Kasich wasn't going anywhere anyway. He doesn't have the personality.

im starting to think the country needs an enema.

Speaking of Kasich...he is the most qualified. He consistently polls best versus Hillary. Today's RCP head to head Kasich +7.4%

I don't pay attention to head to head...things change when it comes down to 2 and people on the fence start to pick sides.

Posted by dino27 on 3/3/2016 8:01:00 PM (view original):
i know...but the dnc needs to be taught a lesson. about democracy.

Ironically, the DNC is trying to teach its constituency a lesson about the realities of democracy. The lesson is that a small subset of the population - like the one that votes in a single-part primary - can't win a larger election without support. The nomination process is not inherently democratic. Both parties do rely on an elective system, but as I'm sure you're aware, nothing codified requires this of them. Most 3rd parties have de facto nomination processes. The only part that is necessarily democratic in nature is the general election. The existence of superdelegates allows party leadership to correct for bias in the subset of voters in the primary if they feel it's necessary to do so.

If they're really honest with themselves, I think most of his supporters recognize that Bernie is not a strong candidate in a general election. Of course, right now, neither is Hillary. Politically she's a better candidate, but with so many personal issues at the moment it's a rough road for either of them. But you see the point. Bernie has self-identified as a socialist. That's a very bad word for not only Republicans but also the independents and moderate Democrats. It's a real problem in a general election, but not as much in a primary where a small percentage of party membership, typically concentrated toward the extreme end, shows up at the polls.

we are talking about a rigged election...the superdelegates are not earned..they can defeat the will of the people..not democratic...that's the only point that needs to be discussed..even Pelosi agrees...rationalizations are wrong.

Posted by dino27 on 3/4/2016 8:53:00 AM (view original):
we are talking about a rigged election...the superdelegates are not earned..they can defeat the will of the people..not democratic...that's the only point that needs to be discussed..even Pelosi agrees...rationalizations are wrong.

Again, you're missing the point. It's NOT an election. It's a nomination process. It can be run however the party wants. Again, the smaller parties don't even bother polling their membership, they just pick somebody. Jill Stein is the 2016 Green candidate largely because she was the 2012 candidate.

Dino, you don't have a listed age range, so I don't know how old you are. You seemed, based on some of your TV, movie, and music preferences, like you might be old enough to remember the pre-primary system. Presidential primaries based on delegates bound by popular vote are basically a 45 year old phenomenon - it arose following the Humphrey nomination in 1968, so the first presidential election cycle in which the parties nominated candidates with delegates largely determined by the voting populace was in 1972. For the majority of US history presidential nominees were determined in Congressional caucuses by the members of Congress associated with the party.

i go back to teddy roosevelt...i dont agree with you.

About what? The statement that delegates weren't tied to a popular vote until 1972 is a historical fact, not an opinion...

either we have a democracy or we dont have a democracy.

A) We don't have a democracy, we have a republic.
B) So under your conception of what qualifies as a Democratic Republic, the United States was not one prior to 1972?

The INCREDIBLY important distinction here is that nobody is being chosen for any public office in the primaries.

either we have democratically elected nominees in the 2 major parties or we do not have democratically elected nominees in the 2 major parties - ALICE COOPER