of making mistakes I find that I can trust my instincts more and be more open to critique when my instincts are wrong.


Robert Jensen is a journalism professor at the University of Texas at Austin. He is the author of, most recently, The Heart of Whiteness: Confronting Race, Racism and White Privilege (City Lights Books), from which this essay is excerpted.
 




 


 





  I just read this thing. I had no idea what was going on or what you were talking about.

  I thought racists like you were dinosaurs. You are a total *******.

  I don't care what music you tend to like. I thought you were cool. You suck and you are a racist.

  Don't bother trying to make up.
5/19/2012 5:21 PM
Dougie, racist: Confirmed.
5/19/2012 5:42 PM
It's nice to know that you go off on rants in threads without reading, I thought you had a little more intelligence than that, but really not surprised.

You can't even read that article and give an honest rebuttal, you have to go off and call people names - very disappointing, at least swamp is smart enough to read what he is railing against, however wrong he may be.
5/19/2012 5:50 PM
Posted by DougOut on 5/19/2012 5:08:00 PM (view original):
Posted by jiml60 on 5/15/2012 12:57:00 PM (view original):
He nails it in this article.  If you are white and have any self-awareness at all, you will recognize that all of us white folks have had it quite easy in our lives, even if we are just scraping by or earning a comfortable income.  Otherwise, you are just deluding yourself that you somehow have earned everything you own on your own merits.

I was born and raised in a neighborhood where prejudice is rampant.  A neighborhood that borders on the line between middle and lower class.  Where a good portion of the kids I grew up with had parents who worked for the city, county or state government.  They went on to also become government employees, not because of what they know or learned but because of who they knew.  When the blacks and hispanics started to demand the same privileges, the hate that emanated from the mouths of whites was amazing. 

I have 3 close friends who are on the city payroll.  All things being equal, none of them would be working in the important positions they hold if they were not pushed ahead of other groups because of who they knew.  Plus their sense of entitlement is very putting off, they are the perfect examples of what Jensen is talking about in this article.
You're an *******.
This response is what I would expect from someone with a racist background and can't find it in himself to take a step back and ask why he has it better than others.

Thank you sir for proving my point.
5/19/2012 5:53 PM
Posted by antoncresten on 5/15/2012 2:18:00 PM (view original):
HOKA HOKA HEY HEY!

GIMMEE BACK MY LAND, PALEFACE!
Finally.
5/19/2012 6:10 PM
Well what also blows is doug quoted a huge post, taking up useless space, just to be a douche............anti-Kudos.
5/19/2012 6:12 PM
Posted by swamphawk22 on 5/19/2012 3:50:00 PM (view original):
Posted by jiml60 on 5/19/2012 2:09:00 PM (view original):
The truth hurts, buddy, especially when you can't accept it.

Why is always whitey crying over the perceived "race card", just goes to prove Jensen's points further.

if you can find a way to counter Jensen's observations without crying about racism or the race card, I'll accept it, but your posting history is borderline racist at the least.
I accept that Obama being elected does not mean there are no racists in America. What it does prove is when large nubers of Americans are in a room with no one looking they will choose the best man, regardless of race.

Defending against racism is very hard. People like Jensen have made anyone claiming not to be a racist suspect.

The proof of racism gets a little odd. Things like the voter id laws are branded as racist, even though they treat everyone the same.

The main reason I find his ideas flawed isnt based on my beliefs, they are based on the lack of evidence on his part. In order for his ideas to be true, Ameerica must be a racist nation. We are by far the most racially diverse major nation in the world.

Did you miss my response Jim?

5/19/2012 6:35 PM
You are being ignored! Now you can cry about it.
5/19/2012 8:15 PM
Posted by jclarkbaker on 5/15/2012 5:12:00 PM (view original):
www.cadillacpedia.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/obama_bike.jpg

www.ihatethemedia.com/wp-content/uploads/obama-bike.jpg

binsidetv.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/obama-pitch.jpg

And as to basketball, the sport they say he is good at, two things:

Sweatpants?

images.search.yahoo.com/search/images

And brick:

blogs.thescore.com/tbj/2012/04/09/video-barack-obama-bricks-a-bunch-of-threes/

You have to be racist not to like the guy in the pics above.  It's not because he sucks, is doing a bad job and is a *****.  Nope, it's because he's black.
5/19/2012 9:07 PM
5/20/2012 12:05 PM




Hey look! They still doin' birther ****!  I'M the One who said I was born in Kenya!

Kenya wrap your brain around that?
5/20/2012 1:14 PM
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