1) All arms for a given CS% are the same.  Despite what you may read a potential basestealer is just as likely to run on '64 Roseboro as he is on '05 Y. Molina.
2) A+ arms are the most valuable arms defensively.  Taking an "A" arm to catch more basestealers does not save you runs on average.  (Although it may be a better value).
3) An average arm in an OL is B+ to A-.
4) The best arms in the sim (60% CS) saves  ~0.008 runs per inning above an average arm.
5) On average (for a 400PA player) this equates to 6 to 7 runs over his season or about 10 hits in a season.

So, question for you: I like to use someone like Heine Peitz as my catcher - he's normally a 3B I think. He has an A+ catcher's arm, but if you look at his actual stats, they show SBA = 0 and CS = 0. How does this translate into a sim CS performance?

Posted by bjschumacher on 4/7/2011 7:33:00 AM (view original):
So, question for you: I like to use someone like Heine Peitz as my catcher - he's normally a 3B I think. He has an A+ catcher's arm, but if you look at his actual stats, they show SBA = 0 and CS = 0. How does this translate into a sim CS performance?

I actually don't know. I assume it's on the low range of A+ but there is no way I know of to see the actual CS% that he's assigned if C isn't his primary position

Posted by bjschumacher on 4/7/2011 7:33:00 AM (view original):
So, question for you: I like to use someone like Heine Peitz as my catcher - he's normally a 3B I think. He has an A+ catcher's arm, but if you look at his actual stats, they show SBA = 0 and CS = 0. How does this translate into a sim CS performance?

Heine Peitz is listed in the database as 41% CS.  In the sim, his performance averages 35% (which is exactly what I expected, the same as '23 Bassler).  I have no idea how they figure he has a 41% arm, but I suspect it has to do with being a 3B-man.

Posted by jfranco77 on 4/7/2011 2:21:00 PM (view original):

Posted by bjschumacher on 4/7/2011 7:33:00 AM (view original):
So, question for you: I like to use someone like Heine Peitz as my catcher - he's normally a 3B I think. He has an A+ catcher's arm, but if you look at his actual stats, they show SBA = 0 and CS = 0. How does this translate into a sim CS performance?

I actually don't know. I assume it's on the low range of A+ but there is no way I know of to see the actual CS% that he's assigned if C isn't his primary position

Actually you can see the assigned number-- just search by CS%.

I use Peitz on virtually all of my teams becuase he's such a good deal and will hit .300 or more.

think of the '65 Campaneris who used to be used frequently as a starting catcher (92 speed, 51-19 sb/cs, .877 contact rate, .299 hit rate with AVG# .281 all for ~$4,000,000 or about $6450 $/PA). I haven't used him in awhile, nor do I see him as often as I once did. he has an A+ arm showing a 39 CS%.

Oddly, in real life he played one inning at catcher in 1965. The only guy to try and steal on Campy was successful so his real life cs% was
-0-.... you would think he'd have a D- arm. Through the years I seem to recall some knowledgable posters indicate Campy's A+ arm was an error in the SIM data base and would be corrected. Others thought that since he was a SS, the programmers gave him the benefit of having a strong throwing arm. In any event, Campy's historical performance shows he tosses out would be basestealers at 30% clip..

On September 8, 1965, as part of a special promotion featuring the popular young player, Campaneris became the first player to play every position in a major league game.

Only reason he caught at all, was for that event.

Posted by uncleal on 4/8/2011 12:50:00 PM (view original):
On September 8, 1965, as part of a special promotion featuring the popular young player, Campaneris became the first player to play every position in a major league game.

Only reason he caught at all, was for that event.

Interesting.  Sounds a lot like Oquendo in '88 (?).  Although Oquendo was ligitamately the Cardinal's 3rd or 4th string catcher at the time. 

4 players have achieved this feat in MLB:
Bert Campaneris, 9-8-1965
Cesar Tovar, 9-22-1968
Scott Sheldon, 9-6-2000
Shane Halter, 10-1-2000

Posted by uncleal on 4/8/2011 7:11:00 PM (view original):
4 players have achieved this feat in MLB:
Bert Campaneris, 9-8-1965
Cesar Tovar, 9-22-1968
Scott Sheldon, 9-6-2000
Shane Halter, 10-1-2000

Oquendo played every position that season, but not in a single game.  Like I worte before, it was much more ligitimate than the others who have done it since 1900 or so since Oquendo was ligitamately the best back up at 2B, 3B, SS, LF and RF; he was the 3rd or 4th string at C, 1B and CF; and he did pitch (shuting down the Brave for 3 innings for taking a loss) that year.