Posted by swamphawk22 on 7/3/2012 11:54:00 PM (view original):
3 Differences...

1 Supreme court Justices. Even with Obamcare Robeerts and Alito is clearly more LG than Kagen and Sotomayor.
2 Gay marriage. The people of 36 states are bing run over by Obama and the Feds.
3 Owing allegiance to the Tea PArty, as opposed to being at war with them,

Obama is very different than Bush or Romney. He is taking us down a dark and ugly path.

Not only will opposition to Romney hurt his chance of winning, but in the long run it will hurt Paul. How can he ever expect to win if his supporters show no honor in party politics?

1. Supreme Court justices have nothing to do with the candidates themselves.  
2. Up till about 2 months ago they were the same, I give it another couple months before Romney flip flops over to the pro-gay marriage (which I don't understand why the government has any say on who we can or cannot marry).
3. Romney owing allegiance to the Tea Party??  hahahahahhahahahahahahahhahahha-  thats pretty funny.  

What path is Obama taking us down that wasn't started many years ago?  

Because party politics is why our country to so messed up.  **** the party, vote the best candidate.  Period.  Its because of our party system that right wing nuts and left wing crazies exist.  If you care about this country, you shouldn't vote for party, if you do then you are to blame for our problems

I didnt invent the party system, and I dont really like it but it is the reality. A vote you dont make for Romney is a vote for Obama.

Romney wasnt given a push by the party, but he got to come to every debate and was given the same chance as all the rest.

Supreme court Justices are the one thing that is 100% about the candidate.

The Federal Government shouldnt have any opinion about gay marraige. Romeny supports the rights of the state to decide and will put the power of the federal government behind the states.

Romney needs the Tea Party to survive in office. Obama needs to oppose the Tea Party even if they say the sun will come up tomorrow.

How about socialized medicine? Never got through before. How about direct control over the policies of corporations. How about forcing his agenda on states and holding up federal funds if you dont want to build a light rail. And the only thing that Paul should like about Obama, foreign policy, He is just Bush the Sequel.

What would a push look like in your mind?  He was given support (breaking party rules) well before he had enough candidates, the party broke rules during the entire primary process, even before it was down to just Romney and Paul.  

www.youtube.com/watch

Yeah and Romney needs the support of Ron Paul supporters as well, but it doesn't mean that he has it.  Just because he needs the tea party doesnt mean that he has ties with them.  

Socialized medicine has been on the verge of coming in for years, and Obamacare is identical to Romneycare.    The federal government has been forcing their agendas on states for a 100 years, Obama is just following the example of those before him.   If you think that Obama/Bush have a similar foreign policy to Paul then you are, again, mistaken.  In fact, Obama and Romney, again are identical on this issue.  Don't pay attention to what they say, watch what they do.  

Swamp...Obamacare is the plan the Conservative Heritage Foundation proposed...or were you ignorant of that fact?

He doesnt have ties with the Tea Party but he will have to work with the Tea Party caucous.

I think Paul got the level of support he deserved for the amount of votes he got.

Shouldnt a Paul supporter see a huge systemic difference between a state doing something and the Federal Government doing something?

I like Paul and would vote for him without hesitation if he wins the nomination.

We need to go back to the time before Obama.

Posted by seamar_116 on 7/4/2012 3:31:00 AM (view original):
Swamp...Obamacare is the plan the Conservative Heritage Foundation proposed...or were you ignorant of that fact?

That's a fat *** lie. Heritage Foundation came up with some ideas. It was very much like Romney. And they figured it out. Years ago. It SUCKS! We figured it out. Years ago. IT SUCKS! Heritage figured it out. Everybody but you and Obama have figured it out. It doesn't work.

Heritage should be applauded as should the rest of the conservative movement, for experimenting and looking for workable solutions.

The difference between Heritage and the conservatives vs. the tired old school liberals is that you are reluctant and unable to change. You are locked into the ideas of a century past. Old Ideas for old people. You are held to account by your dirty and wicked politics. Why else would Charlie Rangel get re-elected?

So you guys are old fuddy-duddy's and one issue whores and payroll hacks with golden parachute union thugs and communists and fascists and drug addicts like yourself. And you hang your whole argument on an experiment created by Conservatives and since rejected.

And you forgot the role of the States. The people to whom the government is subservient.

The State is an experiment in freedom and success.

If one state fails in an effort, the others are alerted to that failure and can avoid it. This strengthens the whole federal system.

When the Feds override the States, the whole country is subject to failure.

I would rather a state fail in an effort and see her sisters come to aide and rescue than a Federal mandate that infects the whole body and cannot be retracted through either weakness or collusion.

And that is the horror of Big government. Fascism. Communism. Socialism. The people lose control. We are a limited government of the people, by the people, for the people.

There is no President or party or King or Title or person or military or police or group of people that shall subject another part of that population to rules that are not known and well written into some former agreement unless and until a clear majority agree.

That was the deal we made with ourselves centuries ago.

That is the very deal that is now being thrown into the trash.

Thanks for the assist there Doug.

A well written and logical post.

Clearly you are a raicst!