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Posted by jclarkbaker on 8/29/2012 10:43:00 AM (view original):
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Posted by jvford on 8/28/2012 7:32:00 PM (view original):
Increase taxes on the wealthiest and put more money in the hands of the people who spend.  Basic economics.
Funniest entry in quite a while.
If you think so.  But that likely means that you don't really understand economics.
Reach people don't spend.  They don't invest.  They put their money under their mattress and laugh at the little guy!

You're brilliant.
Please explain to me how investing drives the economy as fast as spending.
8/29/2012 11:34 AM
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Posted by jvford on 8/29/2012 11:33:00 AM (view original):
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Posted by jvford on 8/28/2012 7:32:00 PM (view original):
Increase taxes on the wealthiest and put more money in the hands of the people who spend.  Basic economics.
Funniest entry in quite a while.
If you think so.  But that likely means that you don't really understand economics.
You keep misspelling socialism.  Please don't forget about the part demonstrating how raising taxes creates more jobs somehow.
Ok, I'll try to keep this simple for you because it's really pretty complicated for someone that doesn't understand economics:

Take $1,000,000.00 from the wealthy.  Give it to the Upper Lower Class and Lower Middle class, who spend just about 100% of everything they get.  Now, do this on a larger scale and you have some pretty good economic activity and job creation, because small businesses create jobs when people buy their ****.....not when they get a tax break.
Thank you for laying this out for us - revealing.  So how much is going to be taken from the "wealthy" when this is done on a "larger scale" - and then how many in the  "upper lower class" and "lower middle class" are going to get the goodie bags?  Also, how many of the "middle middle class" are anticipated to decrease their income to make sure they qualify?
Who said it has to be in the form of goodie bags?  It can simply be tax cuts.  Do you know anyone that says "My tax bracket is too high, I need to find a lower paying job"?  

Come on, this is basic economics.
You do not even realize that almost half of wage earners do not pay fed income tax.  You cannot cut taxes for someone who doesn't ******* pay taxes.
Do you want to bet that you're wrong about this?  That's the problem with people that get all their info from talking points....no ability to think laterally.
Sure, I'll bet.  Because I'm right.  But go ahead and show me something that lumps in SS or SS and medicare into the definition of "fed income tax".  Because then I can laugh at you again.
8/29/2012 11:39 AM
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Posted by jvford on 8/29/2012 11:34:00 AM (view original):
Posted by jclarkbaker on 8/29/2012 10:43:00 AM (view original):
Posted by jvford on 8/28/2012 8:43:00 PM (view original):
Posted by jclarkbaker on 8/28/2012 8:37:00 PM (view original):
Posted by jvford on 8/28/2012 7:32:00 PM (view original):
Increase taxes on the wealthiest and put more money in the hands of the people who spend.  Basic economics.
Funniest entry in quite a while.
If you think so.  But that likely means that you don't really understand economics.
Reach people don't spend.  They don't invest.  They put their money under their mattress and laugh at the little guy!

You're brilliant.
Please explain to me how investing drives the economy as fast as spending.
So, is that an admission that rich people do spend money? 

Please, though, keep going.  Mention that magical multiplier effect, or some other form of fantastical liberal economic theory.
8/29/2012 11:40 AM
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Hey Dems, those attacks on Paul Ryan are working so well:

www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/wp/2012/08/29/why-the-gop-is-winning-the-battle-over-paul-ryan/
8/29/2012 11:41 AM
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Posted by jclarkbaker on 8/29/2012 11:40:00 AM (view original):
Posted by jvford on 8/29/2012 11:34:00 AM (view original):
Posted by jclarkbaker on 8/29/2012 10:43:00 AM (view original):
Posted by jvford on 8/28/2012 8:43:00 PM (view original):
Posted by jclarkbaker on 8/28/2012 8:37:00 PM (view original):
Posted by jvford on 8/28/2012 7:32:00 PM (view original):
Increase taxes on the wealthiest and put more money in the hands of the people who spend.  Basic economics.
Funniest entry in quite a while.
If you think so.  But that likely means that you don't really understand economics.
Reach people don't spend.  They don't invest.  They put their money under their mattress and laugh at the little guy!

You're brilliant.
Please explain to me how investing drives the economy as fast as spending.
So, is that an admission that rich people do spend money? 

Please, though, keep going.  Mention that magical multiplier effect, or some other form of fantastical liberal economic theory.
What are you talking about? Please explain to me how investing drives the economy as fast as spending.

And I was referring to all fed tax while you were trying to limit the discussion to income tax only. Because you realize that your argument falls apart when you become aware that taxation is more complicated then you can understand.
8/29/2012 1:58 PM
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Just because taxiation has been made so complicated by the left that Stephen Hawking cannot understand it does not mean that we cannot see that American business is being over taxed.

Investment is better than "Make Work" projects because the jobs are market driven, not being paid for by other people and sustainable.

8/29/2012 6:13 PM
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Exactly, you finally understand.  Jobs are market driven......so we need to increase the market to create jobs.....not increase the jobs to create market.  That's done by putting money in the hands of people that spend it.
8/29/2012 7:24 PM
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I spend it.
8/29/2012 8:51 PM
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And all over the place. 90 percent local, or small business elsewhere. Haven't been into a Walmart or target in forever. Only time I hit the mall is when the wife makes me go to Nordstrom(locally owned chain) to clothes shop. I eat in one chain, and one chain only cause its a local chain that happen to brew their own beer(the Ram)and shop pretty much at only one locally owned market. Most of our fruits/vegi's come from farmers markets or a produce locally owned chain(who also have the best beer selection in the immediate area).

I buy American whenever the possible though we just did buy a Volvo(wife's bucket list item).

I vacation 3-5 times a year with all but possibly one being domestic. Three of those are three day trips to local place(or Vegas). All money spent in smaller local economies. Disney World on Monday! Woooo! Taking my mom for her 60th!

We make100-110k a year depending on tips. Who knew you could make 50k plus bar tending! **** my economics degree.

No kids. Smartest decision ever. My car is paid for. 1000 miles on it the last 13 months. I fill up once a month.

I am the middle class. I stimulate the economy.
8/29/2012 9:08 PM
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Posted by jvford on 8/29/2012 7:24:00 PM (view original):
Exactly, you finally understand.  Jobs are market driven......so we need to increase the market to create jobs.....not increase the jobs to create market.  That's done by putting money in the hands of people that spend it.

Putting what money into who's hands?   Money taken by taxes, and given to GM, Solyndra, Finland, High-speed trains to nowhere, public unions?   How many miscarraiges does the government get before you need to switch targets?    How many free handouts can the government make before everyone still left in the country works for the government?
Then what?    A convenient world war is not likely to happen this time, but you can still hope for an alien invasion. 
My vote is to surrender to Canada.   If they are too wary to declare war, we can get the SEIU to provoke a border incident.

 

8/29/2012 9:43 PM
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Haha...Ann Romney tells Hispanic women to get over their biases.  Awesome. 
8/29/2012 9:47 PM
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We should be like Greece.  33% work for the government, 44% work for private sector, and  23% unemployment.  I guess the government needs to tax at 75% just to pay their employees.  Real smart.
8/29/2012 9:48 PM
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I thought we were like Greece...Euro-Socialist.
8/29/2012 9:50 PM
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Posted by slowmoe on 8/29/2012 9:43:00 PM (view original):
Posted by jvford on 8/29/2012 7:24:00 PM (view original):
Exactly, you finally understand.  Jobs are market driven......so we need to increase the market to create jobs.....not increase the jobs to create market.  That's done by putting money in the hands of people that spend it.

Putting what money into who's hands?   Money taken by taxes, and given to GM, Solyndra, Finland, High-speed trains to nowhere, public unions?   How many miscarraiges does the government get before you need to switch targets?    How many free handouts can the government make before everyone still left in the country works for the government?
Then what?    A convenient world war is not likely to happen this time, but you can still hope for an alien invasion. 
My vote is to surrender to Canada.   If they are too wary to declare war, we can get the SEIU to provoke a border incident.

 

Uh, people that spend it......lower and middle class people....because they spend just about 100% of whatever they get. Money right back into the economy.

Or you could give it all to The Taint.
8/29/2012 9:51 PM
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The Taint spends, true.    So it's either war with Canada, or give it all to The Taint.    I vote Taint.   With Canada a close 2nd.
8/29/2012 10:16 PM
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