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jvford
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My point is that if there's statistically no actual problem, why create one?
9/13/2012 5:45 PM
opie100
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Good point - elections in this country aren't close so who cares how much fraud there could be.
9/13/2012 5:50 PM
jvford
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So what are the voter fraud numbers and are they even close to the number of people who won't be able to vote with id laws?
9/13/2012 5:55 PM
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Posted by jvford on 9/13/2012 3:31:00 PM (view original):
How many cases of illegal voting have there actually been?

Is it anywhere near the 10% of Americans that don't have a picture id?

So what's more of a "big non-issue"?
1 There have been cases.

2 There could be more. We all saw the video of the guy being allowed to vote as Eric Holder. We all know the story of viter fraud involving ACORN and other groups like them. So if you can register false people, and there is no proof needed to vote why couldnt we have massive voter fraud. You lock your doors even if no one around you is being robbed.

And it is 10% of Adults.

And since only about 60% vote we ask if a person without id is voting.
9/13/2012 7:04 PM
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Posted by jvford on 9/13/2012 5:55:00 PM (view original):
So what are the voter fraud numbers and are they even close to the number of people who won't be able to vote with id laws?

No one cannot vote.

Almost everyone has a valid ID.

If you dont you can get a free one.

And if you dont have an id you can cast a provisional ballot and then if your id checks out they will count it.

This is a non issue. Everyone who can vote legally will be allowed to vote.

9/13/2012 7:11 PM
jvford
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Answer the question.
9/13/2012 8:05 PM
bagchucker
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that whole acorn thing was bullshit
9/13/2012 8:14 PM
genghisxcon
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That doesn't keep swamp from repeating it.
9/13/2012 8:32 PM
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Posted by jvford on 9/13/2012 5:45:00 PM (view original):
My point is that if there's statistically no actual problem, why create one?
The only problem is the one created by the people who claim it's voter suppression.  Voter ID laws have overwhelming support.
9/13/2012 8:49 PM
jvford
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You're naive. Or to use a quote from you "intellectually dishonest".
9/13/2012 9:13 PM
jclarkbaker
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Posted by jvford on 9/13/2012 9:13:00 PM (view original):
You're naive. Or to use a quote from you "intellectually dishonest".
What am I naive about?  Dems can't point to one example of voter suppression.  Voter ID laws have been upheld by multiple courts.  And poll upon poll upon poll show overwhelming support for the laws.
9/13/2012 9:20 PM
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Posted by jvford on 9/13/2012 5:55:00 PM (view original):
So what are the voter fraud numbers and are they even close to the number of people who won't be able to vote with id laws?
Vote difference in Florida in 2000 election: 537
Voters who cannot vote with voter ID laws: 0
Fraudulent votes in 2000 election >0

What do I win?
9/13/2012 9:22 PM
jclarkbaker
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FLA in 2000 would not have been close if the MSM did not call it for Gore an hour before the polls closed on the panhandle.
9/13/2012 9:32 PM
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Posted by opie100 on 9/13/2012 9:22:00 PM (view original):
Posted by jvford on 9/13/2012 5:55:00 PM (view original):
So what are the voter fraud numbers and are they even close to the number of people who won't be able to vote with id laws?
Vote difference in Florida in 2000 election: 537
Voters who cannot vote with voter ID laws: 0
Fraudulent votes in 2000 election >0

What do I win?
Potential voters who are unable to vote with photo id laws >>>> fraudulent votes

Still waiting on some actual fraudulent voter numbers from one of you.
9/13/2012 9:32 PM
jvford
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Posted by jclarkbaker on 9/13/2012 9:20:00 PM (view original):
Posted by jvford on 9/13/2012 9:13:00 PM (view original):
You're naive. Or to use a quote from you "intellectually dishonest".
What am I naive about?  Dems can't point to one example of voter suppression.  Voter ID laws have been upheld by multiple courts.  And poll upon poll upon poll show overwhelming support for the laws.
Are you pulling the "you can't prove I'm trying to **** you over".

Voter photo id laws are only legally on the books in a few states (I think 5 or 6). US courts have shot some of them down, including Texas' law.

9/13/2012 9:40 PM
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